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Tony Lee: Palin Predicted Obama Using Health Care to Curb Second Amendment Rights
Conservatives4Palin ^ | January 19 2013 | Stacy Drake

Posted on 01/19/2013 7:36:56 PM PST by Bratch

Via Breitbart:

On August 1, 2009–just seven months into President Barack Obama’s first term–former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin predicted Obama would attempt to leverage health care to “take away” the Second Amendment rights of Americans.

In a speech to National Rifle Association members in Anchorage, Alaska, Palin said Americans should be “wary” of this “tie-in” because Obama would attempt to “take away our rights under the guise of some new health care plan”:

And by the way, [with] health care being so big in D.C. right now, be wary when some kind of tie-in occurs. Because it will crop up: a tie-in with guns in an attempt to take away our rights under the guise of some new health care plan. You know that this is coming–that the two issues will somehow crop up and they’ll be tied together. So we have to be very wary of that.

On Wednesday–more than three years after Palin’s warning–Obama did exactly what the former governor forecasted.

During a press conference wherein he issued 23 executive actions regarding guns and unveiled his gun control proposals, including a ban on so-called assault weapons, Obama said “doctors and other health care providers also need to be able to ask about firearms in their patients’ homes and safe storage of those firearms, especially if their patients show signs of certain mental illnesses or if they have a young child or mentally ill family member at home.”

To make it easier for doctors to do so, Obama also issued executive actions that would “clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes.” The White House also released “a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities.”

In Obama’s gun control plan, which the White House released on Wednesday, there is a section titled “Preserve The Rights of Mental Health Care Providers To Protect Their Patients and Communities From Gun Violence.”

It reads, “we should never ask doctors and other health care providers to turn a blind eye to the risks posed by guns in the wrong hands,” and proposes to:

• Clarify that no federal law prevents health care providers from warning law enforcement authorities about threats of violence: Doctors and other mental health professionals play an important role in protecting the safety of their patients and the broader community by reporting direct and credible threats of violence to the authorities. But there is public confusion about whether federal law prohibits such reports about threats of violence. The Department of Healthand Human Services is issuing a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibitsthese reports in any way.

• Protect the rights of health care providers to talk to their patients about gun safety: Doctors and other health care providers also need to be able to ask about firearms in their patients’ homes and safe storage of those firearms, especially if their patients show signs of certain mental illnesses or if they have a young child or mentally ill family member at home. Some have incorrectly claimed that language in the Affordable Care Act prohibits doctors from asking their patients about guns and gun safety. Medical groups also continue to fight against state laws attempting to ban doctors from asking these questions. The Administration will issue guidance clarifying that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit or otherwise regulate communication between doctors and patients, including about firearms.

The NRA, which filed a friend-of-the-court brief, said the Florida law “exhorts doctors to stick to practicing medicine… rather than pushing their own political agendas, and it protects patients from doctors who refuse to do so.”

More than three years ago in her speech (blogger “KentonAK” first revealed the existence of the footage), Palin noted–to the Alaska NRA members–she was the only person on either ticket during the 2008 election who was a lifetime member of the NRA.

You can read the entire article here.



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; banglist; deathpanels; guncontrol; guns; kenyanbornmuzzie; nra; obamacare; palin; partisanme; partisanmediashills; secondamendment
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Another Palin article.

Hmm.

1 posted on 01/19/2013 7:37:02 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Bratch

Any student of history can read the Zero like a book. He’s following a well thought out, well structured plan.

It’s been used before many times. It is being overlooked because it is developing day by day and not being viewed in a historical context.


2 posted on 01/19/2013 7:47:33 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Bratch; onyx; Abbeville Conservative; abigailsmybaby; afnamvet; alley cat; antceecee; ...
Ubama can't fool Sarah Ping!

She knows his ultimate leftist goals. (and most leftist goals end in several different mass graves, just saying)


3 posted on 01/19/2013 7:48:19 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Bratch; onyx; Abbeville Conservative; abigailsmybaby; afnamvet; alley cat; antceecee; ...
Ubama can't fool Sarah Ping!

She knows his ultimate leftist goals. (and most leftist goals end in several different mass graves, just saying)


4 posted on 01/19/2013 7:49:16 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

She’s absolutely the very best.
God bless and keep her and her precious family.


5 posted on 01/19/2013 7:54:45 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Bratch

Obuma’s empire is collapsing all around him, and the marxist reptile has no idea how to prop it up.

