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Does it Take Another Civil War? (Cover that keyboard!)
The Market Oracle ^ | January 20, 2013 | Michael T. Bucci

Posted on 01/21/2013 1:20:49 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

To think that twenty young children massacred in Newtown, Connecticut on December 14 would become catalysts to accelerate the continuing disintegration of American society was unconscionable on December 14th - and it remains unconscionable. While the nation fell into shock followed by grief, many wrote on the web, "Obama's gonna take away guns!" The narcissism of "2nd Amen" cultists is without boundaries it appears; to wit: the NRA rallies.

The goal to divert attention away from those child victims of guns in order to refocus it on themselves (the firearms industry and their plebian Constitutionalists), to protecting gun-owner "rights" and their guns, and now to posture themselves and their constituents as victims, is more than criminal, it's barbaric. It's fascistic. It's evil!

America holds its military arsenal against the heads of all nations in the world, and the NRA holds theirs against the America people. Twenty children, looking down from the Heavens, must realize they are not to blame for blood that will be shed when guns meet guns to resolve what legislatures would not - and that time is imminent. This isn't about the Constitution; this is about control of America by a most dark and insidious zeitgeist ever to visit the land and one that is drafted from the legions of Hell.

When peace-loving Americans get angry enough at "NRA-2nd Amen" specious rhetoric, threats and inflammatory actions, and then follow suit by taking up gun themselves, you will have what historians call Civil War. Hoping this does not occur, the ingredients are in place for it, having been engineered, exacerbated and invoked by the GOP, The John Birch Society, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, the Rupert Murdoch machine, Rand Paul and billionaire Rightists. From the day Barack Obama became President, America's "shadow rebels", militarists, Birchers, theocrats...

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: banglist; civilwar; cw2; cwii; guncontrol; nra; obama; palin; rushlimbaugh; sarahpalin; secondamendment; talkradio; teaparty
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I'm getting to where I could write one of these little screeds in my sleep. They are all so similar!
1 posted on 01/21/2013 1:21:06 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I love these hysterical pantywaisted fascists.


2 posted on 01/21/2013 1:29:13 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

How are they going to buy up a bunch of firearms to fight us with? There’s none to be had! Maybe the drug cartels will sell them some... LOL


3 posted on 01/21/2013 1:31:21 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“child victims of guns”. They’re still trying to blame the guns, not the people who use them. They can’t seem to see a root cause to any problem because I don’t think they want to. They have an agenda, and are willing to use any tragedy as an opportunity to advance it. If they can use the children at the same time, so much the better.


4 posted on 01/21/2013 1:34:44 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder (Common sense is the first casualty of a depraved mind.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wish these troglodytes would do us Americans a favor and move to their Stalinist gun-free (for citizens) utopias of North Korea or Cuba. If that’s not feasible, let’s drop the little darlings in the worst neighborhoods of the Democrat-run cities they voted for. See how long they last in either.


5 posted on 01/21/2013 1:36:18 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And this guy was supposedly a successful PR man? I honestly had a hard time to keep from busting out laughing at this little man and his rants.

I probably would have, had this been a general gun rant and not tied into the Sandy Hook tragedy. Nothing funny about some crackpot using those kids’ deaths for a self-serving and phony attempt to grab the moral high ground.


6 posted on 01/21/2013 1:38:55 AM PST by DemforBush (You might very well think that. I could not *possibly* comment.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Is this real? I honestly can’t tell.


7 posted on 01/21/2013 1:40:18 AM PST by Tublecane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Steven Brooks
8 posted on 01/21/2013 1:48:45 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Better safe than sorry.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hilarious stuff!


9 posted on 01/21/2013 1:50:05 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Listen to his venom and it is repeated by someone almost daily. Does anybody doubt they would put us into re-education / death camps if they could only find a way to get accomplish it?

Every editorial like this makes me more determined to not give up my guns. And all this murderous rhetoric he, and others like him such as the drag behind a pick up guy is dangerous. Does it never occur to them, that someone may take them seriously, and strike him before he can strike us?

I was always taught that threatening to kill people was a good way to get your own lamp blown out.


10 posted on 01/21/2013 1:57:46 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

A retired New Jersey whatever Democrat living in the UK. The money he stole got sent overseas, I guess. Just another bloke with a mouth and an ass - one of them much more useful than the other.


11 posted on 01/21/2013 2:00:22 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How are they going to buy up a bunch of firearms to fight us with?

