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East Windsor gun store raided after man caught stealing rifle (is this an air rifle?)
EyeWitness News 3 ^ | 1/17/2013 (update | WFSB staff

Posted on 01/20/2013 1:02:50 PM PST by FR_addict

East Windsor gun store under fire after man caught stealing rifle

EAST WINDSOR, CT (WFSB) - A gun store in East Windsor where at least one of the weapons used in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting was sold was raided Thursday night.

Adam Lanza had two pistols and the AR-15 when he entered Sandy Hook Elementary School Friday morning, and in just a matter of minutes, he fired multiple rounds, killing 20 children and six adults. Before the school shooting, he shot his mother four times.

Riverview Gun Sales is the same store where police believe a different man stole an assault weapon and was trying to carry out a similar attack.

In a video obtained by Eyewitness News, Jordan Marsh, 26, of South Windsor, can be seen stealing an AR-15 with a scope just four days earlier.

(Excerpt) Read more at wfsb.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Connecticut; US: New York
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; guns
----Is this an AR 15 air rifle?

The video on the right above the story is 3:06 minutes long and is the one that shows the man stealing the gun. The news calls it an AR 15, but is it an AR-15 air rifle? 1:06 and 1:51 on this video shows the man walking out with the red capped rifle.

A video is also posted here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpn1U_2MLYM

Is that an AR 15 air rifle? If you look it has a red cap on the gun. You can see the red cap in both views.

I was told that the red cap usually signifies an air rifle. An air rifle would make more sense why they had them out where any one could grab it and walk out of the store.

1 posted on 01/20/2013 1:02:57 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

Every gun store owner, gun manufacturer, and gun enthusiast needs to come to states where you’re welcome. The states are a force to be reckoned with and will be stronger if conservative, freedom loving patriots consolidated.


2 posted on 01/20/2013 1:14:03 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: FR_addict

Red cap signifies cap gun and airsoft guns.
Airsoft guns fire plastic pellets.
Stings, can put out an eye, that’s about it.


3 posted on 01/20/2013 1:15:48 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: FR_addict

What’s with the orange tip on the end of the barrel?


4 posted on 01/20/2013 1:17:54 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: demshateGod

I’m saving up about 6 months of money to make that move.

I would pump gas if I had to. I’m out of the NE but I faced myself with a 2 hour (each way) commute to do so.


5 posted on 01/20/2013 1:19:09 PM PST by Celerity
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To: FR_addict

Crossman R34 soft air rifle.


6 posted on 01/20/2013 1:23:24 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: PMAS
It looks red to me in the first surveillance video at the 1:06 mark.
7 posted on 01/20/2013 1:25:42 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict
I was told that the red cap usually signifies an air rifle.

Red cap will only shoot blanks. Take it off, and it'll shoot 223 rounds.

8 posted on 01/20/2013 1:29:17 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Jet Jaguar
That looks like a good match to me.
9 posted on 01/20/2013 1:30:57 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: demshateGod

Here come the over the top, hysteric federal raids. WOOPIE!


10 posted on 01/20/2013 1:32:43 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: FR_addict

I’ve never heard of a gun retailer with this rate of firearm theft.

Something is very wrong here.


11 posted on 01/20/2013 1:33:51 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: concerned about politics
I heard they use red cap in the military for blanks, but this looks like an air rifle. They also use the red cap for air rifles.
12 posted on 01/20/2013 1:34:12 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: G Larry

It looks like most of the guns were stolen by this one individual too.

“Police said Riverview Gun Sales had no idea the AR-15 Marsh stole was missing. Management at the store didn’t know about 11 guns that Marsh had allegedly stolen last year until they were notified by detectives.”


13 posted on 01/20/2013 1:37:35 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

Many gun stores, big chains and the little ones, have used long guns on customer accessible racks. New and the more valuable long guns are usually on racks behind the counter. All keep handguns in locked cases.

I don’t know why this store in the article had so many missing firearms. A lifted handgun should be noticed at closing as most stores do a count of the handguns in the glass cases. Most stores keep a watch on the exit door so walking out with a long gun is usually spotted. All long guns on racks or in backroom boxes should be counted monthly.

The feds come down on you if you have too many missing without paperwork.


14 posted on 01/20/2013 1:38:33 PM PST by RicocheT (Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
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To: FR_addict
I heard they use red cap in the military for blanks, but this looks like an air rifle. They also use the red cap for air rifles.

Oh. Sorry. Didn't watch the video. Just knew a red cap shot blanks.

15 posted on 01/20/2013 1:41:00 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: FR_addict

Let me go way out on a limb here.....

“Gay prostitute payoff to look the other way”?

Somebody had be be letting this happen on purpose.


16 posted on 01/20/2013 1:45:49 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: G Larry
“I’ve never heard of a gun retailer with this rate of firearm theft.

Something is very wrong here.”

It was raided by the ATF, the same outfit who brought us “Fast and Furious.”

17 posted on 01/20/2013 1:53:14 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: G Larry

I was thinking more along the lines of informant, who did what he was requested.


