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Orders Issued to Seize Citizen's Guns (My title - flashback April 18, 1775)
Teaching American History ^ | April 18, 1775 | General Thomas Gage

Posted on 01/18/2013 4:21:37 AM PST by abb

Orders from General Thomas Gage to Lieut. Colonel Smith, 10th Regiment ’Foot

General Thomas Gage April 18, 1775 Boston, Massachusetts

Lieut. Colonel Smith, 10th Regiment ’Foot,

Sir,

Having received intelligence, that a quantity of Ammunition, Provisions, Artillery, Tents and small Arms, have been collected at Concord, for the Avowed Purpose of raising and supporting a Rebellion against His Majesty, you will March with a Corps of Grenadiers and Light Infantry, put under your Command, with the utmost expedition and Secrecy to Concord, where you will seize and distroy all Artillery, Ammunition, Provisions, Tents, Small Arms, and all Military Stores whatever. But you will take care that the Soldiers do not plunder the Inhabitants, or hurt private property.

You have a Draught of Concord, on which is marked the Houses, Barns, &c, which contain the above military Stores. You will order a Trunion to be knocked off each Gun, but if its found impracticable on any, they must be spiked, and the Carriages destroyed. The Powder and flower must be shook out of the Barrels into the River, the Tents burnt, Pork or Beef destroyed in the best way you can devise. And the Men may put Balls of lead in their pockets, throwing them by degrees into Ponds, Ditches &c., but no Quantity together, so that they may be recovered afterwards. If you meet any Brass Artillery, you will order their muzzles to be beat in so as to render them useless.

You will observe by the Draught that it will be necessary to secure the two Bridges as soon as possible, you will therefore Order a party of the best Marchers, to go on with expedition for the purpose.

A small party of Horseback is ordered out to stop all advice of your March getting to Concord before you, and a small number of Artillery go out in Chaises to wait for you on the road, with Sledge Hammers, Spikes, &c.

You will open your business and return with the Troops, as soon as possible, with I must leave to your own Judgment and Discretion.

I am, Sir, Your most obedient humble servant Thos. Gage.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1775; banglist; govtabuse; guncontrol; guns; kinggeorge; lexington; secondamendment; tyranny; youwillnotdisarmus
A little historical perspective on the last time Government tried to seize the citizen's arms.
1 posted on 01/18/2013 4:22:01 AM PST by abb
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To: abb

This time, it could plant seeds for an angry blowback which will explode in a second civil war or revolt.


2 posted on 01/18/2013 4:25:13 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: abb

How’d that work out for him?


3 posted on 01/18/2013 4:28:48 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

“No knock,warrant-less swat raid goes bad. Film at eleven.”


4 posted on 01/18/2013 4:33:49 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: muir_redwoods

Welll ... he DID have help to begin this march from John Boener ... I mean, John Adams


5 posted on 01/18/2013 4:36:38 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: abb

One April morning...


6 posted on 01/18/2013 4:38:27 AM PST by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: abb
To be precise (not criticizing, but the distinction is important) that was to seize subjects' guns. We have been citizens since that successful rebellion against tyranny gave us legal rights to match our God-given human rights. January 20, 2009 was a terrible day that set us back on the path to once again becoming subjects of a tyrant, at the mercy of that dictator's whims. This coming Monday marks the commencement of round two of the destruction of that first great experiment in freedom. I hope and pray that freedom will rise again somewhere if we fail here.
7 posted on 01/18/2013 4:45:51 AM PST by Pollster1
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To: Pollster1

Distinction noted. But our forefathers did see themselves as citizens, rather than subjects, I suggest. If they had believed they were subjects, and behaved accordingly, they never would have summoned up the courage to do what they did.


8 posted on 01/18/2013 4:52:20 AM PST by abb
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To: abb

The worshipful adoration that so many on the far left show toward Obama suggests to me that they no longer see any value in the title “citizens” and are ready to become subjects again, so long as those they envy are reduced to the same level.


