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If this surprises you in ANY way, YOU HAVE NOT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION.

We are 100% the Soviet Union at this point. Probably have been, since the 1990's.

1 posted on 01/20/2013 6:08:11 AM PST by Lazamataz
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Then the point of Miranda would be........? This is almost amusing, it flies not only in the face of Miranda, but also the 5th amendment.


2 posted on 01/20/2013 6:11:52 AM PST by RobertClark (It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark and we'r)
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To: Lazamataz
S**t, dawg, you already know the outcome of THIS case:

'Silence is the ultimate indicator of guilt, and anyone who is silent, will be deemed guilty of the new crime, "Concealment of the Truth, Aggravated, in the First Degree." '

3 posted on 01/20/2013 6:13:37 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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How can this even be a question? The Supremes in their very own Miranda Decision articulated "the right to remain silent". If that action is punished with an assumption of guilt, then it is not a right. As a rule-of-law conservatism, not the lynch-the-accused fiction created by far left extremists, I find that reprehensible.

Fifth Amendment: "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

5 posted on 01/20/2013 6:16:55 AM PST by Pollster1
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Vee are going to ask you some questions. You will respond, "Yes" in answer to all the questions. If you do not respond, "Yes" in answer to a question, there will be verrrrrry serious consequences...

I guess the next step is to determine that silence is an indication of guilt even if you aren't being considered suspect in any crime.

6 posted on 01/20/2013 6:17:36 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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Thomas More in A Man for All Seasons:

7 posted on 01/20/2013 6:19:19 AM PST by TomGuy
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I am not surprised the SCOTUS will hear the case....the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals let this “silence as guilt” into evidence and hopefully the court will throw out this ruling...

It is the SCOTUS job to clean up lower courts screwed up rulings...

Let’s hope they don’t muddy the waters on the 5 th amendment


8 posted on 01/20/2013 6:19:27 AM PST by JZoback
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Prosecute POSOTUS (Benghazi, Fast & Furious, etc., etc.) and 535 in congress.

TREASON - in real-time, pre-meditated, in-your-face, unquestioned, abetted, unchecked, continuous, ongoing...

We are being triangulated by TOTALITARIANS. Check$ and Balance$.

Thanks for posting, Laz.


10 posted on 01/20/2013 6:24:16 AM PST by PGalt
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This would prove Boama guilty!
12 posted on 01/20/2013 6:24:58 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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You only have the right to remain silent after the LEO reads you that right? Hahahahahah! This is rich. If I am going to be treated as guilty... gosh... maybe I ought to at least do something... I got it... lets get drunk and take a Rigid pipe citter and deadhead some parking meters.


13 posted on 01/20/2013 6:26:19 AM PST by Rodamala
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It is common sense to not talk to police, except in consultation with your attorney, if there is any possibility that the police are looking at charging you with anything.


16 posted on 01/20/2013 6:27:18 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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The 5th Amendment was always kind of silly anyway, right?


17 posted on 01/20/2013 6:28:04 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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If you refuse to incriminate yourself, you are guilty, Guilty, GUILTY!!!!


19 posted on 01/20/2013 6:31:29 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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Mark 15

....The chief priests accused him of many things. 4 So again Pilate asked him, “Aren’t you going to answer? See how many things they are accusing you of.”

5 But Jesus still made no reply, and Pilate was amazed.


20 posted on 01/20/2013 6:31:47 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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cop: “strangely enough, no... he was not silent. he just kept repeating the Constitution and the bill of rights, which he seems to have memorized.”

which is the same as:

nazi/commie: “we couldn’t get anything out of him... he kept repeating his name, rank, and serial number.”


22 posted on 01/20/2013 6:36:16 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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Now you can be convicted on the strength of what you DON’T say?????? I went to sleep last night in a declining America and woke up this morning in Wonderland!


23 posted on 01/20/2013 6:38:00 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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The British version of the Miranda warning:

You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something which you later rely on in court. Anything you do say may be given in evidence.

There is clearly a certain amount of commonsense in the British version. It you concoct an innocent account of what one its face appears to suspicious conduct or circumstances after the event, your failure to offer this explanation at the time "may harm your defence".

24 posted on 01/20/2013 6:39:59 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Please, don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion.)
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How does it go: If you float you're guilty, if you sink you're innocent?

If there isn't a unanimous decision on this one, we should consider removal of some judges. How is that done at the Supreme Court level?

31 posted on 01/20/2013 6:47:04 AM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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A positive side effect of this ridiculousity is that a vote by the Supremes will REALLY smoke them all out.

This is an issue even the low-information morons can figure out.

Leni

40 posted on 01/20/2013 7:04:53 AM PST by MinuteGal (Send a penny NOW to CNN, 1 Time-Warner Center, NY,NY 10019 for "PENNIES FOR LEAVING!" (Piers Morgan))
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How ironic. The Fifth Amendment protections of no self-incrimination grew out of the legal shift away from widespread use of torture and forced confessions in late 16th and early 17th century in England. At the time, anyone refusing to take the oath ex officio mero (confessions or swearing of innocence, usually before hearing any charges) was considered guilty. Suspected Puritans were pressed to take the oath and then reveal names of other Puritans. Coercion and torture were commonly used to compel "cooperation."

The Puritans, who were at the time fleeing to the New World, began a practice of refusing to cooperate with interrogations.

So, Democrats, by overthrowing the Fifth Amendment and the right of no self-incrimination, would essentially be condoning a return to torture and forced confessions -- the very thing they used to beat Bush over the head with for eight years.

Hypocrisy, thy name is "Democrat."

44 posted on 01/20/2013 7:19:30 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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Don't stay silent.
"I don't recall" will cover it.
Concussion helps.
45 posted on 01/20/2013 7:21:50 AM PST by sasquatch
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