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Itís snowing, and it really feels like the start of a mini ice age
UK Telegraph ^ | January 20, 2013 | Boris Johnson

Posted on 01/21/2013 8:02:15 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

"The Sun is god!” cried JMW Turner as he died, and plenty of other people have thought there was much in his analysis. The Aztecs agreed, and so did the pharaohs of Egypt. We are an arrogant lot these days, and we tend to underestimate the importance of our governor and creator.

We forget that we were once just a clod of cooled-down solar dust; we forget that without the Sun there would have been no photosynthesis, no hydrocarbons — and that it was the great celestial orb that effectively called life into being on Earth. In so far as we are able to heat our homes or turn on our computers or drive to work it is thanks to the unlocking of energy from the Sun.

As a species, we human beings have become so blind with conceit and self-love that we genuinely believe that the fate of the planet is in our hands — when the reality is that everything, or almost everything, depends on the behaviour and caprice of the gigantic thermonuclear fireball around which we revolve.

I say all this because I am sitting here staring through the window at the flowerpot and the bashed-up barbecue, and I am starting to think this series of winters is not a coincidence. The snow on the flowerpot, since I have been staring, has got about an inch thicker. The barbecue is all but invisible. By my calculations, this is now the fifth year in a row that we have had an unusual amount of snow; and by unusual I mean snow of a kind that I don’t remember from my childhood: snow that comes one day, and then sticks around for a couple of days, followed by more.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: climate; globalccoling; iceage
Boris Johnson is the Mayor of London.
1 posted on 01/21/2013 8:02:25 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

And we, here in the Mid-Atlantic as well as much of the US, haven’t had diddly-squat for snow since 2003’s “President’s Day Blizzard”. Trade ya for some, Boris...


2 posted on 01/21/2013 8:10:18 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s/15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

move to Russia for this winter ,now that’s an ice age


3 posted on 01/21/2013 8:12:42 AM PST by molson209
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To: carriage_hill

We’re getting some flurries today here in Pgh, but it’s supposed to be c-c-c-COLD for the next few days. I think the high tomorrow isn’t supposed to surpass 15 degrees F.


4 posted on 01/21/2013 8:17:48 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

We’ve had clear conditions & temps in the 20’s - very unusual for the mid-Willamette Valley in Oregon. I’d prefer our usual warmer temps & rain to this. Bring on the Global Warming!


5 posted on 01/21/2013 8:17:48 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: carriage_hill

With the exception of “SnowMageddon” in 2010, I agree.


6 posted on 01/21/2013 8:18:15 AM PST by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: carriage_hill

7 posted on 01/21/2013 8:21:22 AM PST by jpsb
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Good observation...the sun has gone on strike....if we don’t get a decent crop of sunspots in the next 11 year cycle....prepare for at best another 400 year mini-ice age.


8 posted on 01/21/2013 8:28:10 AM PST by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: jpsb

The funny thing about an ice age is that the rainfall and snowfall actually decreases once an Ice Age has taken hold...


9 posted on 01/21/2013 8:37:51 AM PST by GraceG
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To: rjsimmon

You’re right; I forgot that one event!

I don’t remember “winter snow cover” on the ground from Dec-Mar/Apr, since the late-50s/early-60s, in ILL.


10 posted on 01/21/2013 8:47:26 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s/15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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To: jpsb
Looks like global warming has been delayed on account of snow in southern Michigan.

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11 posted on 01/21/2013 8:48:57 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Those “arctic express” fronts are bone-chilling & pipe-bursting, but little/no snow cover to speak of. I don’t remember any Dec-Mar ‘snow cover’ since 50s/60s, back in IL.


12 posted on 01/21/2013 8:51:39 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s/15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Mugged by reality, I’d say!


13 posted on 01/21/2013 9:01:44 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Global warming got its start in the UK with PM Margaret Thatcher in 1979. Where ever the UK goes the US is to follow not too far behind.


14 posted on 01/21/2013 9:14:48 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: carriage_hill
Those “arctic express” fronts are bone-chilling & pipe-bursting, but little/no snow cover to speak of. I don’t remember any Dec-Mar ‘snow cover’ since 50s/60s, back in IL.


The trouble with memory is that it is not very accurate. We usually only remember extreme or special events.

This might help - January snowfall for Joliet, IL since 1943. It looks like 2012 was quite a high snowfall year, and nothing outstanding in the 50's or 60's.

http://weather-warehouse.com/WeatherHistory/PastWeatherData_JolietBrandonRdDm_Joliet_IL_January.html

I don't know where you are exactly, but you can look it up at the link.