Maybe that explains the cars I saw with Obama stickers in the gun shop parking lot. They were buying Evil Black Rifles to dry up the supply before we could buy them. It certainly can't be that they don't trust the word of The One, could it? :)

We are being conditioned to expect a massacre a day, always with an AR15, as "the new normal". On a really slow gun news day, they've had to settle for national coverage of some clown's negligent discharge of a firearm, unless the clown was some sort of cop, in which case there was no news to report.

12 posted on 01/21/2013 2:05:07 AM PST by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“This isn’t about the Constitution; this is about control of America”

Believe him when he tells you exactly what they are thinking. These articles are the “Mein Kampf” of today’s socialist revolutionaries. Join the NRA and GOA if you haven’t yet. Support TEA. The weakness of one is the strength of the other.

And simply get prepared. The Riechstag will burn soon, and when it’s on, it will be too late to prepare. The way we are being demonized and scapegoated always historically ends in violence.
Their echo chamber is trying to gin up some bravery. But make no mistake, they want us dead or enslaved to their will.


13 posted on 01/21/2013 2:05:49 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Better to die an unpatriotic pacifist without blood on your hands, then to live and never be able to wash it off.”

Was he foaming at the mouth when he wrote that? Seriously, talk about ‘unhinged’!


14 posted on 01/21/2013 2:10:32 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When peace-loving Americans get angry enough at "NRA-2nd Amen" specious rhetoric, threats and inflammatory actions, and then follow suit by taking up gun themselves, you will have what historians call Civil War.

Why is it that "peace-loving Americans" always seem to be "angry enough"? This panty waist will never take up arms, he'll vote to have the Government are someone else to do his bullying for him.

15 posted on 01/21/2013 2:13:35 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Please, don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When peace-loving Americans get angry enough at "NRA-2nd Amen" specious rhetoric, threats and inflammatory actions, and then follow suit by taking up gun themselves, you will have what historians call Civil War.

Why is it that "peace-loving Americans" always seem to be "angry enough"? This panty waist will never take up arms, he'll vote to have the Government are someone else to do his bullying for him.

16 posted on 01/21/2013 2:13:35 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Please, don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion.)
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To: DesertRhino

I believe him.


17 posted on 01/21/2013 2:26:24 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Yeah I don’t get it either. People that hate guns are going to buy guns to show the people that already have guns they mean business? But that means they are now people that have guns. I’d say, welcome to the fold my new second amendment loving friends! And by the way, you should REALLY show us a thing or two and vote conservative! That would really teach us a lesson!
18 posted on 01/21/2013 2:29:16 AM PST by Casie (Chuck Norris 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Millions were slain last century by leftists just like this article’s author. Peace loving? What a joke. He advocates taking guns by force from their truly peaceful and law abiding owners, in a civil war if necessary!

You cannot reason with such insanity. If we’re going to have civil war, the left will bring it. People like the author actually seem to want war. It’s the only way they can create their brave new world. Us “bitter clingers” are the only thing standing in the way of paradise on earth. The left has a proven track record of exterminating people who disagree with them.

What a sick joke!


19 posted on 01/21/2013 2:39:29 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: CitizenUSA

Hell, leftists also exterminate people who DO agree with them.


20 posted on 01/21/2013 2:42:15 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Right on TV that piece of garbageDemocrate on David Gregory said the most racist genderist biggoted thing ever: “that lady does not need a high cap magazines and AR15 semi auto featurs etc...”

In other words he was saying: “I need those for my body guards as I run my big American government corporation, she can have a revolver or a bolt action she cannot reload nor physically operate”

Why is it that Democrates are never called on by Republicans for their RACISM and GEnderism and elitism and self electabilitism above others?

This is disgusting.


21 posted on 01/21/2013 2:55:52 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: CitizenUSA

I’m a felon and I guess I will be lying on those gun applications like they lie for food stamps and get alcohol for it, and if a pedophile politician sends his pedophile TSA cops who want me treated as a child, we will see how the impedement to my freedom of speech through grabbing my gun is going to go.

GUN REGISTRATION IS SPEECH REGISTRATION... IT IS NOT A BUSINESS TO REGULATE WITH CHECKS AND WHAT NOT, IT IS INCIDENTAL TO FREE SPEECH THAT WE HAVE GUNS!!!