9 posted on 01/18/2013 4:56:04 AM PST by Pollster1
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To: Pollster1

Modern-day Loyalists, perhaps?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalist_%28American_Revolution%29


10 posted on 01/18/2013 4:59:48 AM PST by abb
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To: abb
DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH MY TENT! OR MY BARBEQUE! BECAUSE IF YOU DO, THE OTHER THINGS ON YOUR SHOPPING LIST WILL RENDER YOU UNABLE TO PROCEED. EVER.
11 posted on 01/18/2013 5:05:05 AM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: abb
This time, many of the Grenadiers and Light Infantry will be on our side as they also took an Oath to defend the Constitution, not a Marxist Mooslim Kenyan Steaming Pantload.
12 posted on 01/18/2013 5:07:16 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: abb

Why is it that dictators always impose healthcare reform, gun control and then citizen roundups?


13 posted on 01/18/2013 5:08:09 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Children, pets, and slaves get taken care of. Free Men take care of themselves.)
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To: abb

Doesn’t take much to have an identical situation right now, such as the FBI getting a tip from internet forums that a gathering of 2A supporters will be at various storage facilities near Washington DC.

And we know just how much drooling occurs from the Homeland security and FBI techies whenever they chance upon internet chatter that by “their” definition is acts of sedition.

Give them nothing or give them a nationwide snipe hunt, they made their wrong choice to obey illegal orders from a Presidency that is destroying our country.
It would have been so much better if they just realize who the real enemy is and took corrective actions, but no they must continue to be Americas modern day version of the Redcoat Army.


14 posted on 01/18/2013 5:13:32 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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To: Pollster1
January 20, 2009 was a terrible day that set us back on the path to once again becoming subjects of a tyrant, at the mercy of that dictator's whims.

You got that right. And there is no shortage of modern day redcoats (wearing black or blue uniforms saying "FBI", "ATF," "POLICE," "SHERIFF'S DEPT" etc.) on them to enforce the tyrant's whims.

This is how freedom is lost not all at once, but incrementally. A magazine limit here a gun ban there, a tax increase elsewhere, and before you know it you're a slave of the government.

15 posted on 01/18/2013 5:19:58 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Feckless
This time, many of the Grenadiers and Light Infantry will be on our side as they also took an Oath to defend the Constitution

Don't count on it. History shows otherwise.

16 posted on 01/18/2013 5:22:05 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: abb
that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom, and that government of the people, by the people, for the people shall not perish from the earth."

To Mr. Morgan, Panetta, McCrystal etal:

Why do I need an AR-15?

As citizens of the United States of America we pledge are lives, fortunes, and sacred honor to secure the unalienable rights of our fellow citizens. We can delegate the authority to carry out those tasks to both the police forces and the military, but we cannot delegate the responsibility.

17 posted on 01/18/2013 5:23:06 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: from occupied ga
That history occur ed in countries and cultures with hundreds of years of blind obedience bred into the populations. Our soldiers are taught from day one: Do not obey illegal orders. That, and Americans’ sense of duty (strongest in our military) should provide any tin pot dictator quite a surprise.
18 posted on 01/18/2013 5:29:44 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Feckless
That history occur ed in countries and cultures with hundreds of years of blind obedience bred into the populations.

The same mistake that millions, now dead, made thinking "It can't happen here, we're different."

This isn't based on culture, but on basic human nature. Human nature is the same here as it was in Soviet Russia, China, Cambodia, Nazi Germany, Turkey, etc. And if you think that the populations of NY, NJ, MA, CT, MD, IL, etc. don't have the vast majority who will support the tyrant, you're making another mistake. I reiterate history does not agree with you.

19 posted on 01/18/2013 5:38:20 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
I hope you're wrong and as to the states you listed - don't know, don't care. Here in Texas we have a "history" of not taking crap lying down.

I know that when I was in uniform, either as a E1 or E8 I would not fire on American citizens.

20 posted on 01/18/2013 5:46:00 AM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: Feckless
I hope you're wrong

Me too - I would love to be wrong on this, but I fear that I am not.

E1 or E8 I would not fire on American citizens.

That was then this is now. Besides the police and various federal gestapos will be the sharp end here, and they have never to my knowledge refused an order to fire on american citizens about guns - I offer Waco and Ruby Ridge as examples. To the best of my knowledge there has never been a reported incident where local or federal jackboots ever refused an order to enforce a gun law.