15 posted on 01/21/2013 9:16:26 AM PST by az_gila
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To: carriage_hill

78-79 was a bad one in Chicago, this year nothing at all but flurries about 30 miles west of Chicago


16 posted on 01/21/2013 9:17:10 AM PST by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: az_gila

That chart is suspicious. NR for January 1979 snow. Chicago had a 20+ inch snowstorm that year.


17 posted on 01/21/2013 9:22:37 AM PST by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

-12 right now.

Could be worse. This is typical for MN this time of year.


18 posted on 01/21/2013 9:30:15 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Going to be near 60 all week in Denver. Wish he would send some of hat our way


19 posted on 01/21/2013 9:36:06 AM PST by Mom MD (Liberals are slinkies. Good for nothing but they make you smile when you push them down stairs.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Boris is a communist right ? Wow. So even some commies will wake up before they become frozen hippy statues. Here is some of the latest news on the Next Ice Age.

They are illegally burning trees to stay alive in Germany and Greece.

Greece – Tree theft on the rise in order to keep warm

Germans stealing trees to keep warm

People are dieing of hypothermia in Mexico.

Cold weather kills 29 in Mexico

Croatia just broke a snowfall record set in 1861.

Croatia snowfall shatters record set in 1861 – Video

Mexico the coldest it has been in 42 years.

Mexico coldest in 42 years

And people are freezing to death due to high energy costs in Ireland thanks to the green murderers.

Ireland – Two die of hypothermia in their Dublin flat

20 posted on 01/21/2013 9:48:09 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: az_gila

Right now I’m in PA. Back in the 50s/50s, I was in NW suburbs (Arlington Hts) of Chicago (1955-1967).

On that chart, a few NRs, besides 0”-14” yrs. I can’t get to AH’s page, since I’m not ‘signed-up’. AH wasn’t that far north of Joliet, but I do remember the continual snow covers. Not sure I trust their numbers. I also do remember the ‘57, ‘62 & ‘67 blizzards, before we moved to NJ.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/01/31/the-10-worst-snowstorms-in-chicago/


21 posted on 01/21/2013 10:02:14 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s/15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

In the teens here and single digits tonight and tomorrow night. We are getting snow but have not gotten much this winter - west Michigan. Started our fire in the woodstove earlier than usual today.


22 posted on 01/21/2013 10:05:41 AM PST by MomwithHope (Buy and read Ameritopia by Mark Levin!)
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To: sharkhawk

I believe it. Haven’t you had an ongoing spring/summer drought, for some years now? I grew-up in Arlington Heights (’55-’67), and do remember ~3 blizzards thru those years.


23 posted on 01/21/2013 10:07:20 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s/15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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To: justa-hairyape
Boris is a communist right ?

What makes you think so?

24 posted on 01/21/2013 10:26:32 AM PST by Romulus
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To: Romulus

There is a famous communist mayor of London we keep hearing about. Think he is the one.


25 posted on 01/21/2013 10:50:05 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: carriage_hill

It’s been a year since a one inch snow. 2012 was pretty dry, but 2011 was a wet year.


26 posted on 01/21/2013 11:36:56 AM PST by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Nope. That would be ‘Red’ Ken Livingstone. Boris is quite, quite the opposite.


27 posted on 01/21/2013 11:41:23 AM PST by Mitch86
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To: justa-hairyape

The man you’re thinking of has been out of office almost 5 years.


28 posted on 01/21/2013 12:14:05 PM PST by Romulus
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

29 posted on 01/21/2013 5:23:18 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Mom MD

We’ve got 4 degrees here in Davenport with a -16 windchill.

You’re welcome to it.


30 posted on 01/21/2013 5:30:56 PM PST by 2111USMC (aim small, miss small)
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To: Romulus

Okay. My mistake. Thanks for the correction. Not the red commie. Glad to see they got rid of him.


31 posted on 01/21/2013 6:32:51 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Jack Hydrazine

What a load of poop.

Thatcher only got (slightly) ‘green’ around 1989. Ten years into her primeministership.


32 posted on 01/22/2013 11:33:10 AM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

The origins of the global warming scare
http://www.john-daly.com/history.htm

The hypothesis of man-made global warming has existed since the 1880s. It was an obscure scientific hypothesis that burning fossil fuels would increase CO2 in the air to enhance the greenhouse effect and thus cause global warming. Before the 1980s this hypothesis was usually regarded as a curiosity because the nineteenth century calculations indicated that mean global temperature should have risen more than 1°C by 1940, and it had not. Then, in 1979, Mrs Margaret Thatcher (now Lady Thatcher) became Prime Minister of the UK, and she elevated the hypothesis to the status of a major international policy issue.

(More details at the link.)


33 posted on 01/22/2013 7:31:02 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Was Margaret Thatcher the first climate sceptic?