Too bad for Buckwheat.


6 posted on 01/19/2013 7:58:59 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: onyx
An American treasure. That we as a citizenry may never see her as President, nor as a Nation benefit from the massive and relentless conservative reforms she would establish, is a tragedy beyond words and tears.

God bless and keep her.

;-\

7 posted on 01/19/2013 8:01:07 PM PST by Gargantua ("Barbie O'Bunga ~ America's First Fly-Strewn, Maggot-Gagging Fag President")
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To: onyx
YES! ALWAYS! You Betcha!


8 posted on 01/19/2013 8:01:42 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Bratch

Not really surprising. When I go in for my annual physical here in Vermont, I get a list of questions to answer. My doctor is very good, and not a nutcase, but I believe the questionaire was developed by the Vermont medical association, or whatever it’s called.

It asks if you drink or smoke. For some years now it asks if you own a gun. recently it asks if you have throw rugs in the house, or furniture in your path as you go through a room. And of course it asks a number of obvious health and medical questions.

I would suggest that everybody just check NO on the gun, since all this stuff now goes into computers and is passed on to the government. Even if you’re a registered gun owner, this may make the information more easily available; and I don’t think there is any legal penalty for refusing to ‘fess up.

I don’t like to lie, but saying “N/A” or “none of your business” calls attention to yourself, and refusing the truth to a tyrannical government is not really morally culpable, I don’t think.


9 posted on 01/19/2013 8:02:47 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Gargantua
Amen.
I hate the lamestream and the RINO chief-tans like Rove.
10 posted on 01/19/2013 8:03:05 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: KC_Lion

She is blessed and deservedly so.


11 posted on 01/19/2013 8:04:06 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: onyx
She is...


12 posted on 01/19/2013 8:12:22 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Gargantua

It is indeed a tragedy. I’m all but convinced that the country has become too deeply corrupt and too degenerate to ever accept the kind of pro-Constitution reformist leadership Palin would bring. America is decaying, economically, morally and culturally... rapidly devolving beyond the means of salvage.

But what the heck, I’d still solidly and enthusiastically support Palin if she ran in 2016, even if as a fruitless, last gasp of harkening back to the things that once made the country so great.


13 posted on 01/19/2013 8:12:39 PM PST by greene66
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To: Bratch

Kind of reminds me of when Dan Quayle rightly pointed out the harmful decay of family life portrayed by Murphy Brown and Hollywood Exactly right, but the media narrative was so negative against him that no one acknowledged it til years later. All mainstream media could do was try to figure out how to make it a joke.


14 posted on 01/19/2013 8:22:22 PM PST by keyesguy
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To: Bratch; GregB

Thanks for the post Bratch...and Greg...thought you might be interested in this Palin article....a very good one and, of course, she was RIGHT on the money (again!) on ObamaCare and the 2nd Amendment!


15 posted on 01/19/2013 8:23:21 PM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Mourning in America.)
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To: Cicero

“I don’t like to lie, but saying “N/A” or “none of your business” calls attention to yourself, and refusing the truth to a tyrannical government is not really morally culpable, I don’t think.”

A Freeper on a previous thread made a comment on how to respond to doctors asking about having guns in the home to which I fully agree.

“Doctor, I do not discuss my personal or family security measures with anyone other than family members.”

If a doctor presses me, then I will assert my rights under the Fourth Amendment: “The right of people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

The doctor will have to show me a Law Enforcement Officer’s Badge and a Warrant for his “unreasonable search.”


16 posted on 01/19/2013 8:32:08 PM PST by Joe Marine 76 ("It's The Natural Born Citizenship, Stupid!")
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To: Cicero

I have no problem lying. I’ve never been asked about firearms but I’ll answer the same as I do about smoking or drinking. NO! Even tho I have an occasional cigar and wine or beer almost daily. I happen to believe beer and wine are quite healthy for a person but moron doctors don’t see it that way.


17 posted on 01/19/2013 8:33:02 PM PST by upsdriver ( Palin/West '16)
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To: Cicero
I don’t like to lie, but saying “N/A” or “none of your business” calls attention to yourself, and refusing the truth to a tyrannical government is not really morally culpable, I don’t think.

You're not obligated to provide information to anyone who has no right to it, especially if their use of it could possibly harm you at some later time. So, lie away!

18 posted on 01/19/2013 8:41:32 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Bratch.


