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‘Second Amendment Was Passed to Protect Slavery’ (Major hurl alert)
Your Black World ^ | 01/17/2013 | Your Black World

Posted on 01/18/2013 6:30:03 AM PST by aimhigh

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On Hartmann’s The Big Picture with Thom Hartmann, he said, “But I want to tell you something you don’t know about the Second Amendment ,something that’s been lost in the pages of history – that is very crucial to informing today’s current gun debate. And that’s this: The real reason the Second Amendment was ratified, and why it says ‘State’ instead of ‘Country,’ was to preserve the Slave Patrol Militias in the Southern States, which was necessary to get Virginia’s vote. Founders Patrick Henry, George Mason, and James Madison were totally clear on that…and we all should be too…Today’s Second Amendment is linked to our nation’s disturbing history of slavery.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
It's mind blowing what crap some people will believe.
1 posted on 01/18/2013 6:30:08 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh
Jeremiah Wright I presume?
2 posted on 01/18/2013 6:33:56 AM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: aimhigh

Wait until he finds out that the first slave owner in the US was Anthony Johnson, a black man and he owned a guy named John Casor, also black man.


3 posted on 01/18/2013 6:35:42 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: aimhigh

Hey .. OK ... you ain’t gonn’a make no slave out’a ME, mr. federal agency wit’ all your regulations and the mulatto’s Eo’s


4 posted on 01/18/2013 6:38:03 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: aimhigh
‘Second Amendment Was Passed to Protect Slavery’

Don't like it? Then you have a remedy, get congress to pass a constitutional amendment repealing it and get 3/4 of the states to sign on to it (Lol! Good luck with that...). Until then it's the supreme law of the land regardless of how or why it was added..

5 posted on 01/18/2013 6:39:29 AM PST by apillar
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To: aimhigh

I wonder if they ever heard of the Federalist Papers.


6 posted on 01/18/2013 6:40:53 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: aimhigh

I guess the Bible was written to protect slavery, too.....


7 posted on 01/18/2013 6:40:55 AM PST by papertyger
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To: aimhigh

Slaves weren’t allowed to own guns. Either were Jews in World War II Germany.

What do liberal liars make of that?


8 posted on 01/18/2013 6:42:19 AM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door-daughter&wife screaming -Dems took YOUR gun. Shots fired.)
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To: aimhigh

If this was “lost in the pages of history”, how did he come by this knowlege? He’d have to be about 250 years old.....


9 posted on 01/18/2013 6:43:02 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: aimhigh

Black revisionism at work. It is an interesting and disturbing phenomenon. Freed slaves were denied their right to arms by southern Democrats then (and now).

The Democrats (not all fortunately), Commies, Marxists and other radicals will rewrite history in their role as ministers of truth to push these absurd narratives.


10 posted on 01/18/2013 6:43:27 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: aimhigh

One of the Founders, George Mason wrote, “To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them. “, Later on, one of the first projects of the NRA after its founding was to provide firearms and training to newly freed slaves. Any society that depends on keeping one class of people in bondage to another has generally restricted the spread of weapons.


11 posted on 01/18/2013 6:43:56 AM PST by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: apillar
‘Second Amendment Was Passed to Protect Slavery’

So, The Bill of Rights was all about slavery? Or, did The Founding Fathers in their magnificent brilliance, just mis-categorize this one Amendment?

What a load of crap. Useful Idiots on parade.

12 posted on 01/18/2013 6:47:36 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: aimhigh

IMHO this was written in an attempt to beat the real truth to the punch. Glen Beck explained only yesterday on his afternoon radio show how the 2nd AM empowered blacks who were not allowed to own guns OR knives.


13 posted on 01/18/2013 6:47:40 AM PST by V_TWIN (obama=where there's smoke, there's mirrors)
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To: GOPJ
Slaves weren’t allowed to own guns. Either were Jews in World War II Germany.

What do liberal liars make of that?

Yeah, but that was a LOOOONG time ago.Stop using facts, please. We deal only in feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings now.

14 posted on 01/18/2013 6:49:52 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: aimhigh

Boy, talk about making yourself look stupid!

These self appointed experts on all things black are doing more damage to their image and all the bigots in the world combined.


15 posted on 01/18/2013 6:51:14 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: aimhigh

These statists or should I say, fascists want the whole Bill of Rights gone and the 2nd amendment is the entry point.


16 posted on 01/18/2013 6:54:51 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: aimhigh
The comminists are trying to rewrite history, again, just like they did with the civil rights movement (the KKK were sounthern democrats).
The slaves needed guns to shoot back. Without them, they wouldn't have been able to stop the murderous democrats. They would have been sitting ducks in a gun free zone.
17 posted on 01/18/2013 6:55:06 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Dutch Boy

I wonder if this guy has any sense of how many plantations there were in 1789? I wonder if he knew that Georgia was a prison colony and that many individuals in other states came over as indentured servants or tenant farmers? 2nd amendment...yeah sure just like Obama is the second coming.


18 posted on 01/18/2013 6:55:48 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: aimhigh
‘Second Amendment Was Passed to Protect Slavery’

Dear liberals of ALL colors. If this is true,why does The Constitution state "All men are created equal.....?"

