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No Guns in the Library: Curbing the Second Amendment in the Stacks
LIbrary Journal ^ | January 9, 2013 | Michael Kelley

Posted on 01/21/2013 2:54:31 PM PST by 1010RD

Last month, the U.S. Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals declared Illinois’s ban on carrying a weapon in public unconstitutional, leaving the District of Columbia as the only place in the country that does not allow the concealed carry of firearms by civilians (and D.C. is being sued to allow this).

The morally purblind pro-gun lobbyists have been so successful in saturating our society with firearms—from national parks to Amtrak trains—that public libraries across the country are also finding themselves having to grapple with Second Amendment radicals.

For example, the Boulder Public Library, until November, had a policy that read: “No person may bring a weapon into or possess a weapon in any library facility except this rule shall not apply to library security personnel or police officers carrying service weapons.”

In light of Colorado’s concealed weapons statute and a Colorado Supreme Court ruling earlier this year that said the University of Colorado could not ban concealed-weapon permit holders from bringing guns on campus, the library, as the Denver Post reported, had to change the rule to read: “No person may bring or possess a weapon, except as expressly permitted by state law.”

Clearly, the library prefers to limit the presence of guns, but the library also wants to respect the law. Unfortunately, our gun laws (and their interpretation) are increasingly misbegotten and take insufficient heed of the need for reasonable restraint in certain places. But even mild attempts at regulation raise the ire of the pro-gun crowd.

Virginia’s Richmond Public Library posted a rule this summer saying “carrying concealed weapons of any type is prohibited by State Law,” according to the Richmond Times Dispatch. The Virginia Citizens Defense League Inc., a pro-gun group, correctly told the library that this information was not accurate, and the library changed the rule to read “carrying concealed weapons is prohibited, except as permitted by law.”

Yet the defense league’s members found even this posting unacceptable, and 30 of the group’s members showed up inside the library in August with openly carried guns to protest the rule.

Guns, particularly openly borne guns, do not belong in libraries, which thrive on an inviting environment.

Still, in a closely watched case in Michigan, the state Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 on October 25 that the Capital Area District Library (CADL) was exceeding its authority when it barred patrons from openly carrying firearms in library branches.

Michigan Open Carry challenged the ban in 2011 after library security guards asked armed Open Carry members to leave the downtown Lansing library branch (including the teen area) on several occasions. The library’s attorney said the administration still believes it has the authority “to ban the open carry of weapons in its branches in order to protect library patrons of all ages and CADL staff.” The library board voted in December to appeal the decision.

Henry Saad and Jane Beckering, who wrote the majority opinion, showed in their ruling that they were interested more in being judges than in being just:

“We are obligated to interpret and apply the law, regardless of whether we personally like the outcome. Certainly, at a time where this country has witnessed tragic and horrific mass shootings in places of public gathering, the presence of weapons in a library where people of all ages—particularly our youth—gather is alarming and an issue of great concern.”

Given our recent bloody history, of which Newtown is the pluperfect example, the court’s ultimate ruling is legalistic at best and far from ethically astute.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; colorado; connecticut; districtofcolumbia; guncontrol; illinois; michaelkelley; michigan; secondamendment; virginia
They'd be calling for a revolution if the title read:

No Liberty in the Library: Curbing the First Amendment in the Stacks

The Left just doesn't see the right to defense - against evil, including tyrannical government as pro-liberty. Talk about purblind.

You can comment at the site.

1 posted on 01/21/2013 2:54:37 PM PST by 1010RD
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To: neverdem

Of interest to your banglist.

The comments at the site are very thoughtful and pretty balanced given the source and politics of librarians.


2 posted on 01/21/2013 2:57:00 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

That’s weird since the only reason anyone goes to a library anymore is to take a bath in the sink, warm up or watch porn.


3 posted on 01/21/2013 3:00:25 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (HealthCare IS NOT a right. The RIGHT to keep and bear arms is.)
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To: 1010RD
—that public libraries across the country are also finding themselves having to grapple with Second Amendment radicals.

So those defending the Bills of Rights is considered "radicals?"

The author of the article can always immigrate to a country that doesn't permit the freedoms stated in the Bill of Rights.

4 posted on 01/21/2013 3:13:49 PM PST by John123 (US$ - I owe you nothing. Euro - Who owes you nothing.)
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To: 1010RD
Guns, particularly openly borne guns, do not belong in libraries, which thrive on an inviting environment.

