Skip to comments.‘Voice of the Pope’ backs Obama gun edicts
Posted on 01/20/2013 11:34:19 AM PST by Nachum
In an editorial aired yesterday on Vatican Radio, Fr. Federico Lombardi, director of the press office of the Holy See, called initiatives announced by the United States government in view of limiting and controlling the diffusion and use of arms a step in the right direction.
Forty-seven religious leaders of various confessions and religions have issued a call to American politicians to limit firearms, which are making society pay an unacceptable price in terms of massacres and senseless deaths, Lombardi stated in his address. Im with them.
While acknowledging that arms, throughout the world, are also instruments for legitimate defense, and even admitting No one can be under the illusion that limiting their number and use would be enough to impede horrendous massacres in the future, Lombardi nonetheless asserted it is necessary to repeat tirelessly our calls for disarmament, to oppose the production, trade, and smuggling of arms of all types.
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Do not let the NRA hear that!
Who cares? The Pope does not vote in America. He holds no office.
The Pope should be more worried about his church dwindling to nothing in Europe and leave politics in America to Americans.
The Pope should not play with evil like that.
Those who desire control always favor gun restrictions and the church has a long history of wanting control.
It is really none of their business.
Christ did not carry a sword but we know two of his disciples did. We also know that Peter carried one as he used it to slice off the ear of one of the soldiers who came to arrest Christ.
It seems to have been something which Christ had no problem with nor did he demand they carry one. He did ask for swords from his disciples but that was just to carry out prophecy.
please do read the article. It isn’t the Pope who said anything. It was a priest who spoke for himself.
Two things to consider: they get all their information about the US from our press; and Lombardi is an Italian leftist who has gotten the Pope into trouble several times by making statements that reflected his personal take on things and had nothing to do with the Pope.
I think the Pope was close to getting rid of him a couple if years ago, but for some reason (probably feeling there were more important battles) he didn’t.
Sounds more like the voice of the Evil One ! shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
Look for “pressure” coming from “conservative” Catholics to ask the Vatican to have Lombardi disciplined.
“Look for pressure coming from conservative Catholics to ask the Vatican to have Lombardi disciplined.”
Correction: Look for pressure coming from conservative American Catholics to ask the Vatican to have Lombardi disciplined.
Is this the Mouth of the Pope?
She was able to do so because she was armed for protection and security.
I don't get it. Or, maybe they don't get it.
The false profit and the anti-christ, who would have known?
In his Encyclical Letter from 1995, EVANGELIUM VITAE, Pope John Paul II writes:
"......Christian reflection has sought a fuller and deeper understanding of what God's commandment prohibits and prescribes. There are in fact situations in which values proposed by God's Law seem to involve a genuine paradox. This happens for example in the case of legitimate defense, in which the right to protect one's own life and the duty not to harm someone else's life are difficult to reconcile in practice. Certainly, the intrinsic value of life and the duty to love oneself no less than others are the basis of a true right to self-defense."
He goes on to say:
"...legitimate defense can be not only a right but a grave duty for someone responsible for another's life, the common good of the family or of the State. Unfortunately, it happens that the need to render the aggressor incapable of causing harm sometimes involves taking his life. In this case, the fatal outcome is attributable to the aggressor whose actions brought it about, even though he may not be morally responsible because of a lack of the use of reason."
Pope John Paul II knew exactly what happens when innocents are disarmed, having lived under both Nazism and communism. He did not believe in disarming citizens and neither does the Catholic Church, this spokesperson's personal opinion notwithstanding.
I sent that to my Priest yesterday, I haven’t heard back yet doubt I ever do.
Catholics are having enough trouble with the Church today without stirring up American gun owners.
If they want empty pews, keep screwing around with America’s Freedoms.
Another sell out from the vatican. I head a lot of big talk, but never seem to see big abortion guys like Cuomo, Pelosi, or the Kennedy’s excommunicated. They totally back the illegal mexican flood into the US, now they back gun control. They sure seem to have very little respect for the US Constitution or culture.
The Vatican isn’t about the individual and his rights. It is about fleecing the peons and trying to assert itself as supreme authority in their lives. That’s why the Vatican is so rich while so many of its faithful are so desperately poor.
Baloney, he spoke for the pope, unless i hear the pope fire him, discipline him, or force him disavow his opinion from that of the pope’s.
“In an editorial aired yesterday on Vatican Radio, Fr. Federico Lombardi, director of the press office of the Holy See”
He is the Press office director of the Vatican. It’s a little far out to think that in a disciplined organization like that, in the position he holds, that he is out freelancing opinions -in editorials- that are in direct oppositon to those of the pope.
If he doesn’t release something fast saying “this was my opinion, and i was wrong” or “the pope supports the American freedoms that saved the Vatican and millions of catholics from the nazis”. Then i think it’s safe to assume the pope shares his opinion.
Well, having read the FR Religion Forum, I can assure everyone of these things:
* the spokesman has been poorly catechized
* the spokesman does not speak for The Church
* the sources reporting this are lying
* y’all are just Catholic haters
That should clear up any confusion!
Good isn’t attracted to evil and never agrees with it; only evil is attracted to evil and agrees with it with no problem voicing it to the world - even when it’s none of his business.
> Another sell out from the vatican. I head a lot of big
> talk, but never seem to see big abortion guys like Cuomo,
> Pelosi, or the Kennedys excommunicated. They totally back
> the illegal mexican flood into the US, now they back gun
> control. They sure seem to have very little respect for the
> US Constitution or culture.
One wonders if most Catholics voted for Hussein.
OMG This exclusive from a “Vatican Insider”...Who said what ? This guys flapping his gums and probably votes socialist in Iti elections. He’s not even a pointy hat but I wonder which pointy hat over here he’s talking to, probably some Jesuit.
Pay no attention folks ...this really means nothing...
On opinion, plain and simple, and a European one, at that. It’s not a teaching of the Church.
Have you heard of any RECENT incidents of priests abusing altar boys? Probably not, because the Church put safeguards in place over ten years ago to keep it from happening again. There may still be stories of cases from years ago, but likely not many from recent years.
I say if the Dems want to make millions of gun owners instant criminals with new gun laws, then the gloves are off. I got a new law to pass as well.
In the Cold War it was referred to as parallel escalation: All abortion classified as murder, and immediate termination of all planned parenthood abortion activities. ...if it will save just one life
As well as the fact it is the right thing to do. In fact it will save 3000 lives a day, and the income tax those babies will produce will help pay for social security and Medicare in thirty years.
too bad. but old school catholics (friends of mine) will tell you that their church has undergone a decades long leftist subversion, leaving people like this in postions of power. it’s going to take a while for these people to wash out.
That’s no surprise, especially while renegade Romans in the USA have established disproportionate numbers in politics and are pushing to disarm Americans.
What else would any one expect ? Of course the Pope has to endorse the second coming of ..even so only socialists are dumb enough to believe it.
Thankfully, others were more diligent; the priest was suspected by teachers, and turned in by a fellow priest, so the system that was put in place worked, and Ratigan got what was coming to him.
There goes the Ctholic Church again - straying away from the one goal it should have and meddling in areas that show how humanly fallible the “leaders” of it are.
Give this conservative Pope credit, he is appointing much more conservative bishops. That is a start.
Vatican also aligned with another position of the American Left:
yup. i really like this pope.
Note: this topic is from 1/20/2013. Thanks Nachum.