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Do You Want To Scare A Baby Boomer?
TEC ^ | 1-17-2013 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 01/17/2013 9:02:32 PM PST by blam

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"No need to worry the government will take our guns and then the young will kill all the old folks."

1 posted on 01/17/2013 9:02:35 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Soylent Green is Old People!


2 posted on 01/17/2013 9:05:56 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: blam

Didn’t these same people pay into SS for the last 40 years? What’s the problem? SS is a Ponzi scheme scam and it might well sink us.


3 posted on 01/17/2013 9:05:58 PM PST by youngidiot (God help us.)
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To: blam

Obamacare has a solution for this problem


4 posted on 01/17/2013 9:09:11 PM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: blam
Could you live on about 300 dollars a week?

I get by on less than that.

I could reduce that further if the local shakedown/protection racket would reduce the property taxes.

/johnny

5 posted on 01/17/2013 9:09:11 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Travis McGee

I is old people, enjoy me with milk.


6 posted on 01/17/2013 9:09:29 PM PST by doc1019
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To: blam

Honey, I’m pregnant!


7 posted on 01/17/2013 9:13:43 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: blam
thank goodness liberals like my oldest brother and sister asre safely receiving all their SS money....especially my sis, who I love, because she's also drawing a nice fat NYS pension from age 56 on up....

we don't have nearly enough saved...we've had two weddings and a house payment and two colleges to help pay for...

I want my Ss...I'll work some piddly job for the extra money....guess I'll be forced to.

8 posted on 01/17/2013 9:14:16 PM PST by cherry
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’d be happy to get that much SS, mine is around half
that.


9 posted on 01/17/2013 9:17:12 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: blam

Looks like most of these problems would disappear if we could re-educate people that “retirement” is an old fashioned concept, like the Constitution or “Rule of Law”. Work ‘till you die. It’s Patriotic! Like paying taxes!


10 posted on 01/17/2013 9:20:06 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: blam

I just want to point out that you can die within 8 hours in Death Valley, apparently without suffering to much. You won’t really even notice the heat, because there is often a nice breeze blowing through there.


11 posted on 01/17/2013 9:20:19 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: blam

12 posted on 01/17/2013 9:22:25 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That was exactly the point, by the way. From Henry George’s Single Tax to the income tax to counterfeiting (the Fed) to the death tax, gubmint has, especially since the progressive era, deliberately attempted to make it impossible for you to support yourself. Nevermind their reasons, which I never understand anyway. They don’t like “unearned income,” they wanna head off plutocrats from stealing democracy, poverty in the midst of plenty is morally anathematic, we gotta spread the wealth around, blah, blah, blah. Mostly it’s because they live to spend money, and you can only find it where it is.

The result is very little culture and sheeplike people. But, hey, at least we have McDonalds and gang wars.


13 posted on 01/17/2013 9:22:25 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: cherry

Suckling on the government teat is not a liberal vs conservative issue. There are plenty of conservatives, many on this forum, that rail against it on one hand and enjoy the fruits of it on the other.


14 posted on 01/17/2013 9:23:43 PM PST by Last of the Mohicans
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To: tet68
I'm not so ancient as to qualify for SS. And I don't expect it will be there when I am.

I'm pretending that there isn't any safety net, and that I'm on my own until Jesus takes me to his bosom.

/johnny

15 posted on 01/17/2013 9:27:45 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: blam

What is so surprising about this data. The country celebrates debt and interest payments and the baby boom has no concept of hard times.

Get yourself out of debt, stop paying interest and watch your savings grow quickly.

Spend tomorrows money today and you will have no money tomorrow.


16 posted on 01/17/2013 9:28:48 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: blam
Old people never die, they just get in the way.

the young will kill all the old folks.. well yes that too when video games get boring.

Not to worry..

The 1960s Marxist-Alinsky campus radical, spoiled brats and their ideological issue (the Establishment) can be gruff but honest when it comes to the old and useless eaters. The progressives' future rests on finding the right solution.

President Obama: At that age just a pill might be better than expensive cures.

Former Senate Majority Leader Democrat Tom Daschle has praised Europeans for being more willing to accept "hopeless diagnoses" and "forgo experimental treatments," and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.

Former Governor of Colorado Democrat Richard Lamm: Seriously ill old people have a duty to die and get out of the way.

and then there's the Democrats' Pelosi..

Palliative End of Life Optimum Serenity Initiative (PELOSI).

Obamacare.

17 posted on 01/17/2013 9:28:53 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: KTM rider

“Obamacare has a solution for this problem.”

Obamacare IS a solution for this problem.

But there is certainly a point of diminishing returns for health care. Where that point will be drawn AND BY WHOM(!), I have no idea.


18 posted on 01/17/2013 9:29:38 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: blam

as long as Obamacare covers Viagra, they’ll be happy...


