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Remembering Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson
Canada Free Press ^ | January 19, 2013 | Calvin E. Johnson, Jr.

Posted on 01/19/2013 2:20:42 PM PST by BigReb555

General Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson are forever memorialized and remembered along with Confederate President Jefferson Davis on the larger than life carving at “Stone Mountain Memorial Park” near Atlanta, Georgia.

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Do you remember the Don Williams’s country song “Good Ole Boys like me” which begins with the lyrics: “When I was a kid Uncle Remus he put me to bed with a picture of Stonewall Jackson above my head?”

During the month of January students, teachers, parents, Joe and Jane America and the world will hear praise and tribute to the late Civil Rights leader and Baptist Pastor Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. who was born on January 15, 1929 in Atlanta, Georgia…. But, will equal time be given to two more great Americans, General Stonewall Jackson and General Robert E. Lee, who were also born in January?

A portrait of Robert E. Lee adorns the Georgia State Capitol where the Sons of Confederate Veterans held their first Lee birthday celebration in 1988.

The Georgia Division Sons of Confederate Veterans will sponsor the 26th Annual Robert E. Birthday in Milledgeville, Georgia on the actual day of Lee’s birthday, Saturday, January 19, 2013. A march from the Old Governor’s mansion to Georgia’s Old State Capitol will begin at 10:45 AM.

General Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson are forever memorialized and remembered along with Confederate President Jefferson Davis on the larger than life carving at “Stone Mountain Memorial Park” near Atlanta, Georgia.

The Stonewall Brigade Camp 1296 Sons of the Confederate Veterans of Lexington, Virginia is preparing to host the 2013 Lee-Jackson Day events to be held January 18-19, 2013. Read more at: http://stonewallbrigade.webs.com/apps/blog/entries/show/16184579-lee-jackson-day-2013 Be part of a Lee-Jackson event near you!

May 10, 2013, will mark the 150th anniversary of the death of Stonewall Jackson who was accidentally shot by Confederate pickets at the Battle of Chancellorsville on May 2, 1863. General Jackson survived with the loss of an arm, but died of complications from pneumonia eight days later. The War Between the States Sesquicentennial, 150th Anniversary, continues through 2015. Read more at: http://www.150wbts.org/

Robert E. Lee was born on January 19, 1807 at Stratford, Westmoreland County, Virginia and Stonewall Jackson was born on January 21, 1824 in Clarksburg, Virginia.

General Thomas J. “Stonewall” Jackson is considered by Military historians as one of the most gifted tactical commanders in United States history. He was General Robert E. Lee’s right hand during many battles and…. When Stonewall Jackson passed away, General Robert E Lee was quoted as saying "Jackson has lost his left arm, but I have lost my right".

Lee graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point, New York in 1829, second in his class and without a single demerit and Jackson graduated from West Point in 1946, 17th in a class of 59 students.

Robert E. Lee wed Mary Anna Randolph Custis in June 1831 and Stonewall Jackson married twice. Jackson’s first wife was Elinor Junkin (1824-1854), who died shortly after giving birth to a stillborn son. His second wife, Mary Anna Morrison (1831-1915), was the mother of Julia Laura (1862-1889), the only Jackson child to reach adulthood.

Both men fought valiantly in the War with Mexico. Lee was wounded at the Battle of Chapultepec and Jackson just graduating from West Point in 1846 joined the 1st US Artillery as 2nd Lieutenant and served under General Winfield Scott.

Robert E. Lee was appointed superintendent of West Point in 1852.

Stonewall Jackson taught at Virginia Military Institute beginning on August 13, 1851. He taught natural and experimental philosophy (related to modern day physics and including physics, astronomy, acoustics, optics, and other scientific courses).

General Winfield Scott offered Robert E. Lee command of the Union Army in 1861, but he refused. Lee would command the legendary Army of Northern Virginia for the Confederacy.

General Stonewall Jackson secured great victories at the Battles of Manassas, Antietam and at Fredericksburg.

Robert E. Lee was called Marse Robert, Uncle Robert and Marble Man.

General Jackson earned his nickname “Stonewall” at the First Battle of Manassas in July 1861 when he rushed his troops forward to close a gap in the line against a Union attack. Upon observing Jackson, one of his fellow generals reportedly said, "Look, men, there is Jackson standing like a stone wall!"-Jackson was commissioned a major general in October 1861.