19 posted on 01/19/2013 8:42:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Joe Marine 76

In Minnesota I had resorted to outright lying.
“Are there any guns in your home?”
“No! Guns are bad.”
Living up there was like living in a place that started to resemble someplace in Eastern Europe a few decades ago. Expected behavior was acting like a moonbat, hating Bush, supporting JF Kerry, and worshipping Obama. And that was the act to pass through the doctor’s office.
The good thing is I am now back in Texas. No doctor here has asked me any of those inane questions. I even had a Houston cop recommend an indoor range.


20 posted on 01/19/2013 9:08:41 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: KC_Lion

21 posted on 01/19/2013 9:22:59 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: KC_Lion

Just wondering, if anyone knows...

What make of shotgun is she holding in that pic?


22 posted on 01/19/2013 9:27:06 PM PST by Road Glide
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To: Cicero

You know, I’m in MN, and I’m starting to see this, too. Suddenly, the questionnaire’s seem very strange. I told a receptionist Friday that I had left some questions unanswered because it seemed to me that they were not pertinent to developing a picture of my health. She said, “That’s OK. We’re just trying to get to know you better.” It seemed ominous. Later, a nurse asked me some questions, too. I really felt like I was being spied on, like I was going to be reported to attackwatch.com. It was all freaky. Thanks for your post.


23 posted on 01/19/2013 9:33:53 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Road Glide

I think, a Mossberg.


24 posted on 01/19/2013 9:42:37 PM PST by hdbc (FUBO)
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To: onyx

Ditto that... I am truly amazed at so called conservatives I see here who continue to trash this patriot. They will reap what they sow...looks like we are well on the way to that.


25 posted on 01/19/2013 9:52:02 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Gargantua

Your post - #7 - is so good, it brought tears to my eyes. And almost nothing does that any more.


26 posted on 01/19/2013 9:54:17 PM PST by CatDancer (Where the spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty. 2 Cor.3:17)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

My Doctors suddenly need a pix of me. They have cameras hooked up to the front desk PC.

I have said no. I cannot conceive of an instance where a pic of me would be necessary.

At the eye doctor, the lady said, “Okay, we’ll make a note that you declined the picture.” I said, “You do that.” :)


27 posted on 01/19/2013 9:55:43 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

Just answer NOYB... NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.


28 posted on 01/19/2013 9:57:12 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: CatDancer

My FB profile picture is me standing next to her cardboard cutout in the Skagway Alaska Sarah Palin store.

I absolutely adore her. Anyone who speaks badly of her is dead to me.


29 posted on 01/19/2013 10:00:56 PM PST by bicyclerepair ( >-> Zombies eat brains. >-> 50% of FL is safe.)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

When these newest Executive Orders were signed, I wondered if there was even one doctor in MN the I could go to that I felt I could trust. You know of one, let me know too!


30 posted on 01/19/2013 10:02:51 PM PST by MNGal
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To: antceecee

I’ve stopped reading the comments on her threads. Too many idiots, just like you said.


31 posted on 01/19/2013 10:03:03 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: MestaMachine

Beautiful and prefect!
Thanks so very much, sweet MM!


32 posted on 01/19/2013 10:04:29 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: sergeantdave

Collapsing all around him? Goodness gracious, I wish I could see that. I’m living an alternate reality where he is strengthening his empire, and I am losing hope.


33 posted on 01/19/2013 11:12:33 PM PST by definitelynotaliberal
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To: MestaMachine

Great picture!


34 posted on 01/19/2013 11:22:20 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: Gargantua
Just think - if McCain doesn't select her, she would have been allowed to build up a solid conservative record, particularly on energy issues, without being molested by relented liberal attacks. She also, presumably, would have been much better prepped to run and had her own (not McCain's traiterous crew) surrounding her.

Imagine the rock star reception from 2008 combined with 6 years of being a governor with a solidly conservative record. We'd be talking about President Palin at this point.

35 posted on 01/19/2013 11:30:28 PM PST by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: meadsjn

Have you EVER seen a bad picture of Sarah Palin? She could be wearing michelle obama’s clothes and still look good.


36 posted on 01/19/2013 11:39:49 PM PST by MestaMachine (Sometimes the smartest man in the room is standing in the midst of imbeciles.)
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To: definitelynotaliberal; Cicero

How about a questionnaire that asks about your religion? That’s a new one.