19 posted on 01/18/2013 6:56:52 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Dutch Boy

Where do I find support for this? I am aware that a higher percent of blacks owned slaves and a large percentage of American Indians own them as well.


20 posted on 01/18/2013 6:57:11 AM PST by edcoil (Manage your own lawsuit: www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=KK0012)
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To: Dutch Boy

Where do I find support for this? I am aware that a higher percent of blacks owned slaves and a large percentage of American Indians own them as well.

“Wait until he finds out that the first slave owner in the US was Anthony Johnson, a black man and he owned a guy named John Casor, also black man.”


21 posted on 01/18/2013 6:57:28 AM PST by edcoil (Manage your own lawsuit: www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=KK0012)
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To: aimhigh
during the lead-up to the Revolutionary War, Lord Dunsmore offered freedom to slaves who could escape and join his forces.

WTF?

First of all, the name was "Dunmore", not "Dunsmore".

He was a "Lord", i.e. loyalist, governor of Virginia.

His "offer" of freedom was simply a way to avoid paying the troops, not some noble, principled gesture.

If the slaves threw in with the crown, AND IF THE CROWN WON, then they would have gotten freedom (at least that was the plan).

As it turned out, people got their freedom by fighting AGAINST Dunmore, not FOR him.

22 posted on 01/18/2013 6:58:41 AM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: aimhigh

If that be the case (it’s nonsense)… then any honest DemWitocrap (are there any?), would seek to repeal the 2nd Amendment via the Constitutional process, as was done for Prohibition (38 states approving). Not trying an end run our founding document! Truth is (for those who care) the first gun control laws were after the Civil War to prevent newly freed slaves from arming themselves… if they had guns I’m certain there would’ve been far fewer lynchings as the KKK would’ve had to deal with the possibility of return fire! As was on the ‘net recently, an armed law abiding citizen in a “No-Assault weapon”! NEVER underestimate the ability to shoot back!!! God bless America!


23 posted on 01/18/2013 7:00:19 AM PST by FiddlePig
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To: aimhigh

We need to respond to this. There are several people who have post er r about laws enacted after the civil war to keep free blacks disarmed.


24 posted on 01/18/2013 7:01:57 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Rappini
I wonder if they ever heard of the Federalist Papers.

Obviously not. They're just making stuff up as they go along.

25 posted on 01/18/2013 7:04:09 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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Yes, the actual truth of the matter is that gun control originated in the U.S. in the Southern states right after Reconstruction to keep the Klan safe. They didn’t much want the blacks to be able to shoot back when being lynched.

This article was obviously written by a delusional fool with no knowledge of history.


26 posted on 01/18/2013 7:07:43 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Vince Ferrer
In his speech proposing the Bill of Rights to congress, James Madison said, "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person."

The mere structure of that sentence indicates that keeping and bearing arms is a separate thought from the well-regulated militia concept. Even if Carl T. Bogus' (seriously?) thesis that the militia wording was a compromise with the slave-owning South, the essential right to bear arms is unrelated.

Sadly, the language of the actual amendment is less clear than Madison's first formulation, but "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms" can still be read as a separate thought, not dependent on the militia language.

27 posted on 01/18/2013 7:12:31 AM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: aimhigh

There is no limit to the blind ignorance of the leftists.

“State” versus “Country”? Sheesh! The founders never thought of the “Country” as anything more than an affiliation of free and independent STATES for limited purposes that are enumerated in the Constitution.
The fact that the Sheeple have allowed the Federal leviathan to ooze beyond the constraints of those enumerated powers is one reason we are going this insanity right now.


28 posted on 01/18/2013 7:13:31 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Still seeking change.)
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To: Mouton

Additionally, in 1789 the country was looking to the demise of slavery. Tobacco land was dying and Whitney’s gin and Slater’s powered loom were in the future. The Constitution sunsetted the int’l slave trade in 1808. The Founders, as great as they were, could not know Slater and Whitney would give slavery new and greater life. However anyone can review these facts and know that the 2nd amendment had nothing to do with slave patrols. Anyone save this moron writer


29 posted on 01/18/2013 7:29:29 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: aimhigh
Folks, there is a very well thought our narrative be presented here and it seems to be going something like this: Obama is the “Lincoln” of our age. We've seen the Lincoln movies, Obama is being sworn in with his hand on Abe's bible. He's being sold as one who will unite an often bitterly divided country. He is being compared to Lincoln in many ways even if the comparison is dubious. Simultaneously, we've seen gun owners, conservatives and constitutionalists demonized as racists. Jason Fatlock of ESPN called the NRA the new KKK. Chrissy Mathews compares gun owners to the Old South segregationists. There is even a recent article from the left wing propagandists floating about that puts forth the lie that the Second Amendment was established to protect southern militias as they enforced slavery. They are very carefully creating the moral authority for their repression of those who will resist their planned transformation of this country.
30 posted on 01/18/2013 7:32:21 AM PST by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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To: aimhigh
It's mind blowing what crap some people will believe.

