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Clergy Declares Holy War on NRA
Townhall.com ^ | January 21, 2013 | Janet M. LaRue

Posted on 01/21/2013 1:13:48 PM PST by Kaslin

The battle to demonize the National Rifle Association became a religious crusade when the Rev. Jim Wallis, CEO of Sojourners and “progressive” spiritual advisor to President Obama, convened some clergy for a witch trial.

As a foreword, if you join the NRA, as about 250,000 folks have done in the past few weeks, you’ll be affirming your support for the Second Amendment, not the Nicene Creed.

Wallis rounded up a posse of fellow progressive clergy for a press conference in Washington, DC on Jan. 15. Their heresy detector spiked after Wayne LaPierre, CEO and Executive Vice President of the NRA, responded to irrational calls to ban so-called “assault weapons,” following the murderous rampage at the Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, Conn. by a mentally disturbed gunman.

LaPierre called instead for armed guards in schools, saying:

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”

Wallis condemned the statement, as “morally mistaken, theologically dangerous, and religiously repugnant.”

And that was after Wallis and his Sojourners pledged to a “Covenant for Civility” in 2010:

“We pledge to God and to each other that we will lead by example in a country where civil discourse seems to have broken down. We will work to model a better way in how we treat each other in our many faith communities, even across religious and political lines. We will strive to create in our congregations safe and sacred spaces for common prayer and community discussion as we come together to seek God's will for our nation and our world.”

The Rev. Jim should know there’s not a jot or a tittle in the Bible condemning the principle of LaPierrre’s statement as “morally mistaken, theologically dangerous, and religiously repugnant,” which is probably why Wallis didn’t cite Scripture. There are many passages, however, confirming its core truth?killing to protect innocent life is biblically justified. Take the Book of Esther, for example.

In his column, “The NRA’s Dangerous Theology,” two days later, Wallis repeated his rant against the NRA, quoting Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. It was to no avail, which is why Wallis admittedly added his own special spin to King’s words:

“‘King said ‘people often hate each other because they fear each other, they fear each other because they don’t know each other, they don’t know each other because they cannot communicate, they cannot communicate because they are separated.’ ‘I would add to his words: ‘and in that separation they seek guns.’ ‘As an evangelical Christian, I’m going to make this theological.’”

Wallis missed or ignored that Rev. King was heavily armed, and for good reason. According to Adam Winkler writing for the Huffington Post:

“William Worthy, a journalist who covered the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, reported that once, during a visit to King's parsonage, he went to sit down on an armchair in the living room and, to his surprise, almost sat on a loaded gun. Glenn Smiley, an adviser to King, described King's home as ‘an arsenal. … King applied for a concealed carry permit in Alabama.’”

According to Wallis, LaPierre’s great heresy is classifying people as “good” or “bad” instead of a mixture of both. Actually, it’s much worse. The Lord says, “There is no one righteous, not even one.” Thankfully, we are “justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.”

Despite our ongoing sinful state, God, unlike Wallis, makes moral and legal distinctions between bad guys who shed innocent blood, and good guys who take them out, condemning the former and commending the latter.

The next time he waxes theological with his White House disciple, Wallis should ask about the Mexican teenagers who were murdered with some of the 2,000 “assault weapons” knowingly placed in the hands of a drug cartel by the Obama administration’s ill-conceived “Fast and Furious” scheme.

Then there’s Obama’s statement from 1999, as recalled by John R. Lott when both were teaching at the University of Chicago: “I don’t think people should be able to own guns.”

Wallis should apply his heresy detector to Obama’s claim to support the individual right to bear arms under the Second Amendment, a claim belied by his record. As an Illinois state senator, Obama voted twice against the right of Illinois residents to protect themselves against home invasions.

It’s constitutionally comatose politicians, not God, who disarm the innocent, giving bad guys the advantage.

Wallis concludes with his nine-year-old son’s opinion about guns:

“I don’t think that we should just let anybody have any kind of gun and any kind of bullets that they want. That’s pretty crazy.”

