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On Belmokhtar's group: 'They believe the West is one great Sodom and Gomorrah' (Al-Queda in Mali)
Longwar Journal ^ | January 18, 2013 1:47 PM | Thomas Joscelyn

Posted on 01/18/2013 1:02:43 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach



Robert Fowler was kidnapped by Mokhtar Belmokhtar's not-so-merry band of terrorists in 2008 and published a book about the experience, "A Season In Hell: My 130 Days in the Sahara with Al Qaeda." From the excerpts I've read, the title accurately sums up Fowler's experience. Belmokhtar's group is, of course, responsible for the recent assault on a natural gas field in eastern Algeria and the subsequent hostage crisis.

Fowler, a Canadian diplomat who was serving the United Nations when he was kidnapped, has had some interesting things to say about Belmokhtar and his henchmen.

ABC News reports:

"I was afraid for my life all the time," recalled Fowler, "when I woke up in the morning and when I went to sleep at night." ...

Fowler also said Belmokhtar's band was made up of "experienced desert fighters" who hate the West. "I can't tell you the extent to which they hate us," he said. "They believe we are evil incarnate. They believe the West is one great Sodom and Gomorrah."

Some have tried to portray Belmokhtar as a mere criminal. There is plenty of evidence in our write-ups of the siege in Algeria showing that is not true. While Belmokhtar has certainly engaged in wide-ranging criminal activity, it has only served his broader objectives. Fowler is describing ideologues, not criminals.

Then there is this from The Wall Street Journal:

Mr. Belmokhtar appears to have been the principal intermediary between AQIM and al Qaeda in Pakistan, according to analysts who follow the sect, including Robert Fowler, a Canadian diplomat.

Now that is interesting, isn't it? In a few of our pieces we noted that, according to the Associated Press, Belmokhtar's spokesman said just over one month ago that "they remain under the orders of al Qaeda central."

The WSJ notes that Belmokhtar is a bit of a myth-maker when it comes to his biography. The article concludes with these paragraphs [emphasis added]:

Some militants remained unsure of Mr. Belmokhtar's arrangement. "AQIM, Belmokhtar, we don't know what their situation is," said Algabass Ag Intallah, a commander with Ansar Dine, one of the militias in Mali that received weapons and recruits from AQIM.

But on Wednesday, Mr. Hamaha, a commander in AQIM who says he answers to Mr. Belmokhtar, said the entire organization was responsible for the Algerian attack, in retaliation against a common foe--France, for intervening in Mali.

"Now, you're going to see what you've unleashed," he said.

Keep in mind that even though Belmokhtar broke off from al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) to forge his own group, there are numerous reports that his group still fights alongside AQIM and its allies.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: africa; algeria; algier; belmokhtar; mali; waronterror

1 posted on 01/18/2013 1:02:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well it’s close to S&G....but let God decide when to destroy it.


2 posted on 01/18/2013 1:05:23 PM PST by Dallas59 (America died a little bit more on 11/6/2012)
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To: TigersEye; Marine_Uncle; justa-hairyape; onyx; SunkenCiv; blam; GeronL; SJackson; Fred Nerks; ...

More on the Group Leader of the attack in Algier.


3 posted on 01/18/2013 1:05:31 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
hm.. well... sometimes I feel like i’m living in Sodom myself.
4 posted on 01/18/2013 1:07:40 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Horror: Thirty foreign hostages are dead after a helicopter air strike by Algerian forces on the BP gas plant seized by Al Qaeda-linked terrorists led by veteran jihadist Mokhtar Belmokhtar (above)

Horror: Thirty foreign hostages are dead after a helicopter air strike by Algerian forces on the BP gas plant seized by Al Qaeda-linked terrorists led by veteran jihadist Mokhtar Belmokhtar (above)

5 posted on 01/18/2013 1:08:10 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
'They believe the West is one great Sodom and Gomorrah' (Al-Queda in Mali)

Well, even a broken clock is right twice a day.

That doesn't mean we're now BFF, but I'll have to admit they got this one right. Too bad America didn't stop it before it got out of hand.

6 posted on 01/18/2013 1:10:07 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Not completely wrong, BUT, kidnapping and killing people hardly makes them holy or pure of heart.


7 posted on 01/18/2013 1:11:09 PM PST by MarMema (eh.)
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To: MarMema
Not completely wrong, BUT, kidnapping and killing people hardly makes them holy or pure of heart.

Yeah, but verbally they won this round. We lost.

8 posted on 01/18/2013 1:14:29 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"...They believe the West is one great Sodom and Gomorrah."
I'm sure all the clowns in Hollywood are quite proud of their accomplishments as well.
9 posted on 01/18/2013 1:15:06 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We ARE Sodom & Gomorrah. (Understanding "we" to mean our political, social, cultural, professional and governmental elites.) Our Justice Dept, Defense Dept, HHS Dept and State Dept. are doing everything they can to spread moral depravity and perversion under guise of Human Rights coast to coast, and to every nation on earth.

I'm not saying God has recruited Al-Quaeda to be the scourage of judgment on our backs. But if He simply allowed it --- it wouldn't be the first time.

