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To: Vendome

Well, I googled the declaration of independence, the consitution, and finally the bill of rights texts.

I pressed ctrl f and entered the word “collective” for each text, and that word prompted no result for any of the three texts.

I am going to go ahead and rule out the word “collective” as it relates to anything in this country other than the band of communists that collectively calls itself the democrat party.


6 posted on 01/18/2013 8:34:07 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: chris37
You did, of course, try the term 'people', right?

The Second does two things ~ it recognizes that the entire class of people are noblemen. Secondly, it prohibits the federal government from abridging their rights ~ as noblemen.

Remember, power flows up from the bottom in America. Everyone is a nobleman. They all live in states. The state's exercise the sovereign powers of states as they are identified in the Peace of Westphalia (and as ratified in the Treaty of Paris 1783). The states act through an agent called the Federal government to effectuate foreign affairs, and interstate commerce.

Which means that ALL rights are collective rights and individual rights ~ but the Federal government has only limited powers or rights and they are enumerated!

46 posted on 01/19/2013 12:36:00 AM PST by muawiyah
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