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NBC/WSJ poll: For first time, majority thinks abortion should be legal in all or most cases
Hotair ^ | 01/22/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 01/22/2013 8:23:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind

If you're hung over from drinking the blues away on Inauguration Day, bad news: It's time to open another beer. New numbers on the 40th anniversary of Roe:

According to the poll, 54 percent of adults say that abortion should be legal either always or most of the time, while a combined 44 percent said it should be illegal – either with or without exceptions...

In addition, a whopping 70 percent of Americans oppose the Roe v. Wade decision from being overturned, including 57 percent who feel strongly about this...

By comparison, just 24 percent now want the Roe v. Wade decision overturned, including 21 percent who feel strongly about this position.

Much of this change, the NBC/WSJ pollsters say, is coming from African Americans, Latinos and women without college degrees --- all of whom increasingly oppose the Supreme Court decision from being overturned.

Before today the highest number NBC/WSJ had recorded for keeping abortion legal in all or most cases was 49 percent in 2008. When you drill down into that data, you find that the number who want abortion legal in all cases — no exceptions, presumably not even for late term — is 31 percent, which is also a new high. Say this for Obama’s new coalition — they elected the right guy.

As for overturning Roe, despite the sturm and drang of Supreme Court confirmation hearings, Americans have never been keen on doing so. Pew’s recent poll on abortion found 63 percent opposed to the idea; in 1992, the number was 60 percent. NBC/WSJ sees a bit more movement over time but support for the status quo has been constant through the years in their data too:

Why the recent uptick? NBC’s pollsters speculate it's partly a backlash to the Akin/Mourdock rape comments last year, but I don’t know. My sense is that backlashes like that tend to burn out fairly quickly. Obama won and Akin and Mourdock both lost, so the “threat” of a post-Roe world has passed for abortion supporters. I think the likelier explanation, as noted in the excerpt, is changing demographics. Pew published a set of polls a few weeks after the election showing that the 18-to-29 group that got Obama reelected was also the age demographic most supportive of keeping abortion legal in all or most cases. They were also far more likely — 14 points more likely — than any other age group to say that government should do more than that government is doing too much. Imagine their surprise when they find out America can’t pay for the government it has right now.

Now that you’ve digested those numbers, try to digest this one. Exit question: Do these numbers augur the eventual end of SCOTUS confirmation fights over Roe? A newly elected Republican president would be caught between social conservatives in his base, who want the decision overturned, and pretty much the entire rest of the electorate, which doesn’t. Makes me wonder if GOP candidates won’t start veering away from the idea of getting rid of Roe via new appointments and pushing the idea of a Human Life Amendment instead. They could sell it is a true democratic solution, the way the Founders intended, knowing all the while that it hasn’t a prayer of passing.

Update: Almost forgot: If you believe Pew, a majority of the 18-to-29 group that’s now steering the ship of state and that strongly opposes overturning Roe doesn’t know which issue Roe v. Wade actually dealt with.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2013polls; abortion; anniversary; msmlies; proaborts; prolife
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To: Cowboy Bob
Conservatives don’t abort their children. Liberals do. Why should we stop them?

If abortion had been illegal all this time and all those babies born, Obama would have beaten McCain & Romeny by 60%+ and he would have been following an eight year Gore Presidency

51 posted on 01/22/2013 9:37:42 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: svcw
The fact of the matter is that the Republicans were outmaneuvered and outflanked on every social issue: taxes, healthcare, abortion, etc.

For Cripe's sake, the Dems were running anti-Akin ads in congressional disctricts. In Illinois. That they had locked-up.

It is the height of inside-the-bubble thinking to think anyone thought Romney was as lib as Obama. The only people who thought so were Republicans themselves.

52 posted on 01/22/2013 9:38:35 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: SeekAndFind; onyx
Like we needed another reason to be depressed....

:-)

53 posted on 01/22/2013 9:40:06 AM PST by Lakeshark (!)
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To: Lakeshark

Low information voters. Or to be blunt, idiots.


54 posted on 01/22/2013 9:41:25 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I own a weapon to protect my family from those wanting to take that weapon away.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Conservatives don’t abort their children. Liberals do. Why should we stop them?

Two reasons:

1) It is a definite eventuality that they will demand that WE pay for their abortions (already happening.)

2) Ask any current-day conservatives who were born to liberal parents but saw the light.

55 posted on 01/22/2013 9:42:20 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Monty22002

Here we go...the push to drop all social issues.

You GOP cowards can cave to the murder crowd all you like. “Evolve” on abortion, sodomite marriage, amnesty...all of it, if you must. You will win your elections without me.

