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Advocates push idea of requiring gun insurance
Seattle Post Intelligencer ^ | 1/18/13

Posted on 01/18/2013 2:12:04 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks

As lawmakers cast around for ways to curb gun-related violence, some are hoping the insurance market might offer incentives.

A bill filed Friday in Massachusetts would require gun owners to purchase liability insurance in the event that a firearm is used to injure. The insurance policies would give those injured by a weapon a legal recourse, backers of the bill say, but they also would create financial incentives that could reduce accidents and fatalities. Gun owners, for example, might see lower insurance rates if they agreed to take firearms training courses and properly stored their weapons.

"Insurance companies were able to discourage smoking through the marketplace and make cars safer through the marketplace," said state Rep. David Linsky, the bill's sponsor.

And insurers have more leeway than law enforcement in some cases, he said.

Massachusetts already has gun storage laws, but police cannot come into a person's home without a warrant, Linsky pointed out. An insurance company, however, would be able to verify that there is proper gun storage before writing a policy.

Officials at the National Conference of State Legislatures say to their knowledge no state has adopted a gun insurance requirement.

The idea is already meeting with resistance for gun rights advocates, who say it amounts to more regulation aimed at law-abiding gun-owners.

"Now we're going to have insurance companies telling us how we are supposed to be trained and where we are going to store our guns?" said Jim Wallace, executive director of the Gun Owners Action League in Massachusetts.

Craig Baenziger, who works at a gun- and ammunition-seller in North Attleboro, Mass., called Northeast Trading Co., said requiring liability insurance for guns makes little sense because it targets people who buy the weapons legally instead of going after criminals who illegally possess them.

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To: Clint N. Suhks

How about if we have all Criminals, or those MOST PRONE TO BREAK THE LAW (aka, the Usual Suspects), purchase “Liability Insurance”, so they can compensate THEIR victims????


21 posted on 01/18/2013 2:37:31 PM PST by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
No.

/johnny

22 posted on 01/18/2013 2:38:24 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kadric

and the school loan business and the mortgage business and the abortion business etc etc etc


23 posted on 01/18/2013 2:38:24 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Let’s see, when I get auto insurance, the insurance company requires identifying information regarding my autos.

When I get a rider on my homeowner’s policy for particular items, they want identifying information on those items.

When I want to get firearms insurance....

You do all understand that this is a backdoor into registration of firearms, don’t you? As well as, of course, a way in which to make it more expensive to own guns.

Oh, and those that are denied insurance - no guns. How convenient.

Phuck this idea.

By the way, general liability insurance (i.e. an umbrella policy) will cover such liabilities, provided you aren’t engaged in a criminal act when the injury in question occurs.


24 posted on 01/18/2013 2:39:34 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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To: jsanders2001

So, the idea here is to transfer the liability from the misuser of the firearm to the person who owns it? I guess that will apply to hammers, baseball bats, knives etc sometime in the future too?

These guys never give up.


25 posted on 01/18/2013 2:40:53 PM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: JRandomFreeper; Travis McGee; Noumenon; Dead Corpse

Check this out, as well as #24.


26 posted on 01/18/2013 2:41:14 PM PST by Ancesthntr (Banning guns to prevent crime is like banning cars to prevent drunk driving.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

For the left, it is always about money.


27 posted on 01/18/2013 2:42:20 PM PST by dforest
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To: Jerrybob

You’re right. I think we can expect “mandatory gun insurance.”


28 posted on 01/18/2013 2:42:34 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

As someone in the insurance business you already have liability insurance if you have a homeowner policy. This liability follows you where you go. Check with your insurance agent for specifies though as policy coverage will differ by company.


29 posted on 01/18/2013 2:44:48 PM PST by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: gaijin

Here in the DC metro area, one in ten drivers don’t have insurance, so I expect gun insurance would follow the same pattern.


30 posted on 01/18/2013 2:46:38 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Just like driving a car without insurance.
A separate charge.

NEW CHARGE:
Committing an armed robbery and being ALSO charged with no weapon insurance.

Next it will be to individually insure each bullet, with another charge being ‘chain of custody’ on a bullet used in the commission of a crime.

The lawyers AND insurers fall all over each other in new schemes to extort money from us, and if it came right down to it they are probably in collusion.

Few years ago I was raising ‘hell’ with the State over the Uninsured Motorist fee...You threaten me with jail, seizure of vehicle and tags, if I drive without insurance YET I have to ‘pay’ into a fund for others so they can drive without insurance.
The State blames the insurance companies and the insurance companies blame the states.....


31 posted on 01/18/2013 2:50:19 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Stupid private sector tax payers...Like their cars, lets pass laws making these stupid tax peons to pay to register these things over and over and over and over...every damn year. If anyone mentions the Constitution, or rights, just laugh in their faces. Make them pay 100 bucks each a year, and give them a little pink sticker to stick on these things for their trouble...


32 posted on 01/18/2013 3:04:38 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: onyx

Thanks for bringing that up! Always follow the money.


33 posted on 01/18/2013 3:05:48 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Clint N. Suhks

It makes more sense for those who don’t contribute to their own defense and safety by purchasing a firearm and being proficient in it’s use to pay a tax to local gov’ts to cover the cost of local law enforcement.


34 posted on 01/18/2013 3:08:17 PM PST by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: SaraJohnson
Particularly when the money is a penalty!
35 posted on 01/18/2013 3:08:23 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Another back door.

These people are relentless.

What they really want, and what "gun insurance" amounts to is registration which always leads to...

...say it with me...

...confiscation.

36 posted on 01/18/2013 3:14:21 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

the insurance companies are all looking to help. LOL


37 posted on 01/18/2013 3:16:01 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

This is the reason why you need to kill criminals and not injure. To do that you need gun control ... of the accuracy variety.


38 posted on 01/18/2013 3:16:40 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: Argus
How about voting insurance, so the rest of us can get reimbursed for damages by the idiots who voted in Obama and the other Dems?

Excellent! My nomination for post of the day.

39 posted on 01/18/2013 3:18:39 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

The Governor of New York made a fool of himself by signing legislation attempting an end run.

The fools are assuming people will give a damn about their pitiful efforts and follow the law.


40 posted on 01/18/2013 3:21:53 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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