22 posted on 01/21/2013 2:59:23 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: CitizenUSA

Correction: I’m a felon in their eyes (not in actuality but soon to become one to these socialist bureaucrates who use hate crime laws and gun registration to register my speech).


23 posted on 01/21/2013 3:00:50 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm disappointed that Michael didn't set his figurative hair on fire as well.

What a dud muffin of entertainment.

24 posted on 01/21/2013 3:01:47 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: DesertRhino

Liberals have been indoctrinated and any other speech that is not government approved the way they learned it, they are calling it unconstitutional, undemocratic, too free and they are jealous of it.

The incidental that we can say what we want through the incidental of gun ownership outrages them. THey are gnashing and seething like a bunch of sad sentimentalists lorded over by their pimps.


25 posted on 01/21/2013 3:03:00 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: DesertRhino

Or broken up as a nation between what would be red states vs. blue states.


26 posted on 01/21/2013 3:19:46 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The real problem is red counties vs. blue cities...personally; I’d like to see the colors reversed...it’s the ‘red areas’ where we can find ‘true blue Americans’, whereas the Commies can be found predominantly in blue cities...


27 posted on 01/21/2013 3:31:52 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I really believe that we have reached that crisis; and this is maybe what Abe would say about it

If you could first know where you are and whither you are tending, you could better judge what to do and how to do it. You initiated a policy to tolerate the Marxist-Alinsky radicals and let them rant; not only has it not ceased but was constantly augmented by decades of infiltration and indoctrination. You now have two Americas. In my opinion, it will not cease until a crisis shall have been reached and passed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half statist and half free; I do not expect the house to fall; but I do expect it will cease to be divided. It will become all one thing, or all the other.

The question today is either the opponents of statism will arrest the further spread of it and place it on course of ultimate extinction, or its advocates will push it forward till it shall become permanent.

Have you no tendency to the latter condition?

Let anyone who doubts carefully contemplate that now almost complete legal combination — piece of machinery, so to speak — compounded of the Republican Party hands-across-the-aisle doctrine and the dreadful actions among statism's chief architects.


28 posted on 01/21/2013 3:40:55 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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"plebian Constitutionalists"

This idiot needs a full on fanny whipping.

These "soi disant" elitists are becomming more anoying every day.

29 posted on 01/21/2013 3:56:10 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s just same rant, different day with these people. I have been sticking earplugs in a lot more lately and listening to folks like Mark Levin. Now his rants are wonderful!


30 posted on 01/21/2013 4:06:36 AM PST by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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To: CitizenUSA

Look for this nation to break up along red states and blue states.


31 posted on 01/21/2013 4:48:24 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: marygam

What do you find different with the rants of Mark Levin that you like?


32 posted on 01/21/2013 4:49:36 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

33 posted on 01/21/2013 4:54:36 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Here is perspective of author (idiot):

“Viewpoint: America’s Military Machine Gearing Up for Total War Politics” 21 June 2008

(it is all about the evil US military industrial complex scheme to dominate the world)

http://www.globalresearch.ca/viewpoint-america-s-military-machine-gearing-up-for-total-war-politics/9430


34 posted on 01/21/2013 5:08:05 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: BCW

35 posted on 01/21/2013 5:29:34 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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To: DemforBush
And this guy was supposedly a successful PR man? I honestly had a hard time to keep from busting out laughing at this little man and his rants.

When I read it, I thought he perhaps wrote ad copy for Diet 7UP:

it's barbaric. It's fascistic. It's evil!

Similar meter to:

It's de lemon. It's de lime. It's de sugar free.
36 posted on 01/21/2013 5:31:10 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: Biggirl
Or broken up as a nation between what would be red states vs. blue states.

Agree. There needs to a physical separation, libs on one side, real Americans on the other side. No other solution is going to work, we ARE a house divided.

37 posted on 01/21/2013 5:39:18 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
From the day Barack Obama became President, America's "shadow rebels", militarists, Birchers, theocrats...

All that's missing is for the author to call us filthy Jews and scream “Du dreckiger Schweinehund!".

38 posted on 01/21/2013 5:42:36 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This isn’t about the Constitution; this is about control of America by a most dark and insidious zeitgeist ever to visit the land and one that is drafted from the legions of Hell.


This is not about guns of course, it is about socialist lies and the agenda to take over the world one nation at a time.

It makes sense that if no one has guns the anti freedom crowd can be much safer entering peoples homes and doing anything they desire to do.

And it is plain to see that almost no one use their guns to resist the police power that we now have.