21 posted on 01/18/2013 5:52:00 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: abb

Thank you for posting the actual text of the order to get the Colonists’ weaponry. it is the first time I have seen it, and am struck by its completeness as a military order.

The British could scarcely comprehend how their world and how history would change the very next day.

History turns on small events.

The men who fought the British and those who gave their lives the very next day are owed a tremendous debt by us.

That is why tyranny as to fought, at all levels, and at all costs.


22 posted on 01/18/2013 5:58:24 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: BuffaloJack

“Why is it that dictators always impose healthcare reform, gun control and then citizen roundups?”

1. Health care to let you know they ‘care’ about your well being and make you understand that ‘we’re from the government and we’re here to help!’.

2. Gun control to make you feel ‘safe’.(and disarm you)

3. Citizen roundups to let you know WHO is ‘In charge’.

Can’t do the last without doing the first two.


23 posted on 01/18/2013 6:00:01 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: abb

24 posted on 01/18/2013 6:06:33 AM PST by PLD
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To: Bigh4u2

This move to complete control of everything is not new any one remember Hitler, The Muslim in charge is Hitler reborn.


25 posted on 01/18/2013 6:22:51 AM PST by tiger63
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To: from occupied ga

The liberals are master shepherds. Read any social psych textbook and it is all explained.


26 posted on 01/18/2013 7:02:53 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: tiger63
Some people have a knee-jerk Godwin's law reaction that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one . . ." however same reference ". . . Godwin's law applies especially to inappropriate, inordinate, or hyperbolic comparisons of other situations (or one's opponent) with Nazis. The law and its corollaries would not apply to discussions covering known mainstays of Nazi Germany such as genocide, eugenics or racial superiority, nor, more debatably, to a discussion of other totalitarian regimes or ideologies, if that was the explicit topic of conversation, since a Nazi comparison in those circumstances may be appropriate . . ."

When discussing Obama, especially his penchant for power grabs that violate the Constitution and the rule of law, comparisons to Hitler are entirely appropriate. I just hope and pray we learn before paying the price that the German people paid for blindly following their beloved demagogue.

27 posted on 01/18/2013 7:44:25 AM PST by Pollster1
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To: abb

This is not the first time. Years ago I read that the Regulator War of 1770 was started by an attempt to ban firearms in the Carolinas. The citizens lost and several gunsmiths were hanged as a result.

During the British occupation of Boston General Gage ordered all citizens temporarily store their private firearms in the local hall. Then his soldiers seized them and refused to return them.

In ancient Greece a politician called a town meeting. He wanted everyone to store their arms in a local temple till the meeting was over.

After the meeting was over the citizens found the politician’s henchmen had seized the temple and the Pol declared himself the king of that city.


28 posted on 01/18/2013 8:34:12 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: abb

***Distinction noted. But our forefathers did see themselves as citizens, rather than subjects,***

I don’t believe Americans ever felt themselves to be “subjects” in the classical sense of the word.

In England today there is still a sense of “class structure” between Royalty, lords and commoners.


29 posted on 01/18/2013 8:38:43 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: abb

***Having received intelligence, that a quantity of Ammunition, Provisions, Artillery, Tents and small Arms, have been collected at Concord,****

Which is why Americans should NEVER fall for the request to store your private firearms in a government armory as some of the libs have been demanding for the last 50 years.


30 posted on 01/18/2013 8:42:23 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: Eye of Unk
And we know just how much drooling occurs from the Homeland security and FBI techies whenever they chance upon internet chatter that by “their” definition is acts of sedition.

Just a funny note, I was working for DHS when they first issued that “Potential Terrorist” list. I walked it over to my sector chief and read it to him, after much laughter he said, “Those idiots are describing us and nearly all of our agents”.

31 posted on 01/18/2013 9:33:12 AM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: abb

“Orders Issued to Seize Citizen’s Guns (My title - flashback April 18, 1775)”

Seems like that raid resulted in some “Unintended Consequences”….

Could it happen again?


32 posted on 01/18/2013 9:33:56 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: abb

Thanks for posting this.


33 posted on 01/20/2013 2:24:53 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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