Robert E. Lee died of a heart attack at 9:30 on the morning of October 12, 1870, at Washington-Lee College and is buried at Lee Chapel.

Jackson’s body laid in state at the Governor's Mansion in Richmond for the public view, and he was then moved to be buried in 1863 at the Stonewall Jackson Memorial Cemetery, Lexington, Virginia.

Gen. Stonewall Jackson’s last words were: “Let us cross over the river, and rest under the shade of the trees.”

God bless these men, our nation’s heroes!

1 posted on 01/19/2013 2:20:54 PM PST by BigReb555
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To: BigReb555

I always remember Robert E Lee’s birthday on the third Monday of January. By strange coincidence, I always seem to get the day off!


2 posted on 01/19/2013 2:23:14 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: BigReb555

To we Yankees Lee and Jackson are the noble enemies-a concept lost about 1914 through 1918 when it was replaced by the concept of the “evil enemy” in order to cater to the demands of the democratic mob.


3 posted on 01/19/2013 2:28:16 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: BigReb555

To we Yankees Lee and Jackson are the noble enemies-a concept lost about 1914 through 1918 when it was replaced by the concept of the “evil enemy” in order to cater to the demands of the democratic mob.


4 posted on 01/19/2013 2:28:30 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: BigReb555
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5 posted on 01/19/2013 2:43:58 PM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: BigReb555
Photobucket I still tear up when I read quotes from Lee and Stonewall Jackson.....much the same as Washington and Jefferson.
6 posted on 01/19/2013 2:52:15 PM PST by ontap
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To: BigReb555

Dixie Outfitters has a cool t-shirt of the Stone Mountain carving: http://dixieoutfitters.com/dixie_store/view_details?department_id=35&item_id=21427


7 posted on 01/19/2013 2:59:18 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: BigReb555

IMHO the reverence toward Jackson gives short shrift to James Longstreet. Longstreet had a better understanding of the changes happening in warfare, and the omportance they had in strategic thinking. In short, he was a “modern” general in the mold of Grant, but was the victim of character assasination after the war, particularly by some officers who tried to lay the blame for the disaster of Picket’s charge on him rather than Lee. Many also called him a traitor to the South for publishing a letter calling on his fellow Southerners to accept defeat at the judgment of God and reconcile with the North for the sake of their future. But the everyday soldiers knew better. When he attended a reunion of the Army years after he was greeted with a standing ovation.


8 posted on 01/19/2013 3:00:03 PM PST by Hugin ("Most times a man'll tell you his bad intentions, if you listen and let yourself hear."---Open Range)
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To: BigReb555

No offense but it seems this exact thread title is posted every month.


9 posted on 01/19/2013 3:01:02 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: CodeToad

Once a month sounds about right!!!


10 posted on 01/19/2013 3:09:08 PM PST by ontap
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To: BigReb555

I suggest everyone read Viscount Garnet Wolseley’s writings about Lee.

Wolseley was one of the greatest British soldiers of all time and he clearly thought Lee was the best person he ever met and by quite a margin.


11 posted on 01/19/2013 3:09:36 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: BigReb555

Have been to Stone Mountain many times.


12 posted on 01/19/2013 3:22:58 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: BigReb555

Lee was a very great man and soldier, who unfortunately saw it as his duty to fight for a bad cause. He fulfilled his duty with honor and was respected by his foes.

Jackson was also a great soldier, but was a very strange man.


13 posted on 01/19/2013 3:33:15 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I too have been to Stone Mountain many times (100s), which is not surprising as I have lived within ten miles of the park almost all my life.
When I was a kid, and before the area became a State Park, my Dad would drive us kids to the top on our birthdays. It gets pretty steep toward the end of the drive up. Great memories.
The carving is huge; it dwarfs Rushmore.
I remember General Lee’s birthday every year because it’s also my Mom’s birthday. She would be ninety today.
Love you, Mom.


14 posted on 01/19/2013 4:58:04 PM PST by BIV (typical white person)
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To: Sherman Logan
Lee was a very great man and soldier, who unfortunately saw it as his duty to fight for a bad cause.

