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Obama Comes Out Swinging For Second Term [Next Four Years: America Beyond Redemption?]
LATimes ^ | January 20, 2013 | David Lauter

Posted on 01/20/2013 9:28:48 AM PST by Steelfish

Obama Comes Out Swinging For Second Term Dropping talk of bipartisanship, the president seeks to fragment the Republican opposition as he presses his policies on gun control, spending and immigration.

By David Lauter January 19, 2013 WASHINGTON — In President Obama's first term, a promise of bipartisanship withered on stony ground; as his second begins, he has openly embraced confrontation.

On a parade of hot-button political issues, including the budget, gun control and immigration, Obama has begun to hammer on weak points in the Republican coalition.

He has made little effort to woo members of the opposition in Congress, whose positions he has characterized publicly as "intransigent," "extreme" and "absurd." Instead, he appears intent on dividing them.

That approach has unified Democrats, who remain staunchly supportive of the president, while exacerbating splits in Republican ranks, according to polls. While the strategy involves considerable risk, Obama and his aides seem convinced it offers their best hope of winning major legislative victories in an era of deep partisan divisions in Washington and in the wider electorate.

The administration wants to "stay away from inside-the-Beltway, elite negotiations and try to pursue an outside-in strategy, where the president seeks to mobilize public opinion and put pressure on a minority of Republicans," said William Galston of the Brookings Institution, a public policy think tank.

The idea, he said, is to find weak spots in the GOP coalition, then "stick a wedge into the crack and wiggle it back and forth until it breaks."

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KEYWORDS: corruption; democrats; getintheirfaces; obama; obamalied; obamunism; thechicagoway; tyranny
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To: Blue Highway

“I still don’t quite fathom the idea of a liberal jew? Do they hate their own heritage of jews in Israel? Would they support the enemies of Israel over their own “brethren” being they are both jews? Not very logical but liberals never are.”

Nothing to do with that. They are ivory tower Socialists. I know, I lived with them for a year in Israel. They are more concerned with ideology than religion and heritage.

These were the Jews Hitler wanted to get rid of. The rest of us were collateral damage.

21 posted on 01/20/2013 9:56:06 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I own a weapon to protect my family from those wanting to take that weapon away.)
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To: Blue Highway

I worked with a liberal Jew. He was a proud communist as were his parents (they didn’t try to hide it). They observed some traditions and holidays but for him it was not due to any strong religious belief. He had a brother that lived in Isreal and went to visit sometimes, but I don’t know what he thought about the nation of Isreal as I was afraid to ask.

22 posted on 01/20/2013 9:56:30 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Steelfish


Conservatives and supporters of the 2nd amendment the Obama regime is using the 2nd amendment argument to blame gun owners for its inability to deal with the hundreds of gangland murders and shootings commited in areas under their solid control using illegally obtained firearms.

Obama’s solution to those inner city problems is to remove those rights provided by the constitution to have and bear arms from all US citizens.

None of those 23 so called “reforms” and unconstitutional efforts being edicted by who some call an emperor do not deal with the following issues briefly outlined below .

They won’t because instead of creating a uniformly democratic society where every citizen has an equal voice no matter what their race or ethnicity.

Obama’s policies have divided races and ethnic groups gerrymandering congressional districts where much of this criminal activity occurs. GOPES {goverment of the people (republican party) elites} see this issue as a 3rd rail because most of it is black on black or illegal vs illegal (Mexican) activity .

GOPES are also afraid to say that policy also increased racial tension which has resited in deaths. But again GOPES accept this because of the influence of mainline socialist media which would be accusing them of “racism” if they dare to question it.

The purpose of all this hype on guns is to keep the right and conservatives focused on what the Demo-Coms describe as issues through their propaganda arm known as the MSM (mainline socialist media) not on the problems created by the “Libs” on their road of good intentions or the socialist/fascists/communists successors to comtrol over todays Democrat party; Which is the cost ,waste, and corruption of his administration which had led to a 16 trillion dollar deficit.

