Skip to comments.Japan Threatens To Fire On Chinese Fighters — China Says 'There Will Be No Second Shot'
Posted on 01/21/2013 3:11:54 PM PST by blam
Japan Threatens To Fire On Chinese Fighters China Says 'There Will Be No Second Shot'
January 21, 2013, 2:35 PM
When Chinese and Japanese fighters met for the first time over disputed islands in the East China Sea earlier this month, Japan promptly declared its right to fire tracers at China's jets.
Though met with outrage by China at the time, Japan continues promoting the live firing which Chinese military academics are calling the "first shot."
Every country has procedures for how to deal with a violation of its territory that continues after multiple cautionary measures, Japanese Defense Minister Itsunori Onodera said Wednesday when asked if tracer shots would be fired against intruding aircraft that refuse to change course. We have response measures ready that are consistent with global standards.
If Japan is using the talk of tracer fire to gauge Chinese reaction, the tactic worked.
The Chinese Foreign Ministry said Sunday his country is on "high alert" and that Japan and the U.S. are ignoring the fact that "the islands are Chinas inherent territory."
Never to be left out, Chinese military academics quoted in Beijing's state-run media provided far more fiery replies:
Japans desire to fire tracer warning shots as a way of frightening the Chinese is nothing but a joke that shows the stupidity, cruelty and failure to understand their own limitations, Maj. Gen. Peng Guangqian of the Chinese Academy of Military Sciences was quoted saying by the China News Service and other state media.
Firing tracer bullets is a type of provocation; its firing the first shot, he said. Were Japan to dare to fire tracers, which is to say fire the first shot, then China wouldnt stint on responding and not allow them to fire the second shot.
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China lamenting the fact “they have small penis”... /southpark
Offer them some sushi.
The good news for Japan is that if Chinese weapons are anything like Chinese power tool, Japan has nothing to worry about.
“Peace in our time” - Barack Obama
China is serious, and Japan should...
1. Change name of Maritime Self Defense Force to NAVY
2. Announce plans for a carrier
3. Do away with “defense out to 1,000 mile marker”
4. Try to perform some joint exercises with South Korea
5. Station their people on the islands with AA assets
If Japan keeps confronting the dragon, it needs to shed its restrictions about developing offensive military capabilities including nuclear weapons.
Ill bet they started development when Obama failed to respond to the North Korean Cheonan Incident. When they saw that there was no I-got-your-back coverage for our long-time ally South Korea every American ally took notice and started developing nuclear weapons. I know I would. Japan will work through the political issues later. In the meantime, look for them to explode demonstration nuke at a propitious moment.
The Chinese aren’t stupid, and there is a butt load of bad blood for the Japanese throughout east Asia (historical karma).
The Japanese had best be prepared and not count on American help. Obama will side with his fellow communists.
What makes you think that they haven't?
So the PLA gets all of its stuff from Harbor Freight?
I think China is spoiling for a conflict because their economy is about to collapse and without war they will most certainly collapse....
6. Activate NERV
7. Take the Evangelions out of mothballs...
Japan has fired the first shot in a war without warning against Russia and the United States. The PRC better be prepared.
If Japan is wise they will stir up the Uyghurs, then obama won't know whether to support fellow muslims or fellow communists...
Japan is a six-day nuclear power. They have delivery vehicles, they have nuclear tech. The only thing they haven’t done is assembled a device. According to some reports, it would take Japan six days at most to assemble a device, stick it on top of one of their space program’s rockets, and send someone the unwelcome wagon card.
Waiting, in the depths of the Pacific ocean - just waiting, waiting for the right moment to reveal itself.
This will happen when the time is right.
No one messes with Japan and gets away with it.
Both Nations want war—or near-war to distract their people from all the problems they are having—but a full fleded conflict isn’t in the cards—Fighting with an appeal to Obama and the UN to reach a peace? Deaths in the dozens—not thousands or millions. Maybe—Obama can earn his Peace Prize at long last.
A careful study by some US Naval War College authors, including information from an internal Japanese study leaked by the Japanese press, is that it would take 3-5 years for the Japanese to develop a usable nuclear warhead.
To me, the firing of a tracer is like the proverbial "shot across the bow." It means that the person firing the shot wants the other person to know that the round was real and if it were meant to hit, it would have.
If a war breaks out, I don’t see that helping their economy. They depend on exports. Initiating action against Japan would kill their exports to Japan and the US among others. It would be economic suicide.
Mothra !!!! /S
Wouldn’t that be a great sketch on SNL?
Half the time that weapon is used on Japan itself though.
I saw something about that - more than 10 years go. I’m reasonably sure the Japanese have one by now. So are a number of other experts.
Not sure what you are saying here. The U.S. certainly "messed" with the Japs after they attacked us on Dec. 7, 1941 and the emperor's representative was present on the deck of the Missouri to sign the surrender papers. I would call that messing with them and getting away with it.
Obama offers to hold a beer summit, can’t we all just get along?
I'm afraid beer won't cut it. They need a saki/biajiu summit.
6. Buying a couple of our Ohio Class subs would also work. Better we sell them to Japan then give them to China.
You might be pretty close to the truth. I read on another site that there are 30,000,000 to 40,000 ,000 more men in the 20 - 40 year old range than there are women, owing to the one child edict. Girl babies are either aborted or killed. That leaves the guys with an unsatisfied testosterone problem. The theory is that China will initiate a war using these guys as cannon fodder. Not looking good. sd
That’s because we never woke Godzilla
Im leaning toward supporting China on tis one. Both are difficult to belieeve and always have a hidden agenda - but after working for the Japanese - ill support China.
But when was that study made?
They spent years in China from circa 1932 to 1945 and failed to conqueror her as well.
Wow! Barry can paint some wood shelving. Good for him, glad he found something he can do.
He sure makes a piss-poor president.
Hold your cards folks, I think we have a BINGO!
I hear so much stuff about how great the China economy is. The economies of all the big players of the world are built on a house of cards. When one of these players collapses, the rest are soon to follow, including China.
My gut feeling tells me they already assembled a device, and plans for a test detonation. The only thing not assembled is the trigger and nuclear fuel. They probably code-labeled it "popcorn machine" to keep it secret. If things get really hot, they may need it in 15 minutes, not six days. Problem is, using nukes is not a solution for either country. But publicly announcing one via a test, when China is hostile may work in Japan's favor to get China to back off.
Mark Your Time?
Barry is a threat to world peace. The Chinese suspect that he would not retaliate, so why not go after Japan?
If they suspected that Baraka would retaliate, then there would be much less threat of war.
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Posted on 01/21/2013 1:34:30 PM PST by Kaslin
Japan has no shortage of fissle material either.
Sadly, I expect that their weapons are "Iphone" quality. They are perfectly capable of manufacturing a perfectly stable, high quality technical product.
Or the regime will take them out to the woods and find out why not...
Manufacturing is one thing when done under the guidance of a 3rd party, but research, design and development are another matter all together. Still, if they can steal enough technological know how, it's a moot point.