His cause was a noble as General Grant's. More sad is the fact the cause was honorable and history books were rewritten about the real issues that lead to the war. The north was not innocent either nor for that matter a friend of black people. The Civil War was an industrial war backed by industrialist on both sides with the issue of slavery in the north used as a tool for economic advantage and a catylist for justifing the war to the people.

Lincoln was not the wise and caring benevolent to blacks person history portrays him to be either. He was a segregationist who's goal was sending slaves back to their homelands after the war to those who sold them here to start with. Lincoln was an industrial puppet a man who's on finances were bleak and political career rather limited up till POTUS.

The northern states say slavery as a liability or something they could give up in exchange for limiting and stunting the upcoming industrialized southern states also who were building their infrastructure on the backs of slaves just as the north had done.

Lincoln ended states rights and started this nation on the destructive path of a strong central federal government of which the abuses are rampant that we live under today. Lincoln did no one any real favors except his backers.

The Generals of of the north & south just a few years before were in academy together and friendships established and some later renewed after the Civil War. To call the Civil War a war to free to free slaves does it and those who fought on both sides a huge injustice. Slavery would not have lasted another decade or two in the south due to automation much the same way tractors replaced mules. Mules had to be fed, sheltered, and cared for. Yea a harsh comparison on my part but the economic reality of it just as it had happened in the at the time of the Civil War developed and industrialized north. On the war kept slavery alive and well into the almost mid 1950's in the form of economical slavery both in the north and the south.

15 posted on 01/19/2013 5:01:50 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Sherman Logan
Shut up, scum. You've exposed yourself as being a koranimal sympathizer but this is a bonus.
16 posted on 01/19/2013 5:42:25 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: cva66snipe

Grant’s term as president has gone down as one of the, if NOT THE, most corrupt admin in history.

He brought his treachery into the White House & it was a pure reflection of his character.

(SPIT!)


17 posted on 01/19/2013 5:46:35 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: bayouranger

Nah Grant was a saint compared to LBJ, Willie, and Zero.


18 posted on 01/19/2013 5:54:38 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: bayouranger

I compliment you on your devastatingly witty repartee.


19 posted on 01/19/2013 5:57:37 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: bayouranger

BTW Bragg had issues also. Like huge ego issues. That lead to his downfall on the battlefield. He had good field officers but didn’t listen to them. Look up Major General John P McCown CSA. McCown showed him up and Bragg got mad.


20 posted on 01/19/2013 5:58:46 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Sherman Logan

I spit upon you.

You’re a coward. A traitor. Scum.

Go eat your humus.


21 posted on 01/19/2013 6:09:45 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: cva66snipe

Will do, thanx.


22 posted on 01/19/2013 6:11:05 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: bayouranger

I never thought I would be defending Grant but I think he was a decent man even if he was a poor president. I don’t think he was personally corrupt but he served at a time when Congress was full of radicals.


23 posted on 01/19/2013 6:14:40 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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To: yarddog

Perhaps but that doesn’t change his record.

Was he effective? Absolutely.

How he accomplished his tasks during the war is questionable but his tenure as President was horrific to the Republic which he claimed to represent after they destroyed it.

Hypocrisy at its best.


24 posted on 01/19/2013 6:21:32 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: Bryanw92
SONS OF CONFEDERATE VETERANS
Grimes co. Grey's.
Anderson, Texas
25 posted on 01/19/2013 6:28:36 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: cva66snipe

Dive right in!

http://www.therightscoop.com/robert-e-lee-1807-1870/

The water’s fine.


26 posted on 01/19/2013 6:35:31 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: CodeToad

bigreb always posts his vanities twice.


27 posted on 01/19/2013 7:51:34 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: bayouranger

You kiss yer mama with that mouth? LOL


28 posted on 01/19/2013 7:54:19 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: BigReb555

“God bless these men, our nation’s heroes ...”

Most definitely.

I’m one of those folks that don’t have a “side” when thinking about the Civil War. Some of my ancestors fought for the Union and some for the Confederacy.

I think the Southern branch of my family lost more sons/brothers and suffered more in the years after the war. I have a lot of sympathy for the many Southerners defending home against Federal invaders.

But at the same time, while slavery was legal, it was immoral under a higher law.

If only the issues could have been resolved peaceably, without the loss of hundreds of thousands of American lives.