37 posted on 01/19/2013 11:42:42 PM PST by thecodont
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To: MestaMachine

Yes, but I don’t believe she would. :)


38 posted on 01/20/2013 12:12:41 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: thecodont

Ya know, I have seen and answered that question for years...but until now it didn’t disturb me. What a weird world we live in where a question that was intended to provide succor in times of extreme illness now becomes a question that potentially means persecution.


39 posted on 01/20/2013 5:32:31 AM PST by pepperdog ( I still get a thrill up my leg when spell check doesn't recognize the name/word Obama!)
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To: MestaMachine; onyx
Have you EVER seen a bad picture of Sarah Palin?

Nope!

She is Super Photogenic!

Sarah Palin has more leadership and courage than Joan of Arc, Thatcher or the Elizabethan queen. But Sarah’s beauty is many times greater than of those women and her understanding of freedom and conservatism makes her far above these women of history


40 posted on 01/20/2013 6:21:06 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Fred Hayek

My other concern apart from the doctors is what position the sheriffs will take.

We live in a rural county of NC and we have a good sheriff. A Democrat but conservative and a good guy. I haven’t heard what he plans to do if the “Gun Grab” commences.

I pray he has the good sense to uphold the Constitution. We have A LOT of hunters around here!


41 posted on 01/20/2013 6:51:47 AM PST by Joe Marine 76 ("It's The Natural Born Citizenship, Stupid!")
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To: GreatOne

If he didn’t pick Sarah, could you imagine the impacts of 2010 and 2012 without her influences? She’d be up in Alaska, out of site, out of mind, and facing all sorts of barriers. She’s exposed the crime lords of DC (MSM, GOPe) for the true frauds they surely are.

SHE got me back into the fight!!!!

Sorry, no time machines or second guessing God’s will.


42 posted on 01/20/2013 7:01:46 AM PST by Kolath
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To: definitelynotaliberal
like I was going to be reported to attackwatch.com. It was all freaky. Thanks for your post.

They probably just want to post them on their website: peopleyoushouldgetangrywithbecausetheyliveanunhealthylifestyleandincreaseyourhealtcarecosts.org

43 posted on 01/20/2013 8:05:36 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

And yet, we have 535 members of Congress and not one of them predicted, yet they all swear they’re smarter and more qualified than Gov. Palin to be president.


44 posted on 01/20/2013 8:08:50 AM PST by rabidralph (http://www.cafepress.com/westernwis)
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To: antceecee
I am truly amazed at so called conservatives I see here who continue to trash this patriot.

It's because she's not "perfect" in their view.

45 posted on 01/20/2013 8:28:41 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Right Wing Assault; onyx
It's because she's not "perfect" in their view.

Whoa! Hold on now, she may not be perfect, but they can surely COMPROMISE their positions.

Otherwise the Democrat will win and we can't have that.

After all we all have to vote occasionally for someone we don't want to, surly the GOP people will accept Sarah as our nominee and make sure other Republicans fall in line.


46 posted on 01/20/2013 10:44:51 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

Hey, isn’t that the guy who really didn’t want to run for POTUS after all, but was talked into it?


47 posted on 01/20/2013 10:48:37 AM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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To: greene66
America is decaying, economically, morally and culturally... rapidly devolving beyond the means of salvage.

So, so wrong ... as long as people are humans, it's salvageable. All of that decay -- economic, cultural, moral -- boatloads of of it is the direct result of government interference from all directions, be it a well-organized screaming liberal education system, or labor, health and safety, tax, enrivonmental, and who knows how many other niggling regulations and laws that stifle business growth and employment. Heck, a teenaged kid doesn't even have the right to tell the government to get lost, that he's perfectly okay with apprenticing at the garage down the street for whatever he damned well will accept, and if it's below "minimum wage," whose business is that? See, kids don't have that freedom now. Government has made a horrific impact on morality and culture with "minimum wage" laws alone.

There's fabulous potential for salvage. The first step is to reclaim local territory over the government in terms of personal rights.

These are approaching risky times. Risk is the price you pay for opportunity.

48 posted on 01/20/2013 3:22:23 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: sergeantdave
Obuma’s empire is collapsing all around him, and the marxist reptile has no idea how to prop it up.

Not to argue with you but I would disagree with your statement. The MSM is successfully doing everything in its power to keep him relevant and portray him as the great messiah.........

49 posted on 01/20/2013 3:25:57 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Any student of history can read the Zero like a book. He’s following a well thought out, well structured plan.

Yes, he is.

Why do you think they don't teach history in school anymore?

50 posted on 01/20/2013 3:27:52 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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