Wallis might want to get the opinion of twin nine-year-olds in Georgia whose mother saved them from an intruder by shooting him until her six-shot revolver was empty.

As Jesus said, “When a strong man, fully armed, guards his estate, his possessions are secure.”

It’s the Second Amendment and biblical version of social justice.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: banglist; clergyagainsrguns; clergyagainstguns; clingtoguns; clingtoreligion; godgap; guncontrol; jimwallis; nra; religiousleft; secondamendment; thebible; waynelapierre
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1 posted on 01/21/2013 1:13:52 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Bring it on—it’s our side that is armed-——just kidding...


2 posted on 01/21/2013 1:18:18 PM PST by basil (basil)
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To: Kaslin

Godless clergy from the church of man.


3 posted on 01/21/2013 1:20:21 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Kaslin

Wallis and his ilk server another master.


4 posted on 01/21/2013 1:20:21 PM PST by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: Kaslin

Liberals bending the Bible the Bible to their world view. It’s in the Bible itself the Apostle Paul talks of it.


5 posted on 01/21/2013 1:21:25 PM PST by vpintheak (Occupy your Brain!)
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To: Kaslin

Argumentum ad filium.......means arguing by way of children...it’s what liberals do. They take a little cutesy quote from a child and then pretend likes it’s some deep intelligent meaning. Wallis, wow, glad I won’t have to be handcuffed to him when he dies.


6 posted on 01/21/2013 1:22:04 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“liberalism” is simply the political expression of the religion of Humanism, then see tagline.


7 posted on 01/21/2013 1:22:30 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

More of Nancy Pelosi’s 2004-2006 agenda to close the “god gap” in the public’s mind by finding left wing mouthpieces to play up the religious angle of their positions.

I guess we only hear Martin Luther King referred to as “Doctor King” instead of REVEREND because of lying phony reverends like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton using that title.


8 posted on 01/21/2013 1:23:46 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Kaslin

My “safe and sacred space” has at least two CCWL folks packing heat every Sunday. Sometimes more.


9 posted on 01/21/2013 1:26:40 PM PST by lightman (If the Patriarchate of the East held a state like the Vatican I would apply for political asylum.)
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To: Kaslin
The headline should be changed to: (Liberal) Clergy Declares Holy War on NRA
10 posted on 01/21/2013 1:28:01 PM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door- daughter and wife screaming for help - Dems took YOUR gun....)
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To: Kaslin
The headline should be changed to: (Liberal) Clergy Declares Holy War on NRA
11 posted on 01/21/2013 1:28:40 PM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door- daughter and wife screaming for help - Dems took YOUR gun....)
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To: Kaslin
The headline should be changed to: (Liberal) Clergy Declares Holy War on NRA
12 posted on 01/21/2013 1:29:10 PM PST by GOPJ ( Gang members breaking down YOUR door- daughter and wife screaming for help - Dems took YOUR gun....)
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To: Kaslin

What is his view on the Holy Hand Grenade (of Antioch)?

Are we cool, then?


13 posted on 01/21/2013 1:33:41 PM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Godless clergy from the church of man.

Yep. They can call themselves clergy but that can’t call themselves Christian otherwise they would be against gay marriage and abortion amongst other things.


14 posted on 01/21/2013 1:34:18 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: Kaslin

Jesus said, “and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.”. Luke 22:36. That’s right, Jesus said your weapon was more important than the shirt on your back. Also, see my tagline.


15 posted on 01/21/2013 1:34:29 PM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Kaslin

Wallice is a RAT.