29 posted on 01/19/2013 8:15:36 PM PST by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: rockrr

Only after we swap spit...and gargle.

You?

Har har har....har.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQPfQvLIseA


30 posted on 01/19/2013 8:21:21 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: bayouranger

Here in Virginia we celebrate Lee Jackson Day as a state holiday. A worthy recognition for two exceptional men.


31 posted on 01/19/2013 9:43:49 PM PST by Don@VB (Power Corrupts)
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To: ontap

A monument to the losers.


32 posted on 01/20/2013 12:35:25 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa
That war had no winners. The south lost, the north lost, the slaves lost, the United States Constitution lost. You have to remember The Founding Fathers many owned slaves. Blacks owned slaves as well as sold them.

Constitution wise it would have been wise of Abe and Congress too allow technology to make slavery as uneconomical in the south as it had became in the north. Likely by 1890 it would have happened. Automation would have taken over. That was why northern industrialist were so darn eager to allow it to be abolished there and demanded it be abolished in the south. These were at the time ruthless men who put money and power above everything including nation. They were pitted against each other and drug the nation to war. There was Oil wars, railroad wars, mining wars, etc all which lead up to The Civil War.

Smedley Butler's opinion on war was on the money in relation The Civil War. It was an economic war and later the reasons rewritten as political correctness took hold of schools in the 1930's on. The war did not change any prevailing racial attitudes. Even the military was segregated in WW2. The north did not treat free blacks well thus rioting happened after The Civil War. They received near slave wages at jobs others would not take. In the military same thing. Who do you think built the toughest stretch of the Alcan highway in WW2? There was more segregation likely in the north than south.

Economically slavery survived well into the early 1960's in some regions. Tennessee Ernie Ford's song Sixteen Tons was reality for many. So was the Company Store a legal form of slavery that flourished in the U.S. for 100 years after the Civil War. The New Slavery.

33 posted on 01/20/2013 2:35:45 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: jmacusa

It was my wifes GGG Uncle who coined the phrase “Damned Stinking Cotton Oligarchy” and he was a Confederate General. Cotton was just another part of the industrial war.


34 posted on 01/20/2013 2:45:10 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Cloverfarm
But at the same time, while slavery was legal, it was immoral under a higher law.

Amen.

35 posted on 01/20/2013 3:21:38 AM PST by Scoutmaster (End it now - enditmovement.com)
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To: BigReb555

The First War of Northern Aggression (...to be continued).


36 posted on 01/20/2013 4:49:07 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: cva66snipe

If you read anything of Lincoln, from his speeches, to his debates, to his inauguration address, to his proclamations, it was clear that he sought the peaceful resolution to the souths rebellion.

He was even willing to sign on to the original 13th amendment which would have defined perpetual slavery (a huge mistake IMO) in order to save the union. None of it mattered to the southern hotheads who were spoiling for a fight. We were fast becoming the last industrialized nation to continue the practice of slavery and increasingly the subject of hostility and alienation from other nations. Why do you suppose no other nation would stand with the confeds in their rebellion?

There was a winner in that painful conflict - The United States (and its Constitution). We are still here enjoying God’s bounty. If an improbable confed win were to have happened it would have set the scene for decades of warfare between north and south, and a thousand internecine conflicts within (and especially along border communities) of both nations. There likely would no longer be nations but revert to nation-states, prime for the picking.

No, the reason for the conflict that cost so much in misery and the loss of human life was the southern slaverocrisy who pitted farmer against farmer, neighbor against neighbor, and family against family so that they could continue to enjoy the finer things brought to them courtesy of the black man.


37 posted on 01/20/2013 8:05:55 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: jmacusa
Well...the winners are represented by Chucky Schummer and BHO...tell me again how the devaluation of states rights have played out and how proud you are of the liberal northeastern model of government!!!
38 posted on 01/20/2013 8:24:40 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap

The instigators of the conflict - the southern slavers - were democrats. So, if one were to subscribe to your definition of “winning”, they have won by other means. The notion of “states rights” - itself an oxymoron (because states do not have rights - those are reserved to the people) within the context of the rebellious south was and is a ruse. The only “states rights” that they gave a damn about was the right to own other human beings.

Gee, it really sucks the way that turned out.