“Margaret Thatcher was the first leader to warn of global warming - but also the first to see the flaws in the climate change orthodoxy”

‘A persistent claim made by believers in man-made global warming – they were at it again last week – is that no politician was more influential in launching the worldwide alarm over climate change than Margaret Thatcher. David Cameron, so the argument runs, is simply following in her footsteps by committing the Tory party to its present belief in the dangers of global warming, and thus showing himself in this respect, if few others, to be a loyal Thatcherite.

The truth behind this story is much more interesting than is generally realised, not least because it has a fascinating twist. Certainly, Mrs Thatcher was the first world leader to voice alarm over global warming, back in 1988, With her scientific background, she had fallen under the spell of Sir Crispin Tickell, then our man at the UN. In the 1970s, he had written a book warning that the world was cooling, but he had since become an ardent convert to the belief that it was warming, Under his influence, as she recorded in her memoirs, she made a series of speeches, in Britain and to world bodies, calling for urgent international action, and citing evidence given to the US Senate by the arch-alarmist Jim Hansen, head of Nasa’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies.

She found equally persuasive the views of a third prominent convert to the cause, Dr John Houghton, then head of the UK Met Office. She backed him in the setting up of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in 1988, and promised the Met Office lavish funding for its Hadley Centre, which she opened in 1990, as a world authority on “human-induced climate change”.

Hadley then linked up with East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) to become custodians of the most prestigious of the world’s surface temperature records (alongside another compiled by Dr Hansen). This became the central nexus of influence driving a worldwide scare over global warming; and so it remains to this day – not least thanks to the key role of Houghton (now Sir John) in shaping the first three mammoth reports which established the IPCC’s unequalled authority on the subject.

In bringing this about, Mrs Thatcher played an important part. It is not widely appreciated, however, that there was a dramatic twist to her story. In 2003, towards the end of her last book, Statecraft, in a passage headed “Hot Air and Global Warming”, she issued what amounts to an almost complete recantation of her earlier views.’

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/7823477/Was-Margaret-Thatcher-the-first-climate-sceptic.html


34 posted on 01/23/2013 7:00:13 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Was Margaret Thatcher the first climate sceptic?

“Margaret Thatcher was the first leader to warn of global warming - but also the first to see the flaws in the climate change orthodoxy”

‘A persistent claim made by believers in man-made global warming – they were at it again last week – is that no politician was more influential in launching the worldwide alarm over climate change than Margaret Thatcher. David Cameron, so the argument runs, is simply following in her footsteps by committing the Tory party to its present belief in the dangers of global warming, and thus showing himself in this respect, if few others, to be a loyal Thatcherite.

The truth behind this story is much more interesting than is generally realised, not least because it has a fascinating twist. Certainly, Mrs Thatcher was the first world leader to voice alarm over global warming, back in 1988, With her scientific background, she had fallen under the spell of Sir Crispin Tickell, then our man at the UN. In the 1970s, he had written a book warning that the world was cooling, but he had since become an ardent convert to the belief that it was warming, Under his influence, as she recorded in her memoirs, she made a series of speeches, in Britain and to world bodies, calling for urgent international action, and citing evidence given to the US Senate by the arch-alarmist Jim Hansen, head of Nasa’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies.

She found equally persuasive the views of a third prominent convert to the cause, Dr John Houghton, then head of the UK Met Office. She backed him in the setting up of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in 1988, and promised the Met Office lavish funding for its Hadley Centre, which she opened in 1990, as a world authority on “human-induced climate change”.

Hadley then linked up with East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit (CRU) to become custodians of the most prestigious of the world’s surface temperature records (alongside another compiled by Dr Hansen). This became the central nexus of influence driving a worldwide scare over global warming; and so it remains to this day – not least thanks to the key role of Houghton (now Sir John) in shaping the first three mammoth reports which established the IPCC’s unequalled authority on the subject.

In bringing this about, Mrs Thatcher played an important part. It is not widely appreciated, however, that there was a dramatic twist to her story. In 2003, towards the end of her last book, Statecraft, in a passage headed “Hot Air and Global Warming”, she issued what amounts to an almost complete recantation of her earlier views.’

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/7823477/Was-Margaret-Thatcher-the-first-climate-sceptic.html


35 posted on 01/23/2013 7:01:47 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Thanks for the link.

I was genuinely unaware her ‘greenness’ went back that far.

It seemed only to become public around 1989, when Co2 and the ozone became big news. In fact, she was criticised by some here as bandwagonning.

I will happily admit my part-ignorance on this one.


36 posted on 01/23/2013 7:06:30 PM PST by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

Now you can educate others about it!


37 posted on 01/23/2013 8:07:01 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: the scotsman

In related news...

Half of the land in Northern Hemisphere is covered in snow!
http://iceagenow.info/2013/01/northern-hemisphere-covered-snow/


38 posted on 01/23/2013 8:09:19 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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