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Five Dead; Teen Accused In Killing Spree (NM-Son shoots entire family)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | January 21, 2013 | Jeff Proctor and Patrick Lohmann

Posted on 01/21/2013 6:53:58 AM PST by CedarDave

It was a “horrific” crime scene that confronted deputies Saturday night: Pastor Greg Griego, his wife, Sarah, and their three youngest children lay dead — fatally shot multiple times with an assault rifle and other weapons — at their South Valley home.

The suspect in custody is the couple’s 15-year-old son, Nehemiah Griego, who authorities believe shot and killed his mother, young brother and two young sisters about 1 a.m. Saturday, and then lay in wait for five hours before ambushing his father when he came home.

The Journal also has learned that authorities believe Nehemiah then put several loaded weapons, including the assault rifle, in the family van with the plan to drive to the nearest Walmart, gun down more people and eventually die in a shootout with police.

But Nehemiah called a friend first, who talked him into meeting at Calvary church, where Nehemiah’s father had been a pastor. It was apparently a Calvary church security officer who contacted 911 about the slayings at the Griego home late Saturday.

Nehemiah Griego is now in the Bernalillo County Juvenile Detention Center, charged with two open counts of murder and three counts of child abuse resulting in death.

The couple had 10 children, but only the three youngest and Nehemiah were at home during the shootings.

The sheriff’s office has identified the victims as Greg Griego, 51, a former pastor at Calvary Chapel, as well as at the Metropolitan Detention Center; his wife, Sarah Griego, 40, a stay-at-home mom who home schooled their children; Zephania Griego, 9; Jael Griego, 5; and Angelina Griego, 2.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New Mexico
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The article goes on to detail the shooting chronology and the fact that the boy "may have had violent fantasies including killing and murder-suicide scenarios for much of his life" and the guns were kept in a closet and not in a gun safe.

A tragedy to be sure, but if a young male teen is possibly mentally unstable and with the guns not properly secured, much responsibility rests with the parents.

1 posted on 01/21/2013 6:54:18 AM PST by CedarDave
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To: lowbridge

Link to earlier news thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2980101/posts


2 posted on 01/21/2013 6:57:17 AM PST by CedarDave (Matt Damon is to natural gas fracking as Jane Fonda is to nuclear power generation.)
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To: CedarDave

Oh, here we go, and a troika for libs... a HOMESCHOOLED kid who happened to be raised in a CHRISTIAN environment, kills his family with an ASSAULT RIFLE.


3 posted on 01/21/2013 6:58:37 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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4 posted on 01/21/2013 7:01:17 AM PST by CedarDave (Matt Damon is to natural gas fracking as Jane Fonda is to nuclear power generation.)
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To: CedarDave
The suspect in custody is the couple’s 15-year-old son, Nehemiah Griego, who authorities believe shot and killed his mother

In the NY Daily News story, it's his father's wife. Important detail to sort out.

5 posted on 01/21/2013 7:03:49 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: CedarDave
A tragedy to be sure, but if a young male teen is possibly mentally unstable and with the guns not properly secured, much responsibility rests with the parents.

The parents should really pay for this mistake. Oh, wait; never mind.

6 posted on 01/21/2013 7:05:31 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: ScottinVA

The lesson to be learned here is obvious:

Store your weapons securely in a home with children, especially if one appears to have mental problems.


7 posted on 01/21/2013 7:07:39 AM PST by CedarDave (Matt Damon is to natural gas fracking as Jane Fonda is to nuclear power generation.)
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To: CedarDave
Another seriously messed-up kid needing help or incarceration and not getting it.

Another family in denial and ignoring obvious trouble brewing.

The guns aren't even an issue here. Had they been locked up the freak would have used a kitchen knife. Or doused them with gasoline and set them on fire.

I once had to "baby-sit" a teenaged boy when his mom (my friend's girlfriend) insisted on dragging him along to a ball game. I was the only unattached person in the group so I got the short straw. Anyway, this kid turned out to be a monster. He sat sullenly the whole time drawing sketches of murder and mayhem, including detailed sketches of actual people in the stadium sitting near to us being killed by torture. All he would talk about was death and killing. I was stuck talking with him for half a day and as far as I could tell he had NO other interests.