Not one word will address or offer a solution about the hundreds of gangland murders and shootings using illegaly obtained mostly handguns and revolvers .Using code words like “assault rifles” which are really single shot per trigger pull semi automatic rifles, used for small game hunting or target practice. That are legal in every state but made to look like their military counterpart..Called AR’s since Viet Nam and a DOD decision ARs are really medium caliber (22.3) machine guns designed to wound not necessarilly kill which is why they are automatic and fire as many rounds that are in its magazine once the trigger is kept in the pulled position. .They replace quick kill 30 caliber semi automatic (single shot) M-1, Springfield rifles and carbines used during WWII and Korea and approved in most states for use in big game hunting. NY Post pix of shooter using handgun

Obama certainly can’t critique a system created by his ilk .Ignored in his 23 edicts is that when once caught, perps get set free with lenient sentencing from “liberal” judges or sob sister plea bargain prosecution (which Obama supports for when a Illinois state senator while introducing legislation to sentence any 15 year old as an adult, Obama voted “absent” with others on roll call ) promoted by the MSM,The New York Times CNN, NBC and,ABC. There’s certainly no criticism of “no snitch” mentality partcularly in areas where these shootings are rampant.

It would be nice at these rallys if speakers would point these facts out to Obamas adoring public about those phoney claims

When is the treatment of American citizens in Mexico and their rights vs US treatment of Mexicans going to be an issue when we discuss amnesty ?

Ever hear of reciprocal aggrements ? These are arranged to protect the rights of American citizens working or living in other countries.

Why is it when it comes to citizens of other countries we are required to offer them the same privledges as we do to US citizens? But when it comes to US citizens who get in trouble or attempt to do business in other countries they do not get the same treatment their citizens get.

Americans can’t own coast land in Mexico. And get no title to it elsewhere. If they run out of cash they’ll get unceremoniously sent back or put in jail untill some relative comes up with the “fresh”. That’s just for starters as for granting them voting privledges yea let’s give Mexican citizens that right when American citizens vote in their elections .

23 posted on 01/20/2013 9:58:44 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Should the "mechanic" from Chicago come out of retirement ?)
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To: BenLurkin

The left is far more vulnerable to fractures than the right.

We’ve just got to learn to spot the cracks and exploit them endlessly.

24 posted on 01/20/2013 10:00:26 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Steelfish

Obama bipartisanship = my way or the highway ( executive order).

Fascist dictators such as Obama need to be ridiculed, despite those doing so being branded as “rascists.”

25 posted on 01/20/2013 10:07:00 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(
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To: Yardstick

Funny how the same press that sold Obama to the country as a hopey-changey uniter has done a heelspin and is now delighting in the prospect of Obama as hammer and tongs vanguisher of the opposition party.
Very good post. The MSM and Obama have a lot in common. They both embrace the same ideology, mendacity and hypocrisy.

26 posted on 01/20/2013 10:07:09 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Steelfish

Do you see the line that these idiots on the left are goign in? They are attemptign to ban guns and trample rights on the basis that ‘a law abidign person ‘may at soem point’ becoem a law breakign citizen’ and that ‘they should not be allowed the ‘tools’ to become law breakers’ kkkuomo is actually doing htis very thing by requiring mental health evaluations for everyone who owns a gun or wants a gun- and you can bet your farm that the evaluators WILL FIND soem ‘potential red flags’ (Whether they take hte guns away immediately, or not, is not the issue- the fact is that there will be little footnotes at the bottom of the evaluations ‘for further use’ when confiscations begin.

[[We are becoming more Socialist and losing civil liberties and economic freedoms]]

We’re goign to have to coem to grips with this fact- because apaprnetly, thetre are NOT enough peopel in htis coutnry willing ot stand up agaisnt tyranny any longer- the govenrment promisses a $200 dollar a year ‘stimulus check’ and Americans think they are beign handed the world and are willign ot give up all manner of rights in order to ‘git dat check’

America spokel oud and clear thsi lastr election- they said they want gubmint freebies more than they want truth, justice, and constitutional rights- This country is becoming majority imigrant- whether legal or illegal- majority leftist-

Unless an organized cocnerted EFFECTIVE effort begins to encourage non violent means of resistence comes along, this country IS goign to sldie down hte sewer hole- it’s already 3/4 the way down the crapper in a lot of states-

27 posted on 01/20/2013 10:13:55 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Steelfish
"Next Four Years: America Beyond Redemption?".....We may see tomorrow following the Inaugaral Prayer Breakfast address by Jonathan Cahn - writer of "The Harbinger."

