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Shooting range no longer welcomes Burlington Police
WPTZ.COM ^ | Jan 21, 2013 | WPTZ.COM

Posted on 01/21/2013 11:55:31 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER

BURLINGTON, Vt. —The Burlington Police Department is getting caught in the crossfire between Burlington City Council and Second Amendment advocates.

A shooting range in Morrisville, Vt. is no longer letting Burlington Police officers train there.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: gun; police; range

1 posted on 01/21/2013 11:55:44 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

In this age of politicization, neutral is not a color. Time to $hit or get off the pot.


2 posted on 01/21/2013 11:59:45 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Vermont is a crazy state with a lot of explicit socialism — but they are also a Constitutional Carry state, and there are not that many of those. The City Council made a bad vote, and the gun owners don’t like it.


3 posted on 01/21/2013 12:00:10 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

If they are not for me they are against me!


4 posted on 01/21/2013 12:03:16 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

>Deputy Chief Andy Higbee said officers will train more at the Ethan Allen Firing Range in the mean time.

A shame the Ethan Allen folks don’t put a stop to that too.


5 posted on 01/21/2013 12:05:35 PM PST by soycd
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

What a mess!

As much as I am all for sending of messages, I hate to see rank and file cops suffer. My experience with the police has been that most of the madness resides at the top. The guys on the beat have to put up with a lot of crap, and I don’t like seeing them penalized because the voters have elected idiots.


6 posted on 01/21/2013 12:13:25 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: soycd

What a sad thing, considering the name of the range.


7 posted on 01/21/2013 12:15:11 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (safeandlegal.com Make it viral.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The PD Deputy cheif said:

“It is unfortunate that this important and much-needed community dialogue regarding gun control currently under way in the city of Burlington and across the nation has resulted in this action,”

I wouldn’t let the sonsabitches on my range either, if that is their attitude.


8 posted on 01/21/2013 12:17:28 PM PST by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: I cannot think of a name

Elections should have consequences. For far too long, the DoNut Munchers Union has been more motivated to care for its members than to the public and the Constitution.

Once, oaths had meaning, fixed meanings, too.


9 posted on 01/21/2013 12:17:28 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."..)
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To: I cannot think of a name
We didn't pick this fight. If the cops aren't speaking out against threats to the Second Amendment why should they be accommodated at civilian owned ranges?
10 posted on 01/21/2013 12:18:51 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Mr. Silverback
What a sad thing, considering the name of the range.

Was my thought also.

11 posted on 01/21/2013 12:32:25 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The whole lot of Neo Europa should be purged from America. There is simply no need for those states any longer.


12 posted on 01/21/2013 12:36:02 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: GladesGuru

IMO, Unions in general don’t really care that much about their members at all. They are just the pawns.
The union leadership cares only for the well being of the union leadership.


13 posted on 01/21/2013 12:43:18 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

People don’t want to believe the police would lie at Sandy Hook, but they don’t realize cops in New England are just another leftist bloc.


14 posted on 01/21/2013 12:43:27 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Who are the people still privileged to use that shooting range?


15 posted on 01/21/2013 12:46:47 PM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The second amendment seems pretty cut-and-dry to me. Yet, this police department says there is a "...much-needed community dialogue regarding gun control..."

Let them train elsewhere.

16 posted on 01/21/2013 12:49:25 PM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER; GladesGuru

I agree, I agree, but I also know how it is.

Down here in Texas we are ‘backwards’ as far as the progressives are concerned. But even here, several cops I know have to watch what they say very carefully. All the police department higher ups, and sometimes even the union higher ups, all sing from the same book. And the poor guys on the bottom better soon learn they better not cross the higher ups, as they have many ‘negative’ ways to reward such candor.

There’s smaller sheriff’s departments where people are still able to stand up strong. But most of the big city police departments have become cabals that do not tolerate much dissent from ‘the plan.’ By the way - the money hasn’t been printed that would get me to be a cop in a big city police department!