The majority of the nation has fallen into insanity and I fear there is no going back.

We now have generations "educated" in government schools who have been brainwashed with political correctness to the extent they cannot sepearate fact from fantasy and cannot make a rational judgement call.


31 posted on 01/18/2013 7:33:28 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein

.....But in the end, it will all blow up in their faces.


32 posted on 01/18/2013 7:35:21 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Wurlitzer

These communists only look stupid to those of us who know the truth. To the boo boo honey, dancing with the stars watching masses, they look and sound like geniuses. God help us.


33 posted on 01/18/2013 7:36:45 AM PST by Conservative4Ever (I'm going Galt)
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To: aimhigh
People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.
34 posted on 01/18/2013 7:37:11 AM PST by bmwcyle (We have gone over the cliff and we are about to hit the bottom)
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein
Folks, there is a very well thought our narrative be presented here and it seems to be going something like this: Obama is the “Lincoln” of our age.

I hope not, but it is not impossible.

Lincoln made decisions that led to the deaths of 600,000 with another 500,000 wounded.

Lincoln was not the great benefactor of blacks because he wanted to release them from slavery. He did not "free the slaves" - he freed only some slaves in order to help him defeat the south. He declared slaves to be free only in the secessionist states. He left those in the other "slave states" as slaves.

IMHO Lincoln is one of the worst presidents we ever had.

The 600,000 killed in Lincoln's war was about 2% of the population at that time. Today that would be about 6,000,000 dead. Imagine a war today of American against American where 6 million were killed.

I have no doubt Obama would be happy to preside over that kind of war if it meant the end of resistance to his unconstitutional government.

Would Americans stand for it?
Well, a majority of voters just re-elected him, knowing what he represents. And the infective against constitutionalists and other conservatives has degenerated into such venomous, foaming-at-the-mouth hate that anything is possible.


35 posted on 01/18/2013 7:51:35 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein
Obama is the “Lincoln” of our age.

Impossible. Lincoln freed the slaves. Oboma is creating them. The two are complete opposites.
Lincoln was for freedom. Oboma is for totalitarianism.
Lincoln started the Republican party. Oboma started the Communist Oboma party.
The two have absolutely nothing in common at all - unless Oboma really is trying to start a civil war like many people believe.

36 posted on 01/18/2013 7:56:22 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: concerned about politics

Why is Lincoln being cast as a dictator so much lately?

If it’s about habeus corpus, he was CoC during a civil war.

If it’s about Reconstruction, he was already dead.


37 posted on 01/18/2013 8:06:18 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: aimhigh

38 posted on 01/18/2013 8:08:32 AM PST by South40
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein

Very good observation


39 posted on 01/18/2013 8:14:52 AM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: aimhigh

These people are beyond help :/


40 posted on 01/18/2013 8:17:43 AM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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To: edcoil
There are many places to fine this but here is one that has some good detail.

Slave Rebellion.org

41 posted on 01/18/2013 8:17:58 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Dutch Boy
The Racist Roots of Gun Control
42 posted on 01/18/2013 8:20:54 AM PST by South40
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To: Izzy Dunne
Lord Dunmore's appeal to the slaves in Virginia is the reason for one of the clauses in the Declaration of Independence:

"He has excited domestic Insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes and Conditions."

That's the other reason everyone wanted to have arms--to defend their families against Indian attacks. Of course the liberal view is that the Indians were always peaceful unless attacked by the genocidal white Americans.

43 posted on 01/18/2013 8:22:26 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: aimhigh

This is a textbook example of what I call “malicious ignorance”; i.e., turning your eyes away from anything that might disperse the unknowingness in your mind.

There is no historical doubt that the basis for the 2nd Amendment was the inclusion of the same right in Britain’s 1689 Bill of Right - to defend against potential tyranny.

All else is lawyer’s lies.


44 posted on 01/18/2013 8:38:25 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: aimhigh

So all the more reason to support the 2nd Amendment NOW. Slavery must never happen again to anyone.


45 posted on 01/18/2013 8:40:10 AM PST by mom.mom
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To: Puppage

Well, um, the Constitution doesn’t say all men are created equal. The Declaration of Independence does.


46 posted on 01/18/2013 8:56:45 AM PST by Hootowl
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To: aimhigh

This ignorant racist should listen to this utube posted in Free Republic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn7bkncf1_E&feature=youtu.be

When you have a gun you no longer are a slave. Without them you are.


47 posted on 01/18/2013 8:58:00 AM PST by Venturer
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To: aimhigh
Note to: Thom Hartmann’s “The Big Picture”. During the civil rights marches and struggles of the 1950s and 1960s, more than a few blacks exercised their 2nd Amendment rights to buy guns and ammo to protect their own lives and those of their families. The KKK and other racists weren't too keen about going up against someone who would shoot them dead.

Now, Mr. Hartmann and all your liberal Leftist trash: If you come to disarm Americans, we armed Americans will kill you. Do you get it or are you just too stupid to understand the implication? Assuming you are stupid: You're gonna be, like dead, dude. And that includes a lot of your fellow travelers.

48 posted on 01/18/2013 9:46:13 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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