Obama and his minions sicken me. People who know better, yet throw out their principles and what they KNOW to be right in order to go along, make me want to projectile vomit.


56 posted on 01/22/2013 9:55:22 AM PST by CatherineofAragon (Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization)
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To: Monty22002
When the left has an issue that they "can't live around" (and they have plenty) they don't leave. They get loud and in our faces and guess what? Popular or not, they eventually win because they wear the system and the people down. It happened in the past with abortion, it is happening now with gay marriage and-unless something changes-it will happen tomorrow with euthanasia and the abolition of age of consent laws.

Yet you counsel pro-lifers to leave? No dice. Whether you be a lib Pubbie or a Dem concern troll you'd probably like that, but I'm not going anywhere.

57 posted on 01/22/2013 9:56:00 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: Longbow1969

Do you really care what anybody in NY does?? I’m convinced we’re losing elections because of this one issue and it isn’t clear to me that abortion is any MORE evil than having demoKKKrats win elections; demoKKKrats winning elections creates vast evil all over the world.


58 posted on 01/22/2013 9:56:33 AM PST by varmintman
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To: fwdude

In training right now in ob-gyn. Got to see an 8 week “confirmatory” transvaginal ultrasound yesterday. The little form inside the woman’s womb was unmistakably human ...the little heart was just beating away, like a little flashing pulse. Came over loud and clear on the machine.

The parents were enthralled. She was 8 weeks. They were african american, so I was happy that they had not sacrified their child as so many AA’s do. Most abortions are “pushed” to take place at least before 12 weeks.

How can people look at this ...and then abort?

Why aren’t women offered these before the abortions?? If they saw this ...only the worse monsters would choose abortion.

I guess they prevent women from obtaining these early ultrasounds at Planned Murderhood. Telliing the truth would eat into profits.

Then again, I do feel there is a signficant portion of people now who KNOW it’s a baby, will admit it’s a baby, and yet have no problem doing away with it, if it’s inconvenient for them at the time. It’s just how it is ...they don’t care if it’s “not the right time” for them. It’s legal, they tell themselves, and so they go through with it.

Gotta really be “in the zone” to do that.


59 posted on 01/22/2013 9:58:29 AM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: SeekAndFind

I highly doubt the finding, although a previous poster’s mention of public schools does make sense.

If we wonder why Obama was re-elected and we wonder why America is becoming an irrelevant third world country, we need look no further than the public indoctrination system.

We turn our kids over to an indoctrination institution run by liberal NEA unionistas who own the Democrat Party. We give these people unfettered access to our children for 12 years to teach whatever they please. We note that the graduates of the public indoctrination system lack the skills to survive in America, but rack it up to the nonsense that they have more to learn and less time to learn it.

And then, we’re surpised that a Bill Clinton and Barack Obama get 8 years in the WH. We’re shocked that the same liberals and RINOs get re-elected to the congress. We’re stunned at the level of support for idiocy like Global Warming, green energy and Obamaphones and wonder how these things survive today.

And, the last place we look is the public indoctrination system because, after all, these are our kids we’re talking about. We raised them better than that, right?


60 posted on 01/22/2013 10:02:03 AM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for anti-American criminals!!)
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To: Mouton
Actually it is time for a new country.

Sadly, yes.

61 posted on 01/22/2013 10:06:12 AM PST by madprof98
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“How exactly will society function when half the population was raised in this manner; without work ethic, dependent on government handouts, and without a father for moral guidance? Will the other half work twice as hard to support these crime prone vagabonds through redistributive taxation? And why should we be surprised when these morally bankrupt government dependents vote for the welfare king, Barack I?
God help our children, because the United States as we know it has ceased to exist.”

The simple answer is that, after a while, it won’t function any longer.

The United States hasn’t “ceased to exist” quite yet, and it still has a way to go before that can happen. But it’s entirely feasible that within the lifetimes of the younger folks reading this, it -will- cease to “exist”, at least in its present form of borders, and quite possibly, government.

This is why the continuing “divide” between the red states and the blue states is becoming more important. As the blue states become more dysfunctional, the red states seem to be “holding on” somewhat to the more traditional “old ways”. We are even seeing the beginnings of a mass-migration of the “producing citizens” from the blue “entitlee states” into the red “producer states”. The result is the reds will get redder as the blues get bluer.

If at some point the entire national government teeters on the verge of collapse (at least financial collapse), the red states may find themselves in a position to literally “break away” from the sinking blues.