19 posted on 01/17/2013 9:36:39 PM PST by bigbob
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To: youngidiot

Didn’t these people ignore this for the last 40 years.....? Fruits of the 60’s generation and chickens coming home to roost? What should have been saved was instead used to grow a large parasitic population.


20 posted on 01/17/2013 9:36:49 PM PST by wrencher
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To: blam

For most of history, several generations lived together. The younger generation is not going to like it, but Mom and Dad will be arriving soon with their luggage.


21 posted on 01/17/2013 9:38:38 PM PST by marsh2
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To: blam

Don’t trust anyone under 48, I think that used to be a slogan.


22 posted on 01/17/2013 9:42:19 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: The Antiyuppie

Civil war is a solution for this problem..... That’s the Obama plan.


23 posted on 01/17/2013 9:42:57 PM PST by wrencher
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To: blam
"A retirement crisis of extraordinary magnitude."


24 posted on 01/17/2013 9:45:26 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: blam

“No one ever said life would fair, son”
—Everybody when I was a kid


25 posted on 01/17/2013 9:47:30 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: youngidiot; blam; Tublecane; no-to-illegals; SunkenCiv; All

I have been doing some research on the SS issue. It seems that in 1983 (Reagan admin), Rs and Ds got together to try to save Social Security. One thing they agreed on was that the salary cap at 90% was reasonable. However, the cap apparently has been increased at the cost of living rate, while incomes at the upper levels have been increasing much faster. Thus since some time in the 1990s the cap has drifted down to hover around 85%. I think last year it was even as low as 82%. All we need to do is insist that Congress or whoever sets the cap return to the bipartisan cap rate of 90%, then to make up for the 15 years when it was much lower, it should be increased by 1/2 or 1% to the 95% level and held there until SS is solvent again. Since by that time the baby boom elderly bulge will have gone by, then it could be lowered back to the 90% level.

Also in 1983 it was agreed that for the first time SS income should be taxed (whatever happened to no tax Republican ideals). A complex calculation formula was developed that included a deduction for $25,000 for single people, and $32,000 for married couples. Unfortunately, this figure was NOT indexed, so now we have a problem similar to the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT). If this deduction had been indexed, the single rate would be over $57,000, and the married rate over $74,000. I would love to marry the fine man I have met since my husband died 6 years ago, but we really cannot afford it at the 1983 rate. We could if Congress would index that deduction to today’s value and index it permanently as they apparently have done with the AMT. It is ironic to think that widows and widowers are feeling compelled economically to “live in sin” by this oversight.


26 posted on 01/17/2013 9:49:05 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: BradyLS

...or BE fair, either!


27 posted on 01/17/2013 9:49:15 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Maybe They will mandate spiking the food in “the home” with Viagra, be a lot of natural causes going around.
28 posted on 01/17/2013 9:50:01 PM PST by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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To: blam
RE :”So what do you think? Do you believe that there is a solution to our retirement crisis? Do you think that we can actually keep all of the promises that we have made to the Baby Boomers?”

You post some entertaining stuff.

Promises? Who made those?
Some guy dishing out others money now long retired?

Sadly Reagan joined in on this scam but at the time 30 years ago it looked workable.

29 posted on 01/17/2013 9:50:55 PM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: marsh2

And here I thought a significant number of the ‘Peter Pan’ generation still lived with Mom and Dad.


30 posted on 01/17/2013 9:56:08 PM PST by GreyHoundSailor
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To: marsh2
Mom and Dad will be arriving soon with their luggage.

Sorry. No room for parking coffins in the front yard. I'm an orphan.

And I'll be dashed if I move in with my kids. After I got hurt bad in 2009, I did have to stay with someone, and that lasted for about a week until I could actually get out of bed by myself in about a half hour.

/johnny

31 posted on 01/17/2013 10:01:08 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: blam

How did the media succeed in turning a continuous, permanent, uninterrupted program from the 1930s, into a “boomer” program.

One would think that all the old people used to do was defeat Nazis, and that the boomers created SS when they were children and teenagers in the 1960s, and starting the Vietnam war.


32 posted on 01/17/2013 10:06:57 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: gunsequalfreedom; blam
the baby boom has no concept of hard times.

You're fos.

What they pay every month or two for a home mortgage, was the greatest generations *full* price for their brand new homes.

Think about that for a second.

Dad said, gimme a bucks worth of regular and people jumped up to check his oil and clean his windshield...And spoke English...

The great generation had very secure jobs, worked 25 years or so and retired....on good pensions with good medical benefits....The private sector boomers have none of that. zip...

That great generation bought brand new homes, had secure jobs, and great medical benefits all on ONE income...one income....lol

Try that in today's America...You'd last about 2 weeks.

It's my opinion that "Great generation" had it made in the shade, and went thorough some of the best times in U.S. history...This isn't even debatable.

My folks bought a brand new home for what many boomers pay every two months in their freaking mortgage...And *both* are force to work into their 60s, 70s and beyond, as they work harder for less money each year...