16 posted on 01/21/2013 1:40:06 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: Noumenon

Exactly I loathe this people - why?. Back in 2005, my father passed away and we had an open coffin. My brother’s female friend came to the service. As I approached my father’s coffin with my cousin. I notice a black large object under his hand. So I pulled it out and the large button says Matthew 24. At that time I did not realize what it was. Then my brother’s female friend saw me doing this and said “O I placed that there for him” so I naively placed it back. When I got home I become curious so I went online to do some research on it. OMG!! I became so furious. I was saying to myself “Keep your dam politics out of my father coffin! How dare you!” Matthew 25 group spouted Liberal Christianity. This POS does not realize my parents were Democrats but they voted for both President Bushes and hated the Clintons. I was so livid to know my father was buried with the garbage. I wish I could exhume him to remove it from him. I learned that Jim Wallis and this Matthew 24 group were tied to together that is when I learned more about Jim Wallis. These people will be the type of people that will be easily deceived by the Anti-Christ for they are not grounded on the true Word of God.


17 posted on 01/21/2013 1:41:08 PM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: Kaslin

I get the impression that progressives are itching for a cause upon which they can pile their agenda and discredit and banish conservative values from civil discourse. This is but the second phase of the same battle for ObamaCare and even for fiat money and infinite perpetual debt. It is all just difference sides on the same loaded dice of socialism and its fraudulent triumph of ideology over truth.

Jesus and the Apostles warned of false preachers and teachers. We even are warned that the simple truth of the Gospel would be morphed and altered such that anyone who refused to accept the progressive interpretation would be kicked out of the church. Jesus said that there were people in society who were hostile to truth. I would encourage everyone to read Chapter 8 of John, for in verse 41 Jesus, the Savior is brutally plain: people who are hostile to truth are doing the deeds of their father, Satan, and these people seek to kill Him (and anyone who follows Him) because that truth has “no place in you”.

I think that we are seeing a form of spiritual warfare against the truths that America were founded on. Yes, some of that founding was not truth at all, but notice how I worded my claim. Of the many attributes of the founding of the society now organized as the United States of America, many of those attributes such as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (and property) are direct expressions of truth that can also be found in the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Socialism is directly contrary to those values. It is based directly and explicitly on violations of three of the Ten Commandments (lies, coveting and theft). The Apostle Paul instructs us that coveting is idolatry, (eg: Col 3:5).

We can see in Jesus’ own Parable of the Workers in the Vineyard in Matthew chapter 20 many free market principles. This parable ends with a rhetorical question from Jesus that destroys socialism: “Is it not lawful for me to do what I want with my own?” (Matthew 20:15)

Under socialism it is a crime to do what you want with your own property. Moreover, capitalism must be voluntary and peaceful or the exchange it is based on is not free. Or to put it another way, when exchange is not free, voluntary and peaceful, it is not capitalism. It is something else. It may be fascism or communism, but it is not capitalism.

People who fancy themselves as ministers can say anything they want. But when they misrepresent the economic truths in Scripture they disqualify themselves. Nobody can be a minister of Jesus Christ and advocate coveting of someone else’s property, theft even when using government to effect the theft, or violation of God’s laws of marriage.

Such people are feeding the monster that will devour them someday, for the instant such people are no longer useful to the people who are hell-bent on building the secular Utopia, they will be dealt with severely as they are being thrown under the bus.


18 posted on 01/21/2013 1:42:33 PM PST by theBuckwheat
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To: Kaslin

the left used fake clergy and used religion to push prohibition too.

Get a handful of frauds, announce they are clergy, tell media clergy is against guns and the low info dumb voter thinks this is the truth.

Maybe this fake clergy should attack homosexuality etc which is against the Holy Bible and religion, minus that fake religion called unitarian


19 posted on 01/21/2013 1:43:19 PM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Kaslin

“Big Religion” has completely marginalized itself in pursuit of secular approval.

There’s not a single major denomination today that I have any respect for or a desire to align myself with.

(I’m a cradle Episcopalian, BTW.)


20 posted on 01/21/2013 1:48:10 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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To: Patriot Babe
Check this out: A Draft Letter to Your Pastor

Time to call them to account.

21 posted on 01/21/2013 1:49:41 PM PST by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: Noumenon

Ping.