But I don’t think that can happen until the DC government is broke — and by “broke” I mean that Social Security recipients stop receiving their deposits at the beginning of the month, the EBT cards run out and are no longer replenished, and the doctors and hospitals stop receiving Medicare/Medicaid payments from the government. Perhaps when the members of the U.S. military find they are no longer being paid, as well.

If it comes down to that, will they be willing to fight and die to preserve a “union” that no longer seems willing or even able to pay them?


62 posted on 01/22/2013 10:08:41 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Mouton

“Just trying to find a lead actor who could pull off that role would be a chore”

Jim Caviezel?


63 posted on 01/22/2013 10:09:10 AM PST by rmichaelj
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To: Longbow1969

She/He is exactly right. As much as the GOP has willingly been steered to the Left, the GOP should leave it alone.

The new 3rd party that rises from the ashes, on the other hand....


64 posted on 01/22/2013 10:12:38 AM PST by i_robot73
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To: SampleMan

They need to poll outside of their news rooms.

The lefts goal is to split the Republican party and destroy it. Be careful what you read. The media has agreed, if you read the latest headlines, to help them do it.

Believe nothing you hear from the left wing media. They're attempting to alienate conservatives from the Republican party.

ALINSKI - Pick the target (conservatives), freeze it, personalize it, polarize it.

Nothing you'll be reading from the left wing media will be based on reality. They're on a mission.



65 posted on 01/22/2013 10:12:53 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: SeekAndFind
"Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever"

Thomas Jefferson

66 posted on 01/22/2013 10:13:22 AM PST by Dogbert41
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To: varmintman

I hear you what you’re saying. I was just throwing it out there to consider. You can’t just walk away from social issues a little bit. It’s kind of all or nothing. Whatever ground you retreat from the left is going take and push the envelope even further. Is there any boundaries we should fight on when it comes to things like abortion and social issues? And if so, aren’t we right back where we started - being the “out of touch” party fighting for conservative social positions. It’s not that easy to walk away from issues like abortion and others when you consider the other side is just going to keep pushing till you’ve reached a new place that seems unimaginable.


67 posted on 01/22/2013 10:13:50 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: SeekAndFind

This country isn’t worth patriotism anymore. What am I supposed to be proud of?

Work ethic? It’s non-existent in my generation.

Faith? Again, it’s dying in this country.

Rampant abortion? Rampant illegitimacy? Rampant welfare? Rampant ignorance? Asset forfeiture? Needless wars? Our movies? Our tv shows?

All of our best is in the past.

But as a Christian, I believe this is how I *should* feel, a stranger in a strange land. My country is God’s kingdom. It’s time for the flag-waving, military-loving conservatives here to ask if they have the right priorities.


68 posted on 01/22/2013 10:19:20 AM PST by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Exactly. As a long-time pro-lifer, those peons and their bizarro comments bear no resemblance to the (mostly female) antiabortion activists I’m familiar with. They are stereotypical good old boy politicians who should have been retired years ago.

Most urban, modern liberal types have limited contact with the pro-life movement and people like that simply play into the totally bogus stereotype of pro-lifers being old white men who have a tin ear for women’s concerns.


69 posted on 01/22/2013 10:25:50 AM PST by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Exactly. As a long-time pro-lifer, those peons and their bizarro comments bear no resemblance to the (mostly female) antiabortion activists I’m familiar with. They are stereotypical good old boy politicians who should have been retired years ago.

Most urban, modern liberal types have limited contact with the pro-life movement and people like that simply play into the totally bogus stereotype of pro-lifers being old white men who have a tin ear for women’s concerns.


70 posted on 01/22/2013 10:25:55 AM PST by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com/)
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To: Lakeshark

I’m so sick of these godless people.
Happily aborting their own.


71 posted on 01/22/2013 10:32:23 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s amazing how many people are falling for this blatant propaganda. Abortion opinions move at glacial speed, meaning the numbers don’t make giant leaps in a period of 30 days. Furthermore, the neo-Nazi propaganda tool, Pew, which has been caught numerous times lying its ass off, is involved.

Enjoy your French surrender parade.


72 posted on 01/22/2013 10:33:19 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: LifeComesFirst

It is when we all play safe that we create a world of utmost insecurity. It is when we all play safe that fatality will lead us to our doom. It is with the "dark shade of courage" alone that will allow the spell to be broken.



73 posted on 01/22/2013 10:34:00 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Road Glide
Really good post, food for thought.

We are even seeing the beginnings of a mass-migration of the “producing citizens” from the blue “entitlee states” into the red “producer states”. The result is the reds will get redder as the blues get bluer.