18 posted on 01/20/2013 1:54:30 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: G Larry

No FFL dealer in his right mind would be that sloppy about inventory control.


19 posted on 01/20/2013 1:56:16 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
http://www.riverviewsales.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=SFNT&Store_Code=RS

Welcome to Riverview Gun Sales
We are one of Connecticut's largest gun dealers! For many years, Riverview Gun Sales has been offering exceptional values on quality firearms and accessories. In the past couple years we moved our store and our inventory to our new larger and more convenient location. We offer some of the lowest everyday prices and will try to beat other stores so called sale prices. Please browse our website and if you have any questions please email us or call us at (860) 370-9939. Also do not be a stranger and come see our store which is located at 4 Prospect Hill Road East Windsor, CT 06088.

20 posted on 01/20/2013 2:01:22 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: concerned about politics
Red cap will only shoot blanks. Take it off, and it'll shoot 223 rounds.

I'm calling BS on this one. No such a thing.

21 posted on 01/20/2013 2:35:30 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: concerned about politics
Red cap will only shoot blanks. Take it off, and it'll shoot 223 rounds.

I'm calling BS on this one. No such a thing.

22 posted on 01/20/2013 2:35:53 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
“No FFL dealer in his right mind would be that sloppy about inventory control.”

This gun dealer is supposedly one of the largest in the state. It’s hard to believe they would be jeopardizing their business with sloppy inventory.

It looks like they had their license pulled:

Sources: Gun store had federal firearms license pulled after raid

http://www.wfsb.com/story/20497633/sources-gun-store-had-federal-firearms-license-pulled-after-raid

23 posted on 01/20/2013 2:35:59 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

That’s why I’m looking for answers.

Shootin’ in the dark!


24 posted on 01/20/2013 3:40:47 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Travis McGee
Paging Agent George Hemmet and Agent Bob Bullard, please come to the front for some dog-shooting.

SCARY, SCARY times. All predicted by FR's own Matthew Bracken.

25 posted on 01/20/2013 4:12:37 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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To: FR_addict

Yeah, maybe red - looks like a toy gun with that tip


26 posted on 01/20/2013 4:21:43 PM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: FR_addict

YES

orange tip means its NOT capable of firing ammo that is used in a “regular” gun.

Airsoft, bee bee, water have orange tips.


27 posted on 01/20/2013 5:02:11 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: John Valentine
John Valentine said: "I'm calling BS on this one. No such a thing."

Blank cartridges are frequently used in the military to allow realistic training exercises.

Rifles such as AR-15s and M-14s are gas-operated semi-automatic. The expanding gases which propel the bullet down the barrel are used to retract the bolt, eject the used shell casing, and load another live cartridge into the chamber, making the rifle ready to fire with another trigger pull.

These rifles have a small hole near the muzzle which directs gas into the space in the rifle where the expanding gases create the force to actuate the bolt.

In an M-14, and probably an AR-15 as well, the pressure created by a normal cartridge is sufficient to operate the mechanism, but the pressure provided by a BLANK cartridge is often not enough (because the gas starts venting from the muzzle immediately and less powder is used in blank ammo) and the rifle will tend not to cycle properly when firing blanks.

The solution that I am familiar with was used with an M-14 and was called a "blank-firing adapter". This was a device which attached to the muzzle and blocked much of the gas from venting so that the pressure would be higher when firing blanks and the rifle would cycle properly.

A serious problem would develop if a soldier neglected to remove the adapter and attempted to fire real ammunition, probably resulting in destruction of the rifle and great potential for injury.

For this reason, the adapters are made somewhat larger than necessary to do the job and they are painted bright red.

28 posted on 01/20/2013 7:25:20 PM PST by William Tell
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To: William Tell

Sorry, but your post is way off the point.

The point is that “Airsoft” rifles cannot fire bullets, blanks or not. They fire 5mm plastic pellets.


29 posted on 01/20/2013 7:53:18 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
John Valentine said: "Sorry, but your post is way off the point."

Fine. If you see what looks like an AR-15 with something red on the end of the muzzle, then you should just assume that it is an airsoft gun.

In my case, I will be open to the possibility that it is a true AR-15 equipped with a blank-firing adapter.

Perhaps that is the point that the other poster was trying to make to you.

30 posted on 01/20/2013 10:17:12 PM PST by William Tell
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To: William Tell
“In my case, I will be open to the possibility that it is a true AR-15 equipped with a blank-firing adapter.”

The butt of the gun he is carrying out looks more like the Crosman airsoft rifles than an AR 15. Have you looked at the video? They show the guy taking the gun from different angles on two surveillance videos.

31 posted on 01/21/2013 6:16:44 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

Neither of the two guns they show on the table are the gun that he took out of the store.


32 posted on 01/21/2013 6:19:23 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: G Larry

Something is very wrong here.....Great businessman, huh? Never reported to his insurance Company? HMMM.


33 posted on 01/21/2013 6:52:46 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: FR_addict
I meant that the butt was not the same as the second gun on the table in the video they display, right after the second surveillance video shown. And it could be an Crosman airsoft rifle.
34 posted on 01/21/2013 7:42:48 AM PST by FR_addict
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