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Posted on 01/18/2013 7:41:55 AM PST by EXCH54FE
Most of his crazy proposals are so extreme, only few of his initiatives pose serious threat
Surrounded by child-props, Barack Obama yesterday proposed a semi-automatic ban so extreme that it could potentially outlaw up to 50% of all long guns in circulation and up to 80% of all handguns.
Originally, Obama's allies had announced they would reintroduce the 1994 ban on commonly-owned, defensive firearms. That was until they found out that they would look like fools, since that semi-auto ban was largely the law of Connecticut on the day the Newtown shooting occurred -- and didn't cover Adam Lanza's AR-15. After that, gun grabbers just kept adding more and more guns until they would register (or ban) a huge percentage of the defensive guns in existence.
So where are we now?
Obama's crazy gun ban is now being denounced by many Democrats. And, although you don't "pop the cork" until Congress adjourns, it will probably take the magazine ban down the toilet with it.
This means that gun owners' focus must now shift to the part of Obama's agenda which poses the most danger because it is most likely to move: the requirement that the government approve every gun transfer in America -- the so-called universal background check.
All of you know why this is a problem. But how do you explain it so simply that even a congressman can understand? Let's take a crack at that:
ONE: THE FBI'S "SECRET LIST" WHICH IS BEING USED TO BAR AMERICANS FROM OWNING GUNS IS INSIDIOUS
The FBIs database currently contains the names of more than 150,000 veterans. They served their country honorably. They did nothing wrong. But, because they sought counseling for a traumatic experience while risking their lives for America, they have had their constitutional rights summarily revoked, with no due process whatsoever.
You want to know something else? The "secret list" could soon include tens of millions of Americans -- including soldiers, police, and fire fighters -- with Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, attention deficit and hyperactivity disorder, and even post-partem depression. This would be achieved under the 23 anti-gun "executive actions" that Obama announced yesterday.
TWO: THE FBI REFUSES TO INSURE US THAT IT ISN'T TURNING ITS "SECRET LIST" INTO A NATIONAL GUN REGISTRY
Our legislative counsel drafted the Smith amendment in 1998 to prohibit the FBI from using the Brady Check system to tax gun buyers or put their names into a gun registry. But the FBI refuses to tell us -- or even to tell U.S. Senators -- how (or whether) it is complying with the Smith amendment. Why in the world should we give the FBI more authority and more names if it abuses the authority it already has?
This is the inherent problem with any background check, where gun buyers names are given to a government bureaucrat. Is there any way to make sure that once a name is entered into a computer, that it doesnt stay there permanently?
This concern is especially valid, considering how federal agents are already skirting the laws against gun owner registration. Several dealers around the country have informed GOA that the ATF is increasingly going into gun shops and just xeroxing all of the 4473's, giving them the names of every gun owner who purchased a gun through that shop -- and setting up the basis for a national registration system.
This is illegal under the 1986 McClure-Volkmer law, but that has apparently not stopped it from being done. If every gun in America has to go through a dealer, this will create a mechanism to compile a list of every gun owner in America. And, as we have seen with New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, who has just been legislatively handed such a list, when that happens, the talk immediately turns to confiscation."
THREE: AS A RESULT, REQUIRING GOVERNMENT APPROVAL OF EVERY GUN OWNER IN AMERICA WOULD DO NOTHING BUT CREATE A PLATFORM FOR NATIONAL GUN REGISTRATION AND CONFISCATION.
As alluded to above, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo now has a comprehensive gun registry. This is the most dangerous thing that New York legislators could have done -- as Cuomo has made it clear hes considering gun confiscation of lawfully-owned firearms.
I dont think legitimate sportsmen are going to say, I need an assault weapon to go hunting, Cuomo said. Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option -- keep your gun but permit it.
How nice. Hell let gun owners permit their guns for now -- so that, presumably, they can be confiscated later, just as certain defensive weapons were confiscated in New York City during the Mayor David Dinkins administration in 1991.
FOUR: THE FBI REFUSES TO COMPLY WITH THE LAW GUARANTEEING THE RIGHTS OF LEGITIMATE PURCHASERS
The Brady Law requires that the FBI correct erroneous denials of firearms purchases. And it requires that it reply, initially, within five days. According to attorneys familiar with the problem, the FBI NEVER, EVER, EVER complies with the law. In fact, it increasingly tells aggrieved legitimate purchasers to "sue us" -- at a potential cost of tens of thousands of dollars.
FIVE: EVEN UNDER CURRENT LAW, THE BRADY SYSTEM HAS BROKEN DOWN REPEATEDLY
Since its inception, the FBIs computer systems have often gone offline for hours at a time -- sometimes for days. And when it fails on weekends, it results in the virtual blackout of gun sales at gun shows across the country.
According to gun laws expert Alan Korwin, "With the NICS computer out of commission, the only place you could legally buy a firearm -- in the whole country -- was from a private individual, since all dealers were locked out of business by the FBIs computer problem."
