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Declining birthrate poses challenge to California's future
Daily News ^ | 01/18/2013 | By Susan Abram and Matt O'Brien, Staff Writers

Posted on 01/19/2013 4:23:50 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

California is losing its children.

After decades of simultaneously worrying about and cashing in on its ever-growing population, the Golden State now awaits a new challenge: too few children and, eventually, too few skilled and able-bodied workers.

"Kids are no longer overrunning us. Now they're in short supply," said Dowell Myers, a demographer at the University of Southern California. "It changes the priorities for the state."

The number of California babies born each year began dropping steadily in 2007, according to state public health records, but the birthrate began slowing years before.

From 2002 to 2011, there was a statewide decrease in births of 5 percent.

Around Southern California, the trend can be seen across many counties. Los Angeles County saw a nearly 14 percent decrease in births in the same time period.

Within the county, similar declines were seen in San Gabriel Valley and in the South Bay.

Long Beach saw the number of live births decline quickly - by 7 percent - in just three years.

In the San Fernando Valley, from 2005 to 2010 the birthrate dropped from 13.5 births per 1,000 residents to 12.2 births per 1,000.

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TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; mexico; obamacare; sanfrancisco
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1 posted on 01/19/2013 4:23:52 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

One place in California that ought to be totally devoid of kids is San Francisco. No parent who loves his children should ever want to so much as visit the city with his kids.


2 posted on 01/19/2013 4:32:06 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Fiji Hill

But liberals have been cheering about the declining (white) birth rate.


3 posted on 01/19/2013 4:34:11 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Those who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Which means we have to immigrate more here.


4 posted on 01/19/2013 4:34:46 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: MinorityRepublican

Probably because all the younger people, who are not on welfare, are leaving the state to raise their children in an AMERICAN evironment that has an AMERICAN future....


5 posted on 01/19/2013 4:35:17 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: MinorityRepublican

One trip to the City of Los Angeles belies these statistics. I would agree that the White population is declining as this is typical of dying civilizations.


6 posted on 01/19/2013 4:36:55 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

Yeah they are cheering they can weed out those evil whites once and for all by importing more non-white. Of course muslims are the top pick.


7 posted on 01/19/2013 4:37:35 PM PST by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: MinorityRepublican

it’s nature’s way


8 posted on 01/19/2013 4:37:58 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: MinorityRepublican

Attrition of white babies is being compensated for by welcoming pregnant illegal aliens from Mexico and birthing their babies at the expense of the white families who can’t afford to have children of their own. SICK!


9 posted on 01/19/2013 4:39:57 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: MinorityRepublican

To me, the answer is obvious.
Need to offer more welfare benefits.
Let the fedgov guarantee California’s bonds and let the gravy gush.


10 posted on 01/19/2013 4:40:49 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: MinorityRepublican
With 3000 people leaving Kalifornica each day and welfare payments to illegals there are not enough tax paying persons to fund utopia.
11 posted on 01/19/2013 4:45:43 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Breed for the state, the tax base is shrinking.


12 posted on 01/19/2013 4:46:16 PM PST by ansel12 (Cruz said "conservatives trust Sarah Palin that if she says this guy is a conservative, that he is")
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To: MinorityRepublican

CA has a future????


13 posted on 01/19/2013 4:49:31 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

When the achievers are taxed to the point they are forced to restrict their families; and the parasites are rewarded for irresponsible procreation - you wind up with a condition that even a child can understand.

Too many parasites, and the Host will die. California is riddled with parasites of every kind - and the achievers are punished for achieving. The achievers who are able, are fleeing - thus, California is doomed to bankruptcy.

Personally, I don’t care - but unfortunately the parasites who finally destroy California will then spread to my state and destroy that too.


14 posted on 01/19/2013 4:51:53 PM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: MinorityRepublican

When the achievers are taxed to the point they are forced to restrict their families; and the parasites are rewarded for irresponsible procreation - you wind up with a condition that even a child can understand.

Too many parasites, and the Host will die. California is riddled with parasites of every kind - and the achievers are punished for achieving. The achievers who are able, are fleeing - thus, California is doomed to bankruptcy.

Personally, I don’t care - but unfortunately the parasites who finally destroy California will then spread to my state and destroy that too.


15 posted on 01/19/2013 4:52:02 PM PST by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’m leaving. I don’t care what happens to California....


16 posted on 01/19/2013 4:54:42 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The disaster of California circa 2013 stands as irrefutable proof that bigger and more populous is not necessarily better.


17 posted on 01/19/2013 4:56:40 PM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: MinorityRepublican

2012 CA K-12 school enrollment is about 6.2 million students. These students are a snapshot of CA’s future and unfortunately, many don’t appear to be on the road to becoming taxpayers.


18 posted on 01/19/2013 4:57:21 PM PST by umgud
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19 posted on 01/19/2013 5:02:18 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I’d say an increasing ILLEGAL birth rate, increasing taxes, increasing regulations, increasing gas prices, and increasing government would be the problem and why people are leaving.

