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US representative calls for outlawing 3-D printed gun magazines.
NBC News Technology ^ | 1/19/13 | Devin Coldewey , NBC News

Posted on 01/19/2013 12:44:11 PM PST by carriage_hill

U.S. Representative Steve Israel (D-Huntington, N.Y.) plans to propose a ban on creating gun magazines with 3-D printers. The bill is still in the drafting stage, but Israel intends to make sure existing legislation includes consideration for this new kind of homemade firearm.

Last month, Rep. Israel proposed to renew the Undetectable Firearms Act, which was adopted in 1988 and will expire in December of this year. Israel suggested that the act, which requires all guns to be detectable by such devices as X-ray machines and metal detectors, is more relevant than ever.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 3d; banglist; mags; newyork; printing
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A lib-dem POS is already on this technology, like flies on a pile of...
1 posted on 01/19/2013 12:44:18 PM PST by carriage_hill
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To: carriage_hill

What an idiot. Make whatever laws on manufacturing, possession and use. Who gives a damn if they are printed, stamped, molded or carved out of mastodon ivory.


2 posted on 01/19/2013 12:48:50 PM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: carriage_hill
Work up a box made of metal impregnated cardboard that's easily assembled by almost anyone.

You put it together and toss it in any baggage you intend to check (wouldn't want to mess with the TSA at the passenger entry points ~ they might come unhinged).

With enough bags and enough boxes doing nothing but showing up on Xrays, that should slow down civil aviation to a snail's pace.

Another box would be plain cardboard wrapped with aluminum foil duct tape.

3 posted on 01/19/2013 12:51:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

huh?


4 posted on 01/19/2013 1:01:19 PM PST by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: carriage_hill

Isn’t the creation of undetectable stuff sort of...the point?

We’re just going to have to outlaw all 3D printers.


5 posted on 01/19/2013 1:01:25 PM PST by lurk
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To: muawiyah; USMCPOP

Who didn’t see this coming?


6 posted on 01/19/2013 1:03:01 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s/15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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“...outlaw all 3D printers.”

They’re already working on pages and pages and pages of regulations; bet on it.


7 posted on 01/19/2013 1:04:57 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s/15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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To: carriage_hill

Democrat politicians have “Jumping On The Band Wagon” honed to a fine art.


8 posted on 01/19/2013 1:05:30 PM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: carriage_hill

Plastic magazines aren’t undetectable, they still need metal springs.


9 posted on 01/19/2013 1:06:47 PM PST by Dan Cooper
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To: carriage_hill

Yeah, good luck with that one. [/s]
Typical Liberal idiot—all we need to do is pass a LAW!


10 posted on 01/19/2013 1:07:16 PM PST by rbg81
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To: carriage_hill

Uh what good is a “non detectable” gun or magazine without bullets?


11 posted on 01/19/2013 1:08:28 PM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: carriage_hill

how about we let individual states decide what magazines are or aren’t legal, and not worry how the magazine came into existance?


12 posted on 01/19/2013 1:11:01 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Which the new technologies will flow around like water, because regulation is like censorship - they will treat it like damage and route around it. “The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems (or anything else)_will slip through your fingers.”


13 posted on 01/19/2013 1:11:31 PM PST by coydog (Time to feed the pigs!)
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To: Dan Cooper
they still need metal springs.

It's possible that the mass of the metal spring would be insufficient to trip a metal detector. Not sure how sensitive they keep them.

14 posted on 01/19/2013 1:14:26 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Humans have eliminated natural selection. Morons are now a protected species. They breed and vote.)
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To: USMCPOP

magazine, as in receptacle for storing extra rounds and feeding them into firearm, or as in something that people read?


15 posted on 01/19/2013 1:18:25 PM PST by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: carriage_hill

The Internet community sees prohibition as a river sees a rock.

It will always be able to go around it.


16 posted on 01/19/2013 1:22:11 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: carriage_hill

Fk him and the horse he rode in on !


17 posted on 01/19/2013 1:22:40 PM PST by Renegade
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To: carriage_hill
This is the most useless law ever proposed, and fundamentally misunderstands the technology.

First, almost anyone who would use this to manufacture gun parts knows guns and what parts they want to make, and can create the parts they want by themselves, given enough effort and skill. They cannot ban the transfer of knowledge.

Second, passing a law against possession or manufacturing is unenforceable. Homeland Security can search your house as often as they want, but will only find a printer and spools of plastic filament. The parts won't exist until the person wants them to exist, and whether it is to shoot school children or fight tyranny, the police won't know when the person pushes the print button.

Third, lawmakers want to ban specific items like gun magazines that will fit into certain models of commercial manufactured weapons. But the real genius of the additive manufacturing wave is to push down to the masses a technology that allows them to create personalized objects of their own design. A skilled craftsman can use tools to create new weapons, not just copies of commercial manufactured weapons, that cannot be foreseen by legislators or law enforcement. They may not be even be recognizable as weapons until they are used. Legislators have no ability to ban things that can be made individually and can't be predicted.

We are not crossing into a dangerous new territory, it crosses into an old territory when the local blacksmith had the power and knowledge and tools to create weapons by himself. And yet we survived that era fine. We need to concentrate on the character and mental state of the people involved more than the technology.

18 posted on 01/19/2013 1:31:50 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: carriage_hill

I’m downloading the megapack from DEFCAD -— just in case...


19 posted on 01/19/2013 1:37:25 PM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: Iron Munro

Piling-on the “topic de jour”, as usual.


20 posted on 01/19/2013 1:40:40 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s/15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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