Ya think things have become better and better each year for boomers in the past 25 years? Think again slick.

33 posted on 01/17/2013 10:07:12 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

agreed, my three adult kids and husbands struggle like we never did.


34 posted on 01/17/2013 10:17:32 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: marsh2

The only way I could live with my DIL is if I’m suffering from Alzheimer’s.

A factor I’ve not seen discussed is that people have waited longer to start their families than our generation did. By the time we were 40, our kids were grown and almost through college or had jobs and were out of the house. We were entering our peak earning time and so had at least 20 years to stash money for retirement. Our kids, on the other hand, didn’t even start their families until they were 40 and will be pushing 60 or older when their kids’ expenses start eating up every penny of their income with nothing going into savings for their soon-to-be retirement age.


37 posted on 01/17/2013 10:21:33 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: KTM rider

> Obamacare has a solution for this problem

Take your shot, SIR! Yes it IS mandatory when reach retirement age. Here’s the address. Why yes it is secluded but you can find it easily. It’s located right next to the crematorium...: )


38 posted on 01/17/2013 10:21:33 PM PST by jsanders2001
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“So what do you think? Do you believe that there is a solution to our retirement crisis? Do you think that we can actually keep all of the promises that we have made to the Baby Boomers?”

What promise did I make to baby boomers? Did anybody ask me whether I wanted to be paying social security taxes? No?

Then it’s not a promise. What this is - is theft. Is there a way to steal enough money? Absolutely.


39 posted on 01/17/2013 10:27:33 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: cherry

> we don’t have nearly enough saved...we’ve had two weddings and a house payment and two colleges to help pay for...

I want my Ss...I’ll work some piddly job for the extra money....guess I’ll be forced to.

I hear ya. I’ve been talking-to a LOT of people that have told me their savings is bleeding trying to keep up with the increased cost of everything (btw - I don’t believe those Obama administration released inflation figures; my own personal experience and others tells me its skewed and full of crap). I don’t think you’ll be alone on the poor farm. I’ll be there right along beside you...as will a lot of others


40 posted on 01/17/2013 10:28:59 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: marsh2
The younger generation is not going to like it, but Mom and Dad will be arriving soon with their luggage.

The way it is going now, it will be the younger generation never packing their luggage and leaving Mom and Dad.

41 posted on 01/17/2013 10:29:05 PM PST by etcb
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To: ansel12

If it’s not a boomer program, why did the boomers insist on keeping it? You’ve had 24 years of boomer presidents to get rid of it.


42 posted on 01/17/2013 10:30:53 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: cajungirl
Absolutely...Some of these people just burp up comments without thought.

Compared to my folks generation, most boomers have been left with a derailed country, lost jobs, lost homes, lost medical insurance, bankrupt retirement plans, lost investments, lawless borders and a corrupt government...Then their told government looted Social Security, it's bankrupt and they might have to work till they drop dead....

My mom would have never been able to deal with what millions are dealing with today...She was one of the millions of stay at home moms, who never had to work a day in her life outside the home..She and much of her generation went though the late 40s, 50s, 60s and 70s living pretty damn easy...I'm not hold that against her, I'm just telling it like it is..

43 posted on 01/17/2013 10:32:15 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: gleeaikin

Don’t really sympathize. Imagine you’re trying to get married for the FIRST time but you’re shelling out SS Tax.

I’m sorry you don’t love your partner enough to sacrifice for them.


44 posted on 01/17/2013 10:33:10 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: blam
Could you live on about 300 dollars a week?

One of the best moves I ever made was joining the Air National Guard when my active duty time was up. An extra $2000 a month and full use of any military base amenity for life. We buy most of our food at the commissary at a 40 percent savings over the civilian economy. And I can fly space A for nothing. Yeah, best move I ever made.

45 posted on 01/17/2013 10:35:33 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

A-Men. A-Men.

I get by on half that!

Boomers have never known hard time - good thing they are teaching us!


46 posted on 01/17/2013 10:35:33 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

What a goofy post.

Boomers seem to be the generation that is trying to fix it, challenging it, yet again, people like you associate it as a “boomer” program.


47 posted on 01/17/2013 10:37:17 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: dragnet2

“millions of stay at home moms, who never had to work a day in her life outside the home”

That sums up the boomer perspective perfectly. Yeah, stay at home moms contribute nothing.


48 posted on 01/17/2013 10:37:23 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: ansel12

“Boomers seem to be the generation that is trying to fix it, challenging it, yet again, people like you associate it as a “boomer” program.”

Right. When did Clinton fix it? When did Bush fix it? When did Obama ‘fix’ it?

You’ve had 24 years already since 1992 to fix it. What, are you going to get it right now?

It is a boomer program - you’ve had your chance to fix it and you all failed.


49 posted on 01/17/2013 10:38:51 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

I’ve read your posts...Your full of cheet.


50 posted on 01/17/2013 10:42:42 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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