But hey, believe what you want.


20 posted on 01/19/2013 5:05:57 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Yeah they are cheering they can weed out those evil whites once and for all by importing more non-white. Of course muslims are the top pick.

Problem for California is, those white kids have a tendency to grow up to be taxpayers. The illegal immigrant offspring, not so much. They're running out of other peoples' money!

21 posted on 01/19/2013 5:13:51 PM PST by meyer (When people fear the government, you have Tyranny)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Those gay couples had better get busy popping out babies.../sarc


22 posted on 01/19/2013 5:14:55 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: MinorityRepublican

>Declining birthrate poses challenge to California’s future<

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Import enough illegals from Mexico to get the desired quota.


23 posted on 01/19/2013 5:18:21 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
How about :

Skilled and able-bodied workers leaving CA poses challenge to California's future....

24 posted on 01/19/2013 5:44:27 PM PST by traumer
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To: EagleUSA
Younger people are leaving California in order to be able to afford to have children. It used to be somewhat affordable to live in California because you could depend on the value of your house going up year after year. You could take out a home equity loan to pay your mortgage.

No longer. If you live in California, you'll probably have to visit your grandchildren in another state.

25 posted on 01/19/2013 5:44:59 PM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I needed that, God bless, I laughed hard!


26 posted on 01/19/2013 6:16:09 PM PST by IslamE (epiphany)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Probably more because queers there have exceedingly low birth rates.


27 posted on 01/19/2013 6:44:40 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet
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28 posted on 01/19/2013 7:04:12 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Holy, holy, holy Lord God of hosts. Heaven and earth are full of your glory. Hosanna in the highest.)
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29 posted on 01/19/2013 7:04:45 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Holy, holy, holy Lord God of hosts. Heaven and earth are full of your glory. Hosanna in the highest.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Ruled by communists Democrats, California is finished. It will become the cess pool of America following NY.
30 posted on 01/19/2013 7:16:57 PM PST by Logical me
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To: MinorityRepublican

It’s not the declining birth rate that’s the problem. The problem is that all their children are being born with feet.


31 posted on 01/19/2013 7:25:01 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: MinorityRepublican

Maybe if so many hadn’t been scraped out of the mothers wombs.....


32 posted on 01/19/2013 7:29:14 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

“Attrition of white babies is being compensated for by welcoming pregnant illegal aliens from Mexico and birthing their babies at the expense of the white families who can’t afford to have children of their own. SICK!”

I guess you didn’t bother to actually read the article itself. Because it points out that HISPANIC BIRTHS in California have DECLINED at a greater rate than any other group!


33 posted on 01/19/2013 7:31:05 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Fiji Hill

Fiji, You are an absolute MORON! There are lots of areas of San Francisco where people raise their children successfully in decent neighborhoods. I don’t know what rock you live under but your moronic rhetoric suggests that it may be a place where the plumbing is outdoors.


34 posted on 01/19/2013 7:33:51 PM PST by vette6387
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To: MinorityRepublican

watch Demographic Winter at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxUD8E-qbyI&feature=youtube_gdata
There are VERY serious economic problems ahead. And Latino birth rate is crashing!


35 posted on 01/19/2013 7:45:24 PM PST by MassRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Chesterton on birth control/population control:

In 1925 Chesterton wrote an introduction to Charles Dickens’ A Christmas Carol in which he said that “The answer to anyone who talks about the surplus population is to ask him, whether he is part of the surplus population; or if not, how he knows he is not.”


36 posted on 01/19/2013 7:52:28 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Fiji, You are an absolute MORON! There are lots of areas of San Francisco where people raise their children successfully in decent neighborhoods. I don’t know what rock you live under but your moronic rhetoric suggests that it may be a place where the plumbing is outdoors.

OK, so which neighborhoods in Frisco are fabulous places to raise children? SOMA? The Castro District? Haight-Ashbury? The Mission District?

How about North Beach or Hunter's Point?

37 posted on 01/19/2013 8:10:03 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Fiji Hill
One place in California that ought to be totally devoid of kids is San Francisco.

That is an ignorant statement. The city is cosmopolitan and diverse. Although known for it's queers and assh*le politicians, the outer neighborhoods have normal family folks. One of my daughters lives in the Richmond district alongside GG Park with her husband and baby. Her choice, to be close to her tech job. The district is filled with baby strollers and children. The Sunset district has chinese families with kids. The outer Mission district has mexican and filipino families with kids. The Castro district has the queers and faggots, but is just one of many districts, although they are the loudest and most obnoxious. San Francisco did not even make the top of the list of gayest cities, that title passed on several years ago. I doubt that SF will soon return to being a republican city, which it was for more than half of the 20th century. But some normal people live here.