This is actually a key point. There are some incidences of it, but I'm not sure it is happening on large scale yet - nor is it all to the benefit of the red states. I am in Virginia and we watch our influx of immigrants and transients from other states simply vote the way they did back home. They are like locusts, they don't connect their voting habits to the basketcase status their home states have. Also remember a lot of red states are being overrun by Hispanic demographics which are a solid Democrat voting block.

Still, this is vitally important. Red states need to become redder in order to go in exactly the opposite direction as the blues. That means red states need to advertise in blue states on issues that are very likely to encourage conservative migration to said red state. A good example is 2nd amendment preservation. You run ads in New York encouraging gun owners to move to Texas, and your almost certainly importing Republicans to the Lone Star State.

The more we can push this divide, the more pressure is on blue states to compete. And they can't, and they probably know it. That will mean the left will attempt to use the Federal Govt to level the playing field by imposing the high taxation and onerous rules on all states equally (something they already know is important to their movement). This might provoke a fight sooner rather than later between red states and the Federal Government, perhaps before everything has gone to hell and there is nothing left to save.

74 posted on 01/22/2013 10:34:11 AM PST by Longbow1969
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To: LibsRJerks
How can people look at this ...and then abort?

Many can't, which is why the pro-death (that's really what they are) crowd is screaming to high heaven over any ultrasound laws passed by legislatures, as they did in my state of Texas.

75 posted on 01/22/2013 10:36:11 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: All

I believe last year was the first year since Roe, that a majority, 51% were against abortion.

So, what’s the big mover this year?

Probably a movie on the Oprah Network.

That’s what we’re dealing with people. Americans who are brain dead and lack moral values.

We all know what the Founders stated clearly regarding our Republic and a moral and informed public.


76 posted on 01/22/2013 10:41:03 AM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is 100% contrary to everything I see in dealing with ordinary people. When debating in a neutral forum on Facebook--and even in some places hostile to the pro-life side--the pro-abort side is hopelessly outnumbered, out-matched and out-classed. Support for the pro-life position comes from some truly unexpected places.

In short, I don't believe this BS poll even for a nano-second.
77 posted on 01/22/2013 10:45:32 AM PST by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: flowergirl

Amen...there’s another just out that says only 41% are
“pro-choice”....
Don’t believe the a**hole “media”...


78 posted on 01/22/2013 10:45:39 AM PST by matginzac
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To: Road Glide
The result is the reds will get redder as the blues get bluer.

The wheat is being separated from the chaff.

If a major natural disaster hits, or even an economic collapse, the people in the blue states will reap what they've sewn.
IF there ever is a pole shift as Einstein predicted, it is the blue states that will be lost to the ocean. It'll be the time of "The Great Cleansing."

People are being separated for a reason - a harvest. Up until now, the weeds and the wheat were allowed to grow up together, for fear the wheat would be harmed. When it's time for the "judgment", the two must be separated, so the wheat will be safe.

It's all coming together now, isn't it?.

79 posted on 01/22/2013 10:45:41 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Monty22002

Yep. Is the party leadership taking steps to prevent a repeat of this fiasco in 2014, or are they sitting on their thumbs again?


80 posted on 01/22/2013 10:48:52 AM PST by frizzled
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To: varmintman
This article is obvious propaganda and poll manipulation.

Ask yourself, if this is true why are the old hags at NARAL freaking out?

NARAL Prez to Resign: Says Pro-Choice Side Getting Too Old
(October 2012) NARAL’s pro-abortion president, Nancy Keenan, announced today she will resign her position at the end of the year to help the pro-abortion group overcome one of the problems plaguing the pro-abortion movement — a lack of young leaders....

...Anecdotally, Keenan related the story of getting off her train in Washington during the weekend of the March for Life, which saw 400,000 pro-life advocates fill the nation’s capital to rally against abortion.

She saw huge numbers of teenagers and young adults that she doesn’t typically see at pro-abortion rallies.

“I just thought, my gosh, they are so young,” Keenan recalled. “There are so many of them, and they are so young.”
Don't forget, these people kill babies for money. Lying is nothing to them.
81 posted on 01/22/2013 10:52:12 AM PST by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: varmintman

Or, to put it another way....

The average female voter in this country would rather elect Hitler, Stalin, or Pol Pot than to run the risk that maybe, possibly, somehow, someday, somebody might pose an impediment to their ability to get an abortion. Provided they ever needed one.

That is really MESSED UP!