22 posted on 01/21/2013 1:51:01 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Noumenon

I’m slipping. ;-P


23 posted on 01/21/2013 1:51:59 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kaslin

I read some blogs for fun on the Democracynow site. Many of the LW bloggers liken Obama to Jesus Christ, and declare him unstoppable, and they he will usher in the Reign of Jesus Christ. Pretty strange. One even went on to say that Obama cannot by hurt, because as the Son of God he is protected by angels. Huh, so they think Obama is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ. I think there are in for a big surprise. And this article proves it with the “satanic spiritual advisors” Obama has


24 posted on 01/21/2013 1:55:07 PM PST by realcleanguy
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To: GOPJ

liberal clergy are pagans.


25 posted on 01/21/2013 1:55:40 PM PST by bravo whiskey (“People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.”)
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To: realcleanguy
One even went on to say that Obama cannot by hurt, because as the Son of God he is protected by angels.

Seriously, is this guy the "anti-christ on deck" or what?

When I see "cannot be hurt", the first thing that comes to my mind is Nicolai Carpathia walking out of the White House that's just been hit by multiple missiles, unscathed.

26 posted on 01/21/2013 2:01:26 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: DuncanWaring

Another triumph of the Gramscian Long March. A rope and a lamp post for all of them.


27 posted on 01/21/2013 2:02:44 PM PST by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: Kaslin

When the Communists took over in Romania, they called a conference of clergy. At this conference, the Orthodox bishop of Bucharest showed off his new vestments (the stole of which now had the hammer and sickle on it) and informed his colleagues that they should no longer call him “Your Grace” but should instead call him “Comrade Bishop.”

Wallis is cut from the same cloth as that traitor.


28 posted on 01/21/2013 2:04:22 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (safeandlegal.com Make it viral.)
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To: Kaslin

What a group of false prophets. The role of pastors is to spread the gospel and what they are doing is not the great commission of God.


29 posted on 01/21/2013 2:05:47 PM PST by YukonGreen
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To: Patriot Babe

Unless your brother’s female friend was his wife she wasn’t immediate family and had no business placing anything inside your father’s casket.

Glad you learned about Wallis as a result, though.


30 posted on 01/21/2013 2:07:01 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kaslin
Rev. Jim Wallis, CEO of Sojourners and “progressive” spiritual advisor to President Obama

"Reverend" Jim Wallis is a clinically insane Marxist. He makes the ladies of Code Pink look like Rush Limbaugh. Karl Marx would have thought Wallis is extreme. Vladimir Lenin would have been frightened of Wallis' extreme left wing views.

Wallis probably calls his "right" arm "my other arm" to avoid the term "right". The man is more disgusting than Mark Potok (SPLC loon), if you can believe that.

If Wallis is a spiritual advisor to 0bama it is de facto, irrefutable proof that Zero is a Socialist. All of you MSM pukes need to stop disputing in any way that Zero is a socialist. Here's your proof.

31 posted on 01/21/2013 2:07:53 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: Kaslin

I proudly wore my NRA Life Member pin as I served at the table during our worship service yesterday.


32 posted on 01/21/2013 2:15:20 PM PST by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Pastor Bonhoeffer would have labelled these fools—so called “clergymen” as “Religionless Christians”.

Christianity believes the institution of slavery is intrinsically evil. All history proves when guns are removed from individuals—you become slaves of the state who are massacred and all freedoms removed. “Absolute power corrupts absolutely”-—this from a profound Catholic well versed in Theology.

These ignorant people “think” government is “good”-—the Founders stated correctly it was ALWAYS a “necessary” EVIL......so to assume government should be our MASTER-—is to let EVIL rule us......how utterly stupid.....

There is no “Reason” with Marxist ideology. True Christians understand the “Big Lie” inherent in Socialism/Marxism and would NEVER align themselves with such an EVIL ideology of slavery.


33 posted on 01/21/2013 2:34:17 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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Jim Wallis, CEO of Sojourners and “progressive” spiritual advisor to President Obama, convened some coven for a witch trial.

