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A Dude Named Weed Is Trying to Raise the Beer Tax in New Hampshire (Demoncrat)
The Atlantic ^ | JAN 18 2013 | David A Graham

Posted on 01/18/2013 2:11:53 PM PST by nickcarraway

And other lessons on how morality can affect policy, from New England to the Bible Belt

Some people like to smoke marijuana. Some people like to drink beer. And some people like to do both. The amount that they do each depends on incentives -- for example, easy accessibility or higher prices of one of them -- but it's fair to say that for many people weed and beer are what economists would call substitute goods: if your consumption of one goes up, the other will go down, a phenomenon scientists have quantified in various contexts.

Enter into this tension a dude named weed who's trying to decrease Granite Staters' consumption of beer.

Chuck Weed, a Democratic New Hampshire state representative, has proposed increasing the state beer tax by 33 percent, from 30 to 40 cents per gallon, to pay for infrastructure improvements. (The bill's co-sponsor is from Greenville, for what it's worth.) The proposal would raise an estimated $4 million a year, but there are other proposals for increased revenue, including a higher gas tax. What's more, newly elected Governor Maggie Hassan, also a Democrat, won't raise her glass to Weed's proposal. "I want to let the people of New Hampshire know I oppose increasing the beer tax and I will veto it if it gets to my desk," she told reporters. Hassan might be wise to steer clear of the measure. In the state with the nation's greatest per-capita consumption of beer, such a levy could very well be, uh, kryptonite. (The state is also among the nation's highest consumers of weed.)

Wait, don't go! This isn't just a bunch of pot jokes! There's a real policy lesson here!

Take a look at this map of beer taxes around the country from the Tax Foundation.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: beer; government; taxes

1 posted on 01/18/2013 2:12:02 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

I use to have a soft-spoken boss named David Weed who looked a bit like Bill Gates. Of course I do not make fun of peoples names, because is pretty funny too


2 posted on 01/18/2013 2:16:50 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: nickcarraway

The liberals (Progressives) have to go. They are too stupid for their own good and definitely way to stupid for the national good.


3 posted on 01/18/2013 2:22:09 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: nickcarraway

I think this is more a lesson in the fact that Democrats will tax anything and everything as much as humanly possible.


4 posted on 01/18/2013 2:41:32 PM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: nickcarraway
has proposed increasing the state beer tax by 33 percent, from 30 to 40 cents per gallon, to pay for infrastructure improvements

Since I don't drink beer very often I'm all for it. In fact, I'd even support a 30 - 40 cent increase per bottle or can.......

How can anyone argue against the fact that alcohol consumption has destroyed more lives than any other consumable product?

5 posted on 01/18/2013 2:45:35 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Yeah, and when they came to tax my beer, I was all for it, for I didn't drink beer...

When they came to tax sweet and salty snacks, i was all for it, because I didn't eat those, and so forth and so on...

Soon enough, they will start taxing something that you do care about. Let's hope someone cares enough to stand up for you....

6 posted on 01/18/2013 3:00:24 PM PST by Fedupwithit (You gave him what he wanted. I gave him what he needed.)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Yeah, and when they came to tax my beer, I was all for it, for I didn't drink beer...

When they came to tax sweet and salty snacks, i was all for it, because I didn't eat those, and so forth and so on...

Soon enough, they will start taxing something that you do care about. Let's hope someone cares enough to stand up for you....

7 posted on 01/18/2013 3:02:34 PM PST by Fedupwithit (You gave him what he wanted. I gave him what he needed.)
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To: nickcarraway
http://www.beerinfo.com/index.php/pages/beerstateconsumption.html

State Gallons/Year Rank
Nevada 44 1
New Hampshire 43.4 2
North Dakota 41.7 3
Montana 41.5 4
South Dakota 39 5
Wisconsin 38.2 6
New Mexico 37.8 7
Texas 37.4 8
Louisiana 37.1 9
South Carolina 37 10
Kentucky 36.8 11
Nebraska 36.6 12
Arizona 36.4 13
Wyoming 36.4 13
Delaware 35.4 15
Mississippi 35.1 16
Iowa 34.4 17
Florida 33.8 18
Ohio 33.5 19
Colorado 33.4 20
Missouri 33.4 20
Hawaii 32.7 22
Alaska 32.4 23
Vermont 31.4 24
Illinois 31.3 25
Minnesota 31.3 25
West Virginia 31.3 25
Maine 31.2 28
Alabama 30.6 29
Oregon 30.6 29
Idaho 30.4 31
North Carolina 30.2 32
Tennessee 30.2 32
Kansas 30 34
Pennsylvania 29.6 35
Georgia 29.5 36
Michigan 29.3 37
Virginia 29.3 37
Indiana 28.3 39
Rhode Island 28 40
Washington 27.9 41
Massachusetts 27.8 42
Arkansas 27.6 43
Oklahoma 27 44
Maryland 26.1 45
California 26 46
New Jersey 24.1 47
Connecticut 23.2 48
New York 23 49
Utah 19.5 50


8 posted on 01/18/2013 3:06:29 PM PST by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Well, I’d like to see a 30-40% increase in taxes on whatever legal good you enjoy consuming :P

Seriously though, I don’t like coffee, however, that doesn’t mean I support increasing taxes on Starbucks. Live and let live, and focus on starving the beast, instead of throwing it more meat.