38 posted on 01/19/2013 8:10:27 PM PST by roadcat
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The Sunset, The Western Additon and Stonestown come to mind. But for me, the issue is your trash talk about a whole city. Sure there are places to be avoided in SF, but show me a large city where that’s not the case. And you come off with this BS about “oh don’t take your kids there, they might get tainted.” It’s just so beneath the dignity of FR and does nothing for the discourse. There are many cities that I would like to avoid, but San Francisco isn’t one of them. BTW, I guess you haven’t been to either Hunter’s Point or China Basin lately. The new construction in those areas is amazing. As for the Haight (where I was born 72 years ago) and the Castro, they may have lifestyles with which you may have a problem, but they don’t have an inordinately high crime rate. You don’t see violent crime of much consequence (like it’s not Chigago). I have a relative who works for one of the major commercial construction firms in SF. I am told that there is so much building going on that the city has had to relent on its policy of requiring that labor on city projects come from within the city confines because all those people are all already working. And I know it may well be an a problem for you ( I know it is for me) but there are no call lists in the union halls either. So while I don’t like the SF politics, I do like the city itself. And I take exception to the likes of you and your trash talk nonsense!


39 posted on 01/19/2013 8:42:53 PM PST by vette6387
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Well, I have seen with my own eyes people in Frisco walking around or riding their bikes naked—something I have never seen anywhere else in the world—so for that reason alone, I would never bring a kid there. And I wouldn’t want to bring kids anywhere near the “Gay Pride” parade or the Folsom or Dore Alley “street fairs”—check out the Americans for Truth website or do a keyword search on this board if you want more information. I’m not going to post racy pictures.


40 posted on 01/19/2013 9:16:48 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: vette6387
And you come off with this BS about “oh don’t take your kids there, they might get tainted.” It’s just so beneath the dignity of FR and does nothing for the discourse.

It's also beneath the dignity of FR to apply opprobrious epithets to those who disagree with you--as you did in your first response to me.

42 posted on 01/19/2013 9:22:20 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: AZLiberty

“Younger people are leaving California in order to be able to afford to have children,”

First reasonable post in the thread!


44 posted on 01/19/2013 9:46:12 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: MinorityRepublican

They have illegal children not to worry


45 posted on 01/20/2013 2:26:12 AM PST by ronnie raygun ( Lexington / Concord, America's first gun grab attempt)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Got to get more of them homosexuals to get hitched and then exhort them to be “fruit”ful and multiply...


46 posted on 01/20/2013 3:57:31 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: vette6387
Fiji, You are an absolute MORON! There are lots of areas of San Francisco where people raise their children successfully in decent neighborhoods. I don’t know what rock you live under but your moronic rhetoric suggests that it may be a place where the plumbing is outdoors.

Oh, so in other words, I'm an absolute fool of modest means from a rural community. But at least out here in my "red" county, kids have a better chance of becoming red-blooded, God-fearing, flag-waving patriots than those growing up in that "blue" city where you live.

47 posted on 01/20/2013 12:30:56 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: vette6387; roadcat; Fiji Hill

Sorry, Vette and Roadcat, but you fail to convince me. The queers and faggots aren’t just in the Castro—you’ll find them everywhere, even in the surrounding suburbs—they, and the panhandlers, winos, aging hippies known as “street people,” and “smash and grab” car burglars.

I’ve been all over San Francisco—from the Golden Gate to Candlestick Park, and from Fisherman’s Wharf to the Cliff House—and I say that it’s a modern-day Gomorrah.


48 posted on 01/21/2013 7:03:47 PM PST by Taft in '52
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I’ve been all over San Francisco—from the Golden Gate to Candlestick Park, and from Fisherman’s Wharf to the Cliff House—and I say that it’s a modern-day Gomorrah.

You're still making ignorant statements which highlights your idiocy. The locations you cite, are tourist attractions, and are not representative of the city. On any given day, those locations are full of outsiders from everywhere else but the city. I was born and raised in SF (when it was a republican city). It's outsider faggots from elsewhere that came here and ruined it's reputation.

Queers are hesitant to enter some neighborhoods lest they get beaten, which has actually happened often in the Mission and Bayview districts (resulting in some deaths). Some neighborhoods are fiercely pro-family and religious. The Castro district is, by all practical statistics the sole hedonistic Gomorrah type district you are thinking of. There are small pockets of filthy bums along Market, Haight Street and elsewhere. But for the most part, San Francisco is not much different than NYC and other major cities. I have seen far worse crap in Philly, Trenton, Atlantic City and other eastern cities. The one thing I do hate about SF is the liberal politicians, but hey, they're everywhere now.

49 posted on 01/21/2013 7:22:15 PM PST by roadcat
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I was using those tourist areas as geographical points of reference—Golden Gate to the north, Candlestick to the south, etc. I’ve been in many neighborhoods that are definitely not where tourists go, but I’ll admit I’ve never lived in San Francisco itself—couldn’t afford to if I wanted to.

It’s true that San Francisco feels safer than West Oakland—where I once got lost late at night—although in San Francisco, I always try to park on a busy street where my car is less likely to be burglarized. Piles of broken glass on some streets are not very reassuring.

But I have encountered plenty of weirdos in areas outside the Castro—a district that I have never visited.


50 posted on 01/21/2013 8:09:27 PM PST by Taft in '52
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