Skip to comments.It’s the Message and Yes the Messengers — NOT the Voters
Posted on 01/22/2013 5:16:44 AM PST by SJackson
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It’s the Message and Yes the Messengers — NOT the Voters
Posted By David Horowitz On January 21, 2013 @ 4:02 pm In Daily Mailer,FrontPage | 41 Comments
Bruce Thornton, a highly intelligent and eloquent writer is one hundred percent wrong in attributing the Republican election loss to the alleged fact that 47% of the country are now takers from government. If Thornton is right, how is it that Republicans were the minority party in 1960 and 1964, before Medicare and all the entitlements that followed the Great Society programs were in place? I say that 47% takers is an alleged fact because millions of veterans receive benefits that they made sacrifices for, and millions of older people receive medicare and social security assistance that they also paid for. Moreover, millions of Republican voters are among these so-called takers, and millions more have children who took government loans to get through college.
Asian Americans voted 70% for Obama. Because they are takers? These are entrepreneurial, traditional value, family oriented Americans. They have Republican values. They are welfare averse. Yet they voted for Obama because he persuaded them that he cared about minorities, and Republicans didnt. That is they didn’t communicate to America’s minority populations that they cared for them. It’s always so easy to blame others for your own screw ups.
The 2012 campaign was all about message. Romney and the Republicans were tarred and feathered for imaginary crimes wars against women (no free contraceptives), minorities and the middle class. The Democrats’ message machine blistered their opponents day in day out. Anyone remember a Republican attack ad? Republicans didnt lay a finger on Obama and the Democrats for their wars against women, minorities and the middle class. They hardly mentioned the suffering of these groups under Obamas policies. They didnt dare raise the issue of his betrayal of all our soldiers who gave their lives in Iraq to keep it from falling into the hands of Iran. They were silent over his criminal betrayal of our embassy in Benghazi, and the fact that he has aided and abetted the Muslim Brotherhood in its conquest of the Middle East. That he is supplying weapons to Al-Qaeda.
There is a famous poem by Bertolt Brecht called The Solution about the revolts against the Soviet occupation of East Germany. Its a sad day when Frontpage and a gifted writer like Bruce Thornton embrace this solution:
After the uprising of the 17th of June
The Secretary of the Writers Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?
Enough voters apparently bought the Obama lines without lookign into it further. It still says something negative about the voters. It’s culturally hip to be a minority. It’s culturally hip to be dependent. It’s culturally hip to be a violent predator. It’s culturally unhip to defned yourself against predators. It’s culturally unhip to pull your own weight. It’s culturally unhip to be a white male.
There was 1/12 to 2 months between when Romney sewed up the nomination and the convention. During that time, Obama was running nonstop attack ads against Romney in my State. Romney did nothing during that time. He only started his ads after the convention. By that time, it was too late.
I don’t know why they did what they did, but it did not work.
Excuse me: That was one-and-one half to two months.
Jim you may find this interesting:
Its the Message and Yes the Messengers NOT the Voters
Its Not the Message, Its Not the Messenger, Its the Voter
That shows that the GOP is clueless.
The ‘name brands’ are running around advocating a bigger tent, amnesty, concessions, inclusiveness.
The GOPe treat the conservatives as more the enemy than the Dem-e.
The GOPe has become the Dem-lites.
The GOPe does know how to triangulate the conservatives: let the conservatives run half-a-dozen candidates and split the primary votes.
OTOH, the conservatives are also stuck-on-stupid. They keep chasing after the GOP and claiming they cannot abandon the Republican party.
The Republicans, both GOPe and conservatives, exemplify that definition of insanity: Doing (voting for) the same thing and expecting a different result.
Conservatives hung onto GW Bush and he was screwing them the whole time — calling it Compassionate Conservatism. The conservatives complain about Obama’s spending (#1 biggest spender in history), while they conveniently overlook Open-checkbook George, who was the #2 biggest spender.
Underlying the GOPe is that they don’t really mind being the minority. They don’t have to work as hard, writing up bills and such. They can criticize everything the other side does — and then meet with some of those ‘friends across the aisle’ for drinks after the close of business. And they still get a turn at the money trough.
All I know is that producing a crappy product then blaming the consumer is a losing strategy.
Obama won because he had a grass roots organization (started in 2008 and expanded upon for four years) that left not one stone unturned to locate their voters and get them to the polls.
Romney didn’t have that kind of operation. Also Romney came out of a primary that badly splintered GOP voters. Many just never got on board Romney’s ship.
The attack ads against Romney did damage him, but not fatally. In the weeks leading up to the election, polls consistently showed Romney leading. I don’t think all those polls were wrong. My theory is that many who told pollsters they were going to vote for Romney just stayed home.
I read these comments over and over again not only here, but on other conservative sites: “Obama and Romney are no different.” (I disagree wholeheartedly, but those who felt this way would not be convinced otherwise.)
When you think the candidates are the same, why bother voting at all?
Obama won because the media, celebrities, and the educators love him. Without the constant drumbeat of love and approval coming from those information sources the people would not be in love with him.