Long story short, had I been his dad I'd have had him evaluated for commitment. There is NO WAY I'd have wanted him loose in public. Or in my house. I wouldn't have let him near a sharp stick, let alone a gun. Of course when I broached the issue with my friend I was told that I was way out of line, he's just a kid, it's a stage, butt out. I hope they were right. But I wouldn't take a chance like that.

8 posted on 01/21/2013 7:12:34 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: CedarDave
Sorry, but I cannot help but wonder if this weapon was of the Fast and Furious variety.
9 posted on 01/21/2013 7:13:50 AM PST by Artcore
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To: ScottinVA

Further evidence that a family can do their best and the worst still happens...

Prayers for those left behind


10 posted on 01/21/2013 7:14:30 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: ScottinVA
“Oh, here we go, and a troika for libs... a HOMESCHOOLED kid who happened to be raised in a CHRISTIAN environment, kills his family with an ASSAULT RIFLE.”
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Isn't it amazing how Liberals fall all over themselves to make any type of negative connection to anything Christian, while ignoring the blatant obvious violence, and human rights violations of radial Islam.

Progressives really are cowardly maggots.

11 posted on 01/21/2013 7:18:12 AM PST by Artcore
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To: CedarDave

so okay what is pa doing out at 1 am, what is pa doing having remarried, which is not biblical, and did the step mother break up the 15 year olds’ original family? Not saying it is an excuse, just saying pa’s misbehavior had consequences.

These “pastors” thinking God brought a woman than other than their living spouse and out carousing.........


12 posted on 01/21/2013 7:21:41 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: CedarDave

“and with the guns not properly secured”

Be careful what you ask for. Imagine what a federally mandated “safe storage” system would be?

For the Feds, they spec a Class 5 safe when locking up handguns. And then if they spec a centralized alarm system with video, very few of us could afford that for a Buckmark and an 1100.


13 posted on 01/21/2013 7:24:59 AM PST by DBrow
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To: ScottinVA
Oh, here we go, and a troika for libs... a HOMESCHOOLED kid who happened to be raised in a CHRISTIAN environment, kills his family with an ASSAULT RIFLE.

Wow, this is absolute proof of what libs have been saying all along. The discussion is closed. /s

This might lead to further investigation of the possibility that being raised in a two parent family environment (if one parent is female and one is male) may be harmful for children.

14 posted on 01/21/2013 7:34:49 AM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: jboot
Thanks to the ACLU, the rules of commitment have set barriers that are hard to meet and therefore give little protection to the innocent. In addition to the strict rules, insurance company treatment and limitations on the payment for same cause many who need treatment to go untreated. Mental illness is very real. Just because we can't physically see a visible wound or detect an underlying cause, we tend to ignore it. Sadly this incident is a consequence of same. I know of no sure way to prevent these horrible events from happening - they will, from time to time, occur no matter what precautions we take.
15 posted on 01/21/2013 7:39:12 AM PST by Boomer One
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To: CedarDave

For some reason, Satan really wants the American people defanged, and the old deceiver is throwing everything he has at getting it done.


16 posted on 01/21/2013 7:42:23 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: CedarDave

From the ABJ’s link at the story:

“Greg Griego was a longtime pastor, known for helping former and current inmates, as well as troubled youths.

Griego had converted his backyard barn into a halfway house for released prisoners, according to neighbors. He also held services at the county jail’s “God Pod,” where he gave inmates spiritual advice.

Griego was a former gang member, according to an article posted on the Prison Fellowship website.

He is also the brother of former Democratic state Sen. Eric Griego....”


17 posted on 01/21/2013 7:43:38 AM PST by blu
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To: CedarDave

>> charged with... three counts of child abuse resulting in death

WTF? Why are the childrens’ deaths not murder one as well?


18 posted on 01/21/2013 7:46:03 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: CedarDave

Not sure that comment in the headline is correct: ‘entire family’.

Per an article yesterday, the family had 10 kids. It didn’t say whether any of them were ‘natural’ or adopted, nor their ages, nor which ones were living at home.

Also, per one report, the perp did not use a gun to kill the 3 children. The implication was that he ‘abused’ [beat] them to death.

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As I posted in an earlier thread, this was a crime of rage.

And, if it is true that the 3 children were not shot to death, that would surely mess up the Lib/Left/Dem/MSM agenda.