He will illustrate the conflict; a nation that chooses God and His Providence or a nation that rejects the same. The Dems have tried to lead us the "other" way with 3 strikes against God during their convention.

We shall see......what say you America?

28 posted on 01/20/2013 10:16:25 AM PST by wesagain (The God (Elohim) of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is the One True GOD.)
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To: MinuteGal

It looks like our only hope is that Obama over-reaches...and I’m not too sure even that would work.
When our creditors come to the realizaton that the debt is simply unsustainable and there is increasing risk of being paid back with devalued money the dollar will take a hit and the jig will be up. The bond vigilantes will deband higher interest rates which will explode the deficit with rising interest payments. I think that’s a scenario that will will bring down Obama (no thanks to the weak kneed Republicrats).

29 posted on 01/20/2013 10:19:42 AM PST by Starboard
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To: albie

When I consider that Boehner is his chief adversary “girl-fight” comes to mind. ;-)

30 posted on 01/20/2013 10:26:05 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: EQAndyBuzz; Rusty0604

ahhh, so they are JINOs (jews in name only) then? I don’t see how they could even have the audacity to call themselves a jew. I have a similar view of how the current far left liberal can call themselves an American.

31 posted on 01/20/2013 10:33:38 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: MinuteGal
proverbial knight on a white horse to come riding in to save us, to lead us, to rally us, to inspire us.

Wasn't that supposed to have been Romney, then Boehner, now I guess Christie?? Pretty soon, we're going to find that, thanks in part to the inept choices of Republican primary voters, there are no leaders who can take charge.

32 posted on 01/20/2013 10:41:12 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Steelfish

I do wonder if we’ve gone over the cliff with so many people being supported by or working for government at all levels.

“They” have the votes. Have we lost?

33 posted on 01/20/2013 10:58:34 AM PST by unique3
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To: Steelfish
Obama Comes Out Swinging

34 posted on 01/20/2013 11:04:30 AM PST by mikrofon (Par for the course)
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To: Yardstick

That has been the objective all the time, you know. To drive the conservative movement in this country down so far, they will be discouraged for all time and just wither away.

To do this, the ‘Progressives’ have been using incremental means, stepping up the ratchet a little at a time, until suddenly, we are bowed over backwards.

They think us helpless, but that is only their own perception. Mahatmas Gandhi, that idol so greatly exalted by the leftists, was the very picture of civil disobedience.

But there was one major difference between what Gandhi was compelled to do by the limitations put upon him and the philosophy he held dear, and the oppressed conservatives in the territory once known as the United States of America. The British had disarmed the indigeous people of India, and forced the subjection to the British Crown. They did this by a system of maintaining military outposts across the world, and exacting tribute from those lands they held as colonies in the form of raw materials and trade deals. Most of the time, these deals were fairly arrived at, but to assure that there would be no repetitions of the experience with the North American colonies, the British encouraged the subjects to move relatively freely between the homeland of Great Britain and the other crown colonies.

Gandhi was well acquainted with the concepts of British law, and first moved within those rules to win greater home freedoms for India. But he very shortly bumped up against some extremely powerful vested interests, and found his causes pretty much ending up ignored or subverted.

Most of the British Empire had never known anything like parliamentary government, or election of high officials, or political parties, or anything of the sort. So the British empire was, inadvertantly, planting the seeds of its own later dissolution. The colonies and territories that had once been unaware of the potential for exercise of nationalist power, were awakened to it and proceeded to make life, if not difficult, at least expensive for the British Crown.