9 posted on 01/18/2013 3:10:34 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Hot Tabasco
Since I don't drink beer very often I'm all for it.

You are posting to the wrong forum.

Try Democrat Underground.

Conservatives (generally) oppose tax increases on anything.

10 posted on 01/18/2013 3:23:46 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Boogieman

Kalifornia is 46th? Are they not counting Cervesa?


11 posted on 01/18/2013 3:28:37 PM PST by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: Boogieman; Fedupwithit
Well, I’d like to see a 30-40% increase in taxes on whatever legal good you enjoy consuming

You already did my friend, tobacco.

There weren't many so called conservatives around here who supported us smokers against the resident nico-nazis during the tobacco war of a few years ago and now it's coming around to bite YOU in the ass........

I argued back then that alcohol would be the next target and the nico-nazis ignored it and continued their assault on us.

Well, payback is a bitch isn't it?

12 posted on 01/18/2013 3:37:06 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: elkfersupper
You are posting to the wrong forum.

Conservatives (generally) oppose tax increases on anything.

No I'm not, see my post #12.

13 posted on 01/18/2013 3:41:17 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Hey, don’t direct your wrath on that one towards me, I’m a smoker too, and I opposed all the taxes and smoking bans as well. You see, I’m consistent in opposing vice taxes, and pretty much all taxes, whether they affect me or not. I hardly drink beer anymore either, but I oppose this.


14 posted on 01/18/2013 3:47:11 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: HenpeckedCon

Well, the article talks about the substitution effect, so maybe now that they have “medical” marijuana, they aren’t drinking as much.


15 posted on 01/18/2013 3:49:04 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Hot Tabasco

Apologies.


16 posted on 01/18/2013 3:54:50 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Boogieman
I hardly drink beer anymore either, but I oppose this.

I do too but I'm trying to make a point.......

Very few FReepers stood by us when the nico-nazis were attacking us here on FR so I'll be damned if I'm going to support those same people who are now crying foul on alcohol taxes........

17 posted on 01/18/2013 3:59:02 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I agree with you. Very few Freepers stood by us when cig taxes were being raised again and again.


18 posted on 01/18/2013 4:03:10 PM PST by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: Boogieman
Na, the real answer is Tequila!
19 posted on 01/18/2013 4:10:14 PM PST by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Very few FReepers stood by us when the nico-nazis were attacking us here on FR so I'll be damned if I'm going to support those same people who are now crying foul on alcohol taxes........

Let me go on the record as being in favor of complete freedom as regards vices such as nicotine and alcohol. Just be willing to live with the consequences of your actions...

20 posted on 01/18/2013 4:14:47 PM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: elkfersupper
Apologies.

Sorry but I have nothing to apologize for.........

21 posted on 01/18/2013 4:57:50 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Hot Tabasco

That’s just spiteful though. If everyone thought that way, we’d never stick together about anything.


22 posted on 01/18/2013 5:42:47 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Hot Tabasco

You are what we call a lemming.

Enjoy your freedom while it lasts.


23 posted on 01/18/2013 5:45:45 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: elkfersupper
Conservatives (generally) oppose tax increases on anything.

Except smokes, boy did we Conservative Smokers take a lashing during the Great FR Smoker Beatdown.

Let's see taxing snacks, beer and bullets now, looks like I'm a few "I told you so's" ahead of the game now.

24 posted on 01/18/2013 9:59:51 PM PST by this_ol_patriot
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To: Hot Tabasco
Well, payback is a bitch isn't it?

Sounds so....Democratic (like voting for revenge). I guess we are truly lost when those who have suffered decide that allowing others to suffer is more important than getting back to the Constitution and Freedom.

25 posted on 01/19/2013 4:51:55 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: nickcarraway

The tax is actually a carbon tax on the CO2 effervescence released when the top is removed. Beer and all fermented liquids are a significant CO2 source.

The same is true of untaxed soft drinks. Coke and Pepsi should be taxed as well. CO2 is killing us.


26 posted on 01/19/2013 5:03:16 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: bert

The tax is actually a carbon tax on the CO2 effervescence released when the top is removed. Beer and all fermented liquids are a significant CO2 source.

The same is true of untaxed soft drinks. Coke and Pepsi should be taxed as well. CO2 is killing us.

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Okay, perhaps you’re being sarcastic.

If you’re not, I can only suggest that you open the garage door and turn the engine off.


27 posted on 01/19/2013 5:07:53 AM PST by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: nickcarraway

This will go over well.


28 posted on 01/22/2013 1:36:51 AM PST by Impy (All in favor of Harry Reid meeting Mr. Mayhem?)
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