They prop him up. He’s not perfect. His team is not perfect. Those groups provide cover for all his blemishes. They have perfected their propaganda techniques to the point that people no longer believe their own eyes and ears.
Only the ones Romney unleashed in the primaries.
IT IS VOTER FRAUD!
Even if we have our own messiah, their voter fraud will add enough votes to defeat us!
In the countryside (Ohio), where Romney appeared to win mostly in rural counties, there remained *many* Reagan-Democrats who did not vote for the Presidential ticket because Bush signed the TARP protecting the banksters.
A lot of these Reagan-Democrats are gun owners who voted for Obama in 2008, and last November, they could not bring themselves to vote for Romney ... again, because of the TARP, which means to them, that the GOPe is wholly out to make life easy on banksters.
The only reason that I’ve found, why some Reagan-Democrats voted for Romney, was to protect the 2nd Amendment; some of the fellows got that, despite their dislike of the duplicitious, back-stabbing, “political capital” grabbing *habits* of the GOPe For Low Taxes For The GOPe.
I would like to know just how we can get the message out to all those people. We could have had a better primary with better candidates (though slightly IMHO), could have better unity at the convention (though the GOP wonks don’t seem to care about such things), Romney could have been a better communicator on issue early on rather than relying on anti-Obama sentiment not to mention the kid glove treatment Romney gave compared to how he treated his opposition in the primary. Still I don’t think it would have mattered as much, and at best he would have won by just squeaking by if we where lucky. Our problems with communicating with those who voted for Obama, run much deeper.
We can place a lot of blame on the complete disaster our educational system has become in most parts of the country. There are some exceptions of course, but not too many. No discipline which goes back to the Ivy League colleges after WWII (probably before) when they didn’t really hit back at the childish demeanor of the students that ushered in the 60’s mentality. That failure has sure filtered on down through the rest of the system. Still the people themselves did not take notice for the most part, the few that did warned about had no effect on the vast majority, and then there where the large yet still few that stood around and did nothing.
Medicine has now been totally corrupted in the psychiatric area, and now with the passage and ‘law of the land’ Obamacare, so will the rest.
Entertainment, how do we communicate through this device? By its very nature it is devoid of reality and is not cool to let reality set in as has been point out by another poster. There was a time when this was different even if a number of the old school where diehard leftist or communists.
Then there is the media, which to be quite frank is so close to entertainment category now that is almost indistinguishable. It is void of so many day to day stories both good and bad. At least in the U.S. it is very self-centered toward a normalcy bias that no longer exists. Of course there is the manner in which the reporting is done or the fact that opinion is pushed off as actual fact. And we continue to slide down the road of brutish and thugishness in this circus once known as journalism. Now its safe to say that most of these people are propagandists. Truth and facts that are counter to their beliefs are absolutely not allowed to see the light of day. Anything that is remotely possible to twist into “truth” at the expense of reality is jumped on like a pack of hyenas on the worn down lion or wildebeest. Anything right or good is completely tossed to the side without second thought. All that said we have the internet for people to inform themselves and they don’t. Also it really isn’t that hard to do either. People just are not apathetic, its like they have something thick and milky glazed over their vision and judgment which also goes for a number who are somewhat conservative or at least act like it.
How about communicating the economic scene in our country? Housing market caused by government policy, regulators turning a blind eye, top of the food chain people in business and especially the financial service sector who had no will to speak out and educate the public of the oncoming disaster either because they were intimidated; were in on it with the politicians and regulators; or did not care. Where are the investigations? Why are there no regulators being fired. Why do only a few politicians pay for it at the ballot box while many others stay on? How about John Corzine and stealing nearly $2 billion dollars to pay for bad trades that where a no brainer in terms of being not a good idea and is fundraising for a very corrupt president? Far to many dont see a problems since it doesnt directly affect them, so they tell themselves.
So with all that has happened just in the last 10 years, especially the last 4, how do we communicated right and wrong? How do we penetrate that seemingly thick wall of no one cares, no one is accountable for their actions, no one is at fault unless you are the fall guy or the target of demagogue tactics. How do we communicate a path that leads to prosperity when all one has to do is point out the past and yet you cannot find a very large audience to listen, and most of those who are listening are the choir. How to we communicate to people when all they want to hear is a pretty lie, rather than the ugly truth?
The problem is us as a people; as a voter; as whatever profession we practice in our daily lives to earn a living. We are crass, vulgar, impolite, impertinent, callow, selfishness, on godly, and any other of litany of descriptive yet apt words of cultural ugliness that can be thrown in. We do not live by Gods standards, and while many do know of him, they do not know him, and I will add they also dont want to get to know him. We have, as a people, thrown away our humanity for the conveniences of the day, most of which are superficial in origin as they dont contain anything substantive that would keep us on the good path. So I ask again, how do we communicate to those that fit into what is described above? Currently, I see no avenue by which this can be achieved other than the school of hard knocks, and I suspect that is where God will eventually come into play once again because we as a people have clearly demonstrated that we have no willingness to take on that responsibility.