Yeah - "inviting" a mass murderer.

I'll carry in the library - and they'll never know.

5 posted on 01/21/2013 3:14:24 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: grobdriver

“I’ll carry in the library - and they’ll never know”

^ This. And it applies to more than just the library. Much more.


6 posted on 01/21/2013 3:18:23 PM PST by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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To: 1010RD
Michael Kelley is in support of massacres? Was he applauding Sandy Hook? What a sicko.

Hmmmmm....we are slowly limiting the number of places that a crazy person bent on killing can go. Glad to hear the libraries are now safer. Now if we can only protect our schools!

7 posted on 01/21/2013 3:24:07 PM PST by TheDon (Criminalizing self defense contributed to the Sandy Hook massacre.)
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To: 1010RD

I picked up a nice gun maintenance book the other day in the library’s throw out box.


8 posted on 01/21/2013 3:24:18 PM PST by bgill (We've passed the point of no return. Welcome to Al Amerika.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
That’s weird since the only reason anyone goes to a library anymore is to take a bath in the sink, warm up or watch porn.

My library use has greatly increased since online catalogs, especially Worldcat, became available to the public. I currently have about 15 library cards so I can use a library within driving distance if Worldcat shows that it has the book that I want.

9 posted on 01/21/2013 3:26:35 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: 1010RD

For an earlier discussion on FR of this article:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2976844/posts


10 posted on 01/21/2013 3:27:28 PM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: 1010RD

I demand Libraries be rid of their First Amendment Rights!

No speech for the anti-Bill-Of-Rights crowd.

Libraries must become book free zones to protect the innocent from dangerous ideas.


11 posted on 01/21/2013 3:28:10 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Before we argue, are you approved to speak by the Bureau of Alcohol, Firearms and Speech?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

***That’s weird since the only reason anyone goes to a library anymore is to take a bath in the sink,****

That is what happened to my favorite library, The TULSA Public library. Last time I was there the winos were sleeping it off in the lobby. Not long ago the third floor of the library was found to be infested with BED BUGS.


12 posted on 01/21/2013 3:31:30 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name! See new paintings!)
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To: TheDon
Great point. The fewer “gun free zones” the narrower the funnel and the greater the concentration. It's like a pheromone for nutjobs.
13 posted on 01/21/2013 3:38:48 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Listen to the mewling of the lambs. They would prefer to leave themselves defenseless to the very sort of predatory animals that their other “morally purblind” policies allow to skulk and haunt the public libraries.

I guess that they would prefer to take a rusty shank from one of them rather than be defended by the likes of me.

Either way works for me.


14 posted on 01/21/2013 3:50:14 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: 1010RD

I demand Libraries be rid of their First Amendment Rights! Libraries must become book free zones to protect innocent children from dangerous ideas.

For example, the evil ideas in “Das Kapital” and “The Communist Manifesto” have killed more people than all the guns in America ever, including all our wars.

Therefore, all books must be banned in Libraries. And homes, because that’s where the consumption of those evil ideas may occur.

If you agree to a First-Amendment-free America, then I’ll consider entering empty libraries without my Second Amendment rights.

Until then, I’ll keep all my G-d given rights, thank you very much.

Sincerely,

U.M.


15 posted on 01/21/2013 3:52:14 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Before we argue, are you approved to speak by the Bureau of Alcohol, Firearms and Speech?)
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To: 1010RD
Given our recent bloody history, of which Newtown is the pluperfect example, the court’s ultimate ruling is legalistic at best and far from ethically astute.

"Dang, that Kelley fellow works his tongue purtier than a $20 whore." </Slim Whitman>

16 posted on 01/21/2013 4:06:05 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: 1010RD

The Librarians scream that pornography is protected under the 1st Amendment but as for the 2nd Amendment...


17 posted on 01/21/2013 4:54:43 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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18 posted on 01/21/2013 6:00:03 PM PST by RedMDer (HEY LIBS! GUN FREE ZONE T-SHIRTS AVAILABLE NOW. I DARE YA!)
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To: 1010RD

I try to avoid gun free zones. They just seem like target rich environments for freaks.


19 posted on 01/21/2013 6:17:02 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (bahits.com)
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