39 posted on 01/20/2013 8:30:56 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
States rights are born in the constitution my friend ..i.e. all rights not designated to the federal government are reserved to the States....fairly elementary to any one who bothers to read the document. You are typical of the west coast ...all air and little else. But like it or not your hero's in the north are the ones seeking to destroy the 2nd amendment and direct ancestors of your hero's who won the civil war. By the way genius history is written by the victors for small minded people ...like you!!!
40 posted on 01/20/2013 11:30:14 AM PST by ontap
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To: ontap
By the way genius history is written by the victors for small minded people ...like you!!!

And the mythology is written by the losers for small minded people ...like you!!!

41 posted on 01/20/2013 11:49:26 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: ontap

Didn’t know liberalism was a regional thing. What explains California? Funny thing is the CSA were all a bunch of Democrats.


42 posted on 01/20/2013 11:54:27 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: ontap

Boy you Rebs are the past masters of projection.


43 posted on 01/20/2013 11:56:19 AM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

It must really suck for them to realize that their ancestors were democrats - their G-Grandfathers, their Grandfathers, perhaps even their fathers. Yes, the southron aristocracy were democrats. It was democrats that brought us the Civil War, it was democrats that created the Jim Crow laws and the KKK, and democrats that initially fought the civil rights struggle and then turned around and took credit for it.


44 posted on 01/20/2013 12:25:28 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
Why do you suppose no other nation would stand with the confeds in their rebellion?

I believe England did a lot to support the South in their effort.

Which is strange because they were adamantly against slavery (William Wilberforce, etc.)

I suppose they thought stopping the coming economic juggernaut which ultimately happened with the victory of the North was foremost in their minds.

45 posted on 01/20/2013 1:23:28 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up

England wanted to - they were a huge trading partner - but you are correct, they wouldn’t officially acknowledge the confederacy because of The Particular Institution.


46 posted on 01/20/2013 3:37:44 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
Rather an odd attitude for the Brits to take considering they were rather keen on class separation in their own culture. "God bless the squire and his relations to keep us all in our stations'' they said. Lower your station the worse off you were.
47 posted on 01/20/2013 3:55:29 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: ontap

At one time I was a liberal. And a drunk too. The two are a lot alike, liberalism and substance abuse, it’s all emotion over intellect. In time, by the grace of God I sobered up. And when I got my brains out of hock my politics became conservative. Seems to me you’re still drinking from a poisoned political well and you lost the pawn ticket.


48 posted on 01/20/2013 4:01:45 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: rockrr

ZING!!!! :-)


49 posted on 01/20/2013 4:05:43 PM PST by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: rockrr
Much of the problems we have in government today stem from precedents set by POTUS and allowed by congress in the Civil War empowering the POTUS beyond origional intent. There were still battles after the war. Slavery simply changed names and method of ownership minus the liability.

There were hotheads on both sides. A war was going on in the U.S. that would last well into the early 1900's. The later names involved ones like Morgan, Rockefeller, Carnegie, Scott, to name a few of many. Oh and other nations did sell weapons to CSA. Civil Wars of other nations are not wise to jump into most of the time. If only our own government could realize this in modern times.

As for myself I would never want the moral responsibility of slave ownership. I'm not pro-slavery. Historically though I see where nations were built on the labor of slaves and the slaves facing adversity rose up and beyond slavery. There is not one race in history more enslaved than what has been the Jewish people. Look at Egypt's wonders. They built them. Look at Rome's engineering same thing. The Jewish people either labored or paid for the labor for Rome. Slavery in the USA brought up a race from uneducated primitive conditions to successful persons in history that would change our nations and their own course in history.

The next uprising to watch for? IMO China. The churches are alive and well there though underground. You also have to remember this. The nation which ended slavery of black people in the U.S. stood by in silence as brave men and women in China faced off a communist government. Our governments response to Tiananmen Square was basically Shine your Jackboots fer ya Mr Chairman. Why? Because our nations leaders all the way to the top were deeply vested in China Trade interest meaning trading with the Communist Government of China just as some had done with Hitler pre-WW2. Many were them northern Blue Bloods LOL. Just as the days leading up to our Civil War it's all about power and money but it wasn't about ending slavery.

50 posted on 01/20/2013 4:18:35 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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