Of course, now the President wants to eliminate that last bastion of freedom!
Recently, the FBIs system went down on Black Friday, angering many gun dealers and gun buyers around the country. It means we cant sell no damn guns, said Rick Lozier, a manager at Van Raymond Outfitters in Maine. If we cant call it in, we cant sell a gun. Its cost us some money.
The bottom line: Our goal is to insure that Obama's politicized dog-and-pony show doesn't produce one word of new gun law. Not a single word.
And the biggest danger right now is universal background checks -- which would create a platform for national registration and confiscation.
We would note that, in addition, Obama is attempting to illegally enact gun control through unlawful and unconstitutional "executive actions."
Why does your link go to a French language site?
"Deer Season Slated Oct. 20-Nov. 20;
Bar Automatic Weapons
Governor Dewey signed a bill yesterday fixing the opening of the 1946 deer season in the Adirondacks for October 20. The season will close Nov. 20. Other bills of interest to local sportsmen signed this week include one prohibiting the use of automatic firearms in hunting.
Designed as a safeguard against the use of rapid-fire weapons brought back by overseas veterans as war souvenirs, the bill defines an automatic gun as "one which will continue to fire as long as the trigger is held back." Autoloading guns which require that the trigger be pulled for each shot are permitted, provide they contain not more than six shells.
The State Conservation Department was authorized to set open season for grouse or partridge concurrently with the season for woodcock."
'Essex County Republican'. Thurs. Apr 11 1946
Machine guns were legal in NY State only 66 years ago, then illegal for hunting - What happened?
Answer: Illegal infringement of the second amendment by unjust govt-
How many more kids must die, before we allow schools to defend the children in their care?
How many more kids must die, before we quit disarming their parents and guardians?
Seriously ... it's not complicated.
Repeal gun control. For The Children.
If it saves even one life, it's worth it.
The first common sense reform of gun laws would be to allow total suppressor freedom.
Here is the proper link for your post.
It’s a good post, by the way. Just needs a working link. Cheers!
As a New Kid on the block, I am a work in progress.
***Obama Goes Nuts and OffersAnti-gunners Wish List****
Anti-gunners always have a wish list ready to go.
When Bobby Kennedy was killed with an American Made pistol, they cobbled together the awful 1968 Gun Control Act. It had in it almost everything the antis wanted.
A ban on the import of 5 shot bolt action army surplus rifles and hand guns.
A ban on the import of small handguns they labeled as “Saturday Night Specials”.
A ban on the import of “military equipment”. One dealer was raided because he imported musket flints.
The 1968 GCA was signed into law, then it was found it did nothing to stop the manufacture of Amercian made small handguns. Even the gun that was used to kill Bobby Kennedy was NOT banned.
Foreign companies imported PARTS which were assembled in the US.
After the 1968 GCA was passed the anti-gunners began to make up NEW wish lists of guns to be legislated against.
The problem is that any time I hear a government official talk about "common sense" ANYTHING, I know that they're out to screw the American public yet again. The fact that they have the nerve to use those two words together, given the fact that DC and most governmental bodies are COMPLETELY DEVOID OF COMMON SENSE!!!!
I'm really tired of them pissing down my back and telling me that it's raining!
I posted this elsewhere, but believe we ought to be flooding the news comments as well as our representatives to do the following:
Counter-attack this insanity by offering such “outrageous” proposals as eliminating the 1968 GCA, allow handgun sales across state lines, put modern-made replicas under the BATF’s 50-year rule, allow CCW holders to have guns shipped directly to them rather than through dealers, etc.
I put “outrageous” in quotes as that would be the liberals’ reaction and they would have to re-direct their energies from implementing new laws into deflecting removal of the old ones.
“This concern is especially valid, considering how federal agents are already skirting the laws against gun owner registration. Several dealers around the country have informed GOA that the ATF is increasingly going into gun shops and just xeroxing all of the 4473’s, giving them the names of every gun owner who purchased a gun through that shop — and setting up the basis for a national registration system. “
A little warning to my fellow freepers. I purchased a gun from a large online sales organization and arranged the transfer through a local FFL in accordance with the law. Years later and after I moved to another state, I got a call from ATF advising me that I had purchased a stolen gun and that they would be coming over to pick it up. No recourse on my part as ATF just drove over and took the gun, leaving me out $1,000 and looking for a replacement item as it was a semi-collectible Colt Anaconda. I questioned how this came up and was told it was a “routine” review of the dealer’s transfers. There are two points to this tale. One, the selling organization’s fraud “insurance” will not cover stolen items. In fact they refused to respond to my inquiries. The second and more troubling point to me is the “routine” review. Since FFL transfers must be kept indefinitely, this is a de facto registration or at least a starting trail for tracking weapons. If the State of NY intends or uses such records to track forbidden weapons, I foresee a major problem in both enforcement and resistence, and the end result is not pretty.