10 posted on 01/18/2013 1:25:35 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Justice and judgment are the foundation of His throne." Psalm 89:14)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I hate to say it, but half of America is pushing Sodom & Gommorrah.

We will hand over all the lefties responsible for it.

I am just tryin’ to negotiate.


11 posted on 01/18/2013 1:26:33 PM PST by dforest
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Dunham Needs Third ‘Girls’ Season To Air New Sex Positions (HBO airing basic cable porn)
Newsbusters ^ | January 18, 2013 | 12:23 | Media Research Center -Katie Yoder

Posted on Friday, January 18, 2013 1:09:42 PM by drewh

According to Lena Dunham, HBO’s “Girls” television show needs a third season to explore new sex positions.

Writer and actress Lena Dunham appeared on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart Thursday to discuss her recent Golden Globe awards earned from her work with “Girls.”

After Stewart questioned Dunham about the latest season of “Girls,” Dunham admitted she hopes for a new third season: “I’m already kind of like trying to conceive of some new demented ideas – some sexual positions we haven’t yet covered.”


12 posted on 01/18/2013 1:27:20 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: concerned about politics

I don’t care how right he is about our culture. Kill him.


13 posted on 01/18/2013 1:28:28 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Nice to see folks so ‘understanding’ of the Islamists.


14 posted on 01/18/2013 1:28:34 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What any Muslim thinks is meaningless to an American. When America wants a Muslim opinion on anything, we will give them one.


15 posted on 01/18/2013 1:30:49 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: BenLurkin

” “I’m already kind of like trying to conceive of some new demented ideas – some sexual positions we haven’t yet covered.””

The actress should consider sex with Koranimals. Arguably, nothing on two legs could be more loathsome than coitus with Koranimals.


16 posted on 01/18/2013 1:34:17 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hey, in Sodom and Gomorrah, at least you could smoke, eat rich foods and buy a 24 ounce soda without being arrested.


17 posted on 01/18/2013 1:41:12 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I will never understand why our primary concern with people focused on killing Americans is whether they are doing so in alliance or as part of AQ. What difference does it make?


18 posted on 01/18/2013 1:44:32 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

We’re degenerate so that gives the muslems the right to kill us? Sorry, guys, that doesn’t compute. Stay home with your lovely harems, camels, one hour “marriages,” gang rapes, and pretty little boys.


19 posted on 01/18/2013 1:45:58 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Dallas59

I love it! A group of primitive, smelly nutcases that practice homosexuality, pedophilia (Muslim boys are often “initiated” by their fathers), polygamy, 15 minute “marriages” with prostitutes, and the rape of infidels is complaining about the West, where we at least have moral standards (even if not always practiced)?


20 posted on 01/18/2013 1:50:44 PM PST by livius
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Can't really blame ‘em can we?

Parts of the US sure seem like that to me. And, or course, our TV is a vast wasteland with few oasisis.

21 posted on 01/18/2013 1:55:31 PM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

on that subject they aren’t far from the mark


22 posted on 01/18/2013 1:56:24 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Dallas59

Oh, wait! I forgot about bestiality...Khomeni’s first published work was a fatwa in an “ask the mullah” column telling Muslim men it was okay to use chickens for sex. However, they were not to eat the chicken afterwards, although I believe it was permissible to sell it in the market.


23 posted on 01/18/2013 1:56:27 PM PST by livius
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To: Dallas59

God uses other nations at times. For instance, when explaining to the Israelites about their promised land He told them that the reason the natives were being invaded and were to die is because they practiced child sacrifice. The Israelites were warned that if they also followed these pagan practices they, too, would suffer the same consequences. It happened.

God hates child sacrifice. Why are we surprised at the consequences?


24 posted on 01/18/2013 1:58:31 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: livius
BARF!!
25 posted on 01/18/2013 2:00:31 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ken H

Most of us aren’t really agreeing with them. But in all the rhetoric, they scored a point.

We say back to them “nice try, but no cigar since the criticism is coming from goat molesters and woman beaters”.

I despise them, but I also cannot defend the culture of this country under leftism. Perhaps it would be nice if we were in the position to set an example. But we are not.


26 posted on 01/18/2013 2:19:44 PM PST by dforest
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To: GladesGuru

Islam is sedition.


27 posted on 01/18/2013 2:24:12 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: faithhopecharity

Something we all need to understand. When your country has lost any moral compass and we allow people with no sense of morality to run our country, we set ourselves up for this kind of attack. Are these people any better? Nope, but they would say the same about us!

We are paying the price now. I know, 50% do not agree with our immoral government, but we do not run things. The misery will be foisted upon us too, like it or not, as a result.


28 posted on 01/18/2013 2:28:47 PM PST by dforest
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To: TigersEye
I don’t care how right he is about our culture. Kill him.

LOL. I'm with you 100% on that one, Tiger.

29 posted on 01/18/2013 2:46:06 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I guess they’ve seen Tulsa.


30 posted on 01/18/2013 3:41:48 PM PST by LouAvul
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Belmokhtar is correct. Barack Obama is the proof


31 posted on 01/20/2013 7:18:20 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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