17 posted on 01/21/2013 12:53:42 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Bushbacker1

Ethan Allen was one of my first heroes. My Mom bought me biographies of him and Paul Revere for my birthday once.


18 posted on 01/21/2013 12:56:09 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (safeandlegal.com Make it viral.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The dogs in Burlington will sleep better at night.

/s


19 posted on 01/21/2013 1:00:47 PM PST by LurkingSince1943 (Former War Criminal)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Burlington, I think, is a college town. That explains a lot.


20 posted on 01/21/2013 1:02:19 PM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I think that the Lamoille Valley Fish and Game Club could make this even more amusing by sponsoring a fun event for “LEOs who support the 2nd Amendment”.

That is, throw a party for all the other police who show up, and not invite the Burlington PD.


21 posted on 01/21/2013 1:02:19 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
The Burlington Police Department is staying out of the debate, but did release a statement.

"It is unfortunate that this important and much-needed community dialogue regarding gun control currently under way in the city of Burlington and across the nation has resulted in this action," writes Deputy Chief Andy Higbee.

Dialogue??? The time for any dialogue is before a vote is taken, not after. The vote is a monologue - politicians vote for a ban; their subjects submit to it.

This follows a Burlington City Council vote earlier this month to ban semi-automatic rifles and large-capacity magazines.
What did the cops have to say when the ban was under consideration? Did they support it?
22 posted on 01/21/2013 1:15:30 PM PST by Bob
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To: Nik Naym
I wouldn’t let the sonsabitches on my range either, if that is their attitude

The Police Chief's job depends on this same group who passed this ordinance, he has to play politics in every facet of his life. But I would like to know how the rank and file police officers feel about this.

23 posted on 01/21/2013 2:15:20 PM PST by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Bob

I’m sure glad Florida decided state law preempts all the local jurisdictions on firearms.


24 posted on 01/21/2013 2:15:43 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: submarinerswife

Good for the firing range; sticking to their principles over profit.


25 posted on 01/21/2013 2:18:55 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: submarinerswife

“The Police Chief’s job depends on this same group who passed this ordinance, he has to play politics in every facet of his life.”

Wahhhh, he works for the public. Either he supports the ban or he doesn’t. Time to choose which side you are on.


26 posted on 01/21/2013 2:19:05 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: submarinerswife

I have been a police chief. The Chief needs to stand with the community and with the constitution. If he is afraid for his job, then he shouldn’t be in the job in the first place.
Chiefs are generally at will employees. Granted that after a time there becomes a property interest right but that is for another discussion.

The single advice I give to Chiefs is to always do the right thing. To always be preparted that today is your last day on the job but leave having made the right decision.


27 posted on 01/21/2013 2:38:12 PM PST by midcop402
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I read this the other day, and I never get tired of reading it. Thanks for posting!


28 posted on 01/21/2013 2:42:00 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
FTA: "It is unfortunate that this important and much-needed community dialogue regarding gun control currently under way in the city of Burlington and across the nation has resulted in this action," writes Deputy Chief Andy Higbee.

Well no, the problem is your bosses on the council decided to strangle "dialogue" by passing the stupid ordinance. Piss be upon you. May Ethan Allen Firing Range see the light and let your dog-shooters practice at the gravel pit like the rest of us.

29 posted on 01/21/2013 2:48:47 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Did you know that today is his 275th birthday?


30 posted on 01/21/2013 3:28:29 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

Well so it is! Knock me over with a feather, FRiend!

Happy Birthday, Colonel. We’re doing our best to be like you.


31 posted on 01/21/2013 4:00:06 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (safeandlegal.com Make it viral.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Unfortunately my best is closer to an Ethan Allen couch potato than the actual Ethan Allen. :/


32 posted on 01/21/2013 4:32:08 PM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Laughing my a$$ off!

What does Burlington need police for, anyway? Them weenies has banned all the guns!

33 posted on 01/21/2013 7:44:34 PM PST by backwoods-engineer ("Remember: Evil exists because good men don't kill the gov officials committing it." -- K. Hoffmann)
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