There. Fixed it.

34 posted on 01/21/2013 2:42:47 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Kaslin

Luke 22:36


35 posted on 01/21/2013 2:48:26 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Kaslin
Democrats turned to Wallis in 2004 after they identified John Kerry's loss on "values voters." Pelosi hire Wallis to teach Democrats how to insert religious language into their appeals to voters.

I have to give them credit. They did what Republicans failed (and still fail) to do - learn how to manage a message.

-PJ

36 posted on 01/21/2013 2:55:45 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
Godless clergy from the church of man.

You do realize that your reference covers EVERY religion on the face of the planet?

37 posted on 01/21/2013 2:58:35 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: Political Junkie Too

“I have to give them credit. They did what Republicans failed (and still fail) to do - learn how to manage a message.”

It is orders of magnitude easier to manage a message when the MSM is on your side.


38 posted on 01/21/2013 3:01:12 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Kaslin

We have had “The Church of Oprah”. Now, we are seeing the Church of Obama, which has the scatty aroma of the same religious crowd that called Caligula, a ‘god’.

This is hypocrisy, at the gourmand level! Next, they will be selling ‘indulgences’.

These folks come on the heels of the folks in Rome, who have also advocated that the American people disarm.

Molon Labe - Long Live The Republic!


39 posted on 01/21/2013 3:05:39 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Kaslin

Luk 11:21 When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:

Luk 11:22 But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

Just make sure your arms are better than those who shall come against you!


40 posted on 01/21/2013 3:13:24 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: marktwain
Agreed, but Republicans aren't even giving the appearance of trying.

It appears that the House and Senate act as independent agents. Each one is stepping on the other's efforts.

In the House, Boehner is expelling people whose ideas are different from his. In the Senate, McConnell is MIA, and the rest are not coordinating any response.

-PJ

41 posted on 01/21/2013 3:16:00 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Kaslin
LaPierre called instead for armed guards in schools, saying:

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”

Wallis condemned the statement, as “morally mistaken, theologically dangerous, and religiously repugnant.”

Oh. OK.

In 2000 Bill Clinton Wanted Cops in Schools Because of Columbine

42 posted on 01/21/2013 3:17:36 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Kaslin

These so called “churches” need to stick to marrying fags and leave the rest of us alone. This is still America and 50% of us living here are still Americans. We aren’t finished yet. KMA Wallis!


43 posted on 01/21/2013 3:18:45 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (HealthCare IS NOT a right. The RIGHT to keep and bear arms is.)
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To: MrB
When I see "cannot be hurt", the first thing that comes to my mind...

Statements like that make me think of the Titanic.

44 posted on 01/21/2013 3:28:04 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Kaslin

New world order name “Progressive Clergy”, Old world name”Satanists” These people that believe in redefining the Bible are the same ones that believe the Constitution is a living document.


45 posted on 01/21/2013 3:29:22 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Kaslin

The song ‘pusher man’ from Steppenwolf comes to mind when I think of the Jim Walls spew pushed.


46 posted on 01/21/2013 3:32:04 PM PST by Darren McCarty (If most people were more than keyboard warriors, we might have won the election)
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To: lightman

The church I go to will soon be having a CHL class.


47 posted on 01/21/2013 3:49:14 PM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is the operational wing of CPUSA.)
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To: Kaslin
Rev. Jim Wallis, CEO of Sojourners and “progressive” spiritual advisor to President Obama

The economy must be bad - even Satan lost his job and has been replaced.

48 posted on 01/21/2013 3:51:08 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Kaslin

Ping for reference


49 posted on 01/21/2013 4:43:22 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Kaslin

Wallis is the creepy looking “faux” priest who is nothing more than a propaganda tool for socialists/communists.

In 1821 (or so) it was an orthodox priest who raised the flag of revolution in Greece against the Ottomans.

If this was 1780+ Wallis would be one of the Torries who moved to canada.


50 posted on 01/21/2013 5:18:14 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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