19 posted on 01/21/2013 7:47:27 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: SoftballMominVA

“do their best”? What evidence do you have to make a claim like that?


20 posted on 01/21/2013 7:50:44 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: Boomer One

True on all counts. Things are even worse now thanks to HIPAA. I am really curious just HOW mental heath information is going to be provided to law enforcement agencies when I as a husband (and the primary insured) cannot legally be told the result of my wife’s medical tests, or what drugs she has been prescribed, without her explicit written permission.


21 posted on 01/21/2013 7:52:26 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: oldbrowser

It was a step family. And the dad was out on a Saturday night (Sunday morning) past 1 am. Not good if you are going to get up for church the next day.............


22 posted on 01/21/2013 7:55:47 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Nervous Tick

“For some reason, Satan really wants the American people defanged, and the old deceiver is throwing everything he has at getting it done.”

Spot on. We are heading for a global economic collapse, which will most likely be the pretext for the rise of the Antichrist. Americans are the only civilian population with sufficient arms to offer real resistance, hence the increase in mass violence. Satan gets a two fold benefit, support for his agenda and more souls in Hell.


23 posted on 01/21/2013 7:57:49 AM PST by allblues
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To: jboot

“HOW mental heath information is going to be provided to law enforcement”

bo fixed that in one of his 23 decrees.

HIPAA info can be shared for background checks.


24 posted on 01/21/2013 8:15:15 AM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: yldstrk
what is pa doing having remarried, which is not biblical, and did the step mother break up the 15 year olds’ original family?

Too many unfounded accusations here! How do you know there was a break up of the original family? What makes you think that the father was divorced and then remarried? My brother-in-law lost his wife in a car accident. About 10 years later he remarried and now has a wonderful family. Are you saying that is not biblical?

25 posted on 01/21/2013 8:37:14 AM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Scrambler Bob
Now there's the rub. HIPAA specifically constrains law enforcement access. It specifies that medical information may ONLY be obtained with a valid SW/court order.

Zero DID legislate from the podium, then.

26 posted on 01/21/2013 8:54:31 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: ScottinVA

Nailed it.


27 posted on 01/21/2013 8:57:02 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Fuzz

I guess i don’t have any evidence - except that the family appeared to be doing a lot of the right things - church, attention, conservative values

however, it is pretty obvious something wasn’t done correctly....very sad that the result is a bunch of dead children and parents.


28 posted on 01/21/2013 8:59:41 AM PST by SoftballMominVA
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To: yldstrk
It was a step family. And the dad was out on a Saturday night (Sunday morning) past 1 am. Not good if you are going to get up for church the next day.............

That's not really a fair assumption, is it? For all we know he could have been working a second job delivering pizza's or something so he could afford to have his wife home with the kids.

29 posted on 01/21/2013 9:08:03 AM PST by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: yldstrk

The Fatheer was the Chaplain for the fire dept, so very well could have been on a call with the Fire Dept. Please get the facts before being so judgemental.
denco


30 posted on 01/21/2013 9:24:52 AM PST by denco
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To: yldstrk

The Fatheer was the Chaplain for the fire dept, so very well could have been on a call with the Fire Dept. Please get the facts before being so judgemental.
denco


31 posted on 01/21/2013 9:25:17 AM PST by denco
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To: CedarDave

“But Nehemiah called a friend first, who talked him into meeting at Calvary church,”

Wow, that is amazing. A quiet hero. God bless that friend.


32 posted on 01/21/2013 10:10:04 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: TomGuy; Persevero
Tomguy: As I posted in an earlier thread, this was a crime of rage. And, if it is true that the 3 children were not shot to death, that would surely mess up the Lib/Left/Dem/MSM agenda.

All five were shot in the head.

Persevero: Wow, that is amazing. A quiet hero. God bless that friend.

It was his girlfriend after he texted her a picture of his dead mother. She convinced him to meet her at Calvary Chapel after the killings where her grandmother and other staff summoned a security guard who called 911.

Documents: All Five South Valley Homicide Victims Shot In Head

33 posted on 01/21/2013 2:40:48 PM PST by CedarDave (Matt Damon is to natural gas fracking as Jane Fonda is to nuclear power generation.)
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