Driven to desperation, Gandhi, speaking for a goodly portion of the people of India, had to confront the British using interpretations of their own legal system that step by step, drove out the British control. But it involved a readiness to risk imprisonment for exercise of those beliefs, and Gandhi was the leading example of how that method was to be applied.

The resistance proved to be effective, and the British, diminished and weakened by engaging in a world-wide war, finally surrendered almost all of its empire, which at one time had stretched in a belt all the way around the globe.

It turned out, Gandhi was a much better revolutionary than governor, and India was wracked by more trouble and dissention AFTER the British left, than it ever had before, as there was no way to settle the rift between the Muslim and non-Muslim populations, which resulted in the separation of the Republic of India from the Republic of Pakistan. Pakistan was originally in two geographically widely separated parts, the eastern portion finally was granted separate recognition as Bangladesh.

The people of India had to rearm themselves, just to keep this separation from boiling over into an endless mob riot. Not everybody was armed, of course, but the peace between Pakistan and India, uneasy though it is at times, was further enforced by the sure knowledge that invasion of either one by the other would lead to massive resistance in the territories in dispute.

And that is what we now have in this country. The conservative movement is at an uneasy truce with the Current Regime in the White Hut, which could go away very quickly. There shall never be agreement, or meaningful compromise, that will bring a real and lasting peace between the two factions. So several options are open.

One is to rise up and crush the arrogance of the Current Regime and Bronco Bama, which may be a fools’ errand, considering the lack of concern among so many people who, although they were born within the territory once known as the United States of America, have no feeling of empathy for that notion of a set of ideals that reigned over this land for more than two centuries. A futile task at best, and one that could not be accomplished without vast expenditure of time, toil, blood, tears, and sweat. And there would STILL be a vast number of unconverted minds.

Joining the majority by a total surrender of personal morality and individual initiative only exacerbates the problem, and demonstrates the effectiveness of their methods. Choosing the lesser of two evils is still evil.

The one I personally like best, is declaration of a separate nation, one in which the historic values of that entity once known as the United States of America still live and flourish. Secession has NEVER been declared to be illegal, in a court of law. It was only brought to a stop before by superior force of arms and economic embargo.

Draw a line between the so-called “red” districts, and so-called “blue” districts, based not on state lines, but in congressional districts or even by counties. Delcare the “red” part a separate nation, governed by the old rules enshrined in the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution. The “blue” districts, fragmented little pockets they are, may just go ahead and set up whatever set of cockamamie rules they want to live by, and keep their noses out of how the “red” nation chooses to provide for its citizens.

35 posted on 01/20/2013 11:05:24 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: alloysteel

How do you change the minds of a deaf, blind, and dumb electorate? With all the litany of catastrophic Obama disasters (mountains of debt, deficits, unemployment, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, corruption, Solyndras, Affirmative Action, liberal judicial appointments, low military morale, spiraling minority unemployment, inner city decay, Obamacare mess, strangulating government regulations, Tens of Millions of $$s for Planned Parenthood; PBS) in the first term, they voted him again! and if he’s allowed to run a third term, they’d vote him again. Why? A nation of idiots run by idiots, and elected by idiots.

36 posted on 01/20/2013 12:20:14 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish

Awesome. Bring it, scumbag. Destroy your party’s rep. I love it.

37 posted on 01/20/2013 4:56:43 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Proud2BeRight

[[I believe the number of parasites and permanent brainwashed socialists have now surpassed the rest of us so they are in power to stay.]]

Thatr’s very true- NY is provign this to be spot on accurate- NY has a golden opportunity to be patriotic by resisting the unconstitutional grab of their guns, but sadly they will nnot resist- Oh, they’ll sit baCK and watch a couple of lawers try and fail and ‘cheer them on’- but they have a perfect opportunity to show EVERY state and federal govrnment that the governments WORK FOR US- NOT the other way around!!! But liek you said- these socialists will NOT fight for their rights

38 posted on 01/21/2013 9:43:06 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Proud2BeRight

We are simply are divided as a country.

39 posted on 01/22/2013 3:59:56 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Steelfish

Look for a second American civil war to happen in our lifetime.

40 posted on 01/22/2013 4:01:52 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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