That is why it is a fact that they are pretty safe entering peoples homes, but they are cowards and never feel quite safe enough

If what the writer said was true there would be thousands of killings every day in the resistance of what many people believe to be tyranny.

The take over of the world failed in Hitler and stalins day but did they give up? no way.


39 posted on 01/21/2013 6:17:43 AM PST by ravenwolf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Top Aide: Obama Seeks To Split Republican Party Into Warring Factions Before 2014 Midterm Elections…

http://weaselzippers.us/


40 posted on 01/21/2013 6:53:53 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting. Do pesce-loving leftists are going to take up arms to do battle with the right-wing in order to take their arms away? And then what?

This is beyond foolish - this is insane.


41 posted on 01/21/2013 7:55:14 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

pesce=peace


42 posted on 01/21/2013 7:56:05 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Biggirl

I just enjoy how he cuts to the chase and gets to the point. He is a constituional lawyer by education, and he knows how to make a point concise. I have no patience for those who espouse their feelings. I also enjoy when a liberal tries to challenge him, and he takes them apart bit by bit.
If you haven’t listened to him, give a try. If you don’t like him, maybe just not your cup of tea.


43 posted on 01/21/2013 5:49:37 PM PST by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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To: central_va
central_va said: "No other solution is going to work, we ARE a house divided. "

At one time I might have agreed with you.

But I don't believe that attempting to split the nation will work.

The only solution I see is an economic crash of epic proportions. I see rioting, starvation, disease, and death. The survivors will understand that socialism created the problem and will resist repeating it.

Splitting the nation physically won't work without walls to keep the liberals from fleeing the economic chaos that they create. We can't keep the illegals out of the U.S., so how would we keep the Kalifornia liberals out of Idaho?

When red America is prospering and blue America is starving, they will find reasons to take from the red to give to the blue. They will justify it somehow.

Just using today's arguments, I can see the liberals claiming that the red states are despoiling the environment and bringing on global warming and thus must stop being productive.

The liberals will attempt, as they have done in the past, to convince the less productive in the red states that their condition is caused by evil capitalism and not because they personally are uneducated, undisciplined, or unproductive.

Whatever bartering is attempted between the red states and the blue will be colored by arguments of "fairness", pointing out that the people in the blue states are less well off and thus the red states should sacrifice more in their dealings for the good of all.

We need to be patient and hold out for a decade or two longer, at most. You know the game is nearly up when the Federal Reserve must buy our debt in order to keep the interest rates under control. The end is near when Detroit looks like a wasteland and little is, can be, or should be done about it.

44 posted on 01/21/2013 7:29:27 PM PST by William Tell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"When peace-loving Americans get angry enough at "NRA-2nd Amen" specious rhetoric, threats and inflammatory actions, and then follow suit by taking up gun themselves, you will have what historians call Civil War a fatal miscalculation of epic proportion".
45 posted on 01/21/2013 7:42:54 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: William Tell

The beauty of physical divide would allow the red states to shore up the holes in the Constitution, ie amendments to prevent socialism could be passed and repealing the 16th and the 17th. So any refuge will have live under those laws.. It is the only way. Why should the entire country suffer under anarchy? At least half country could thrive, even prosper. Your thinking is depressing and defeatist.


46 posted on 01/22/2013 4:44:09 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Can people honestly be this stupid? This has to be another part of the marxist coup.


47 posted on 01/22/2013 12:32:06 PM PST by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
OATHKEEPERS.ORG
48 posted on 01/23/2013 1:05:02 AM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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OATHKEEPERS.ORG
49 posted on 01/23/2013 1:05:40 AM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (www.OathKeepers.org/oath/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can just imagine several million citizens wearing a 2A uniform, yes that right an actual uniform NOT approved by Washington DC, NOT approved by the Armed Forces, NOT approved by any other agency like HS,FBI etc.
A uniform with rank so that others can see who is in charge of making a stand against Washington DC.

Now I bet this has stirred up someones feeb engraved coffee cup at some computer terminal. A poster FR is sending out baaaad ideas...
And I bet Obama gets this memo to send out more internet trolls to dissuade any gatherings or organizational movements for a nationwide 2A militia.

Oh and to pick several from across to country to have their IRS forms audited, and to have their members set up on trumped charges.

Cannot have those bitter clingers getting organized Obama says.


50 posted on 01/23/2013 2:02:42 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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