82 posted on 01/22/2013 10:55:10 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

I find this hard to believe. Polls in recent years have shown young people moving away from supporting abortion.


83 posted on 01/22/2013 10:58:18 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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To: brownsfan
doesn’t know which issue Roe v. Wade actually dealt with.

29% answered "a throw-down between two celebrity chefs on Food Network".


84 posted on 01/22/2013 10:59:31 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Mr. Lucky
As bad as Romney was, Allen, Mourdock and Atkins were worse. Not because they were liberals, just the opposite. They were professed conservatives who expressed views on abortion which were so bizarre that they set the pro-life movement back substantially.

Nope, you missed it completely.

Mourdock and Adkins statements were pounced on by the media, twisted, perverted and made a ridiculous cause celebre. The difference was that in decades past, the Republican party nominee at the top of the ticket at least pretended to be a pro-lifer with stones and was happy to fight with the media about the issue and articulate our side in a meaningful way.

Not so with Romney. He piled on Mourdock and Adkins and in doing so, we lost a major opportunity to educate the public on pro-life issues.

THAT is the difference. And THAT is why I will never vote for another Republican who is not a staunch, articulate pro-lifer. To hell with them otherwise.
85 posted on 01/22/2013 11:01:06 AM PST by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: Antoninus
I see.

A Republican senate candidate makes a politically insensitive, wholly inane, demonstrably false claim regarding the physiology of a woman during rape and it's the media's fault for jumping on it?

86 posted on 01/22/2013 11:08:30 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: SeekAndFind

I wouldn’t trust NBC if they told me the sky was blue. They have a long reputation of lying, bias, obfuscation, leftism, attacks on conservatives and Republicans, Reagan and Palin-bashing, slanting the news and omitting anything unfavorable to those they like.


87 posted on 01/22/2013 11:13:26 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The headlines are misleading. Dig down deep into the poll and it’s doesn’t back up the assertions.


88 posted on 01/22/2013 11:18:54 AM PST by Fledermaus (The Republic is Dead: Collapse the system. Fire all politicians and impeach the judges.)
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To: fwdude

There is no shortage of Republicans who really believe that government-funded abortions would be a dandy way to cut the welfare rolls. They’ve largely been hiding under a rock since Reagan, but they’ve always been out there.


89 posted on 01/22/2013 11:19:28 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Mr. Lucky
A Republican senate candidate makes a politically insensitive, wholly inane, demonstrably false claim regarding the physiology of a woman during rape and it's the media's fault for jumping on it?

No, it's the media's fault for turning one questionable comment into "GOP says women must accept rape" meme and the Romney-idiots fault for giving credence to that meme with their weak, meandering and defensive responses, most of which focused on bashing the GOP senate candidate in question.

The proper response would have been a thorough-going defense of the entire pro-life position writ-large for the whole country to see. Such a presentation, done by an articulate and affable candidate (Romney was neither), would have made the media back off immediately.

But the GOP didn't do that either because 1.) they are stupid or 2.) the leadership is not really pro-life anymore. They just pretend to be for votes.
90 posted on 01/22/2013 11:29:18 AM PST by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All
I just noticed another thread which essentially indicates the opposite of this thread concerning public support for abortion.
"Pro-Choice" Americans at Record-Low 41% [May 2012]

What am I overlooking?

91 posted on 01/22/2013 11:38:08 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The average female voter in this country would rather elect Hitler, Stalin, or Pol Pot than to run the risk that maybe, possibly, somehow, someday, somebody might pose an impediment to their ability to get an abortion. Provided they ever needed one.

That is really MESSED UP!

GRANTED that is messed up, the question is, is it AS messed up as allowing demoKKKrats to win national elections? It isn't clear to me that it is. This is the closest thing the dems have to a winning issue and their advertising last summer and Fall, at least in the swing states, featured little else.

My brother's next door neighbor told him she'd like to vote for RR based on economic and business positions but that "I have a teenage daughter, I can't chance it". That's what we're dealing with. It's probably the case that conservatives needs to redouble their efforts at changing people's hearts, and drop any efforts or thoughts about changing laws. Dems view this one the way we view the 2'nd amendment i.e. they're willing to go to war over it.

92 posted on 01/22/2013 12:08:48 PM PST by varmintman
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To: RIghtwardHo
Exactly. The longer we live in the bubble the worse it will be .... and it is BAD.

So are you going to change your screen name to "Leftward Ho"?

93 posted on 01/22/2013 12:26:13 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Amendment10

You’re overlooking the completely different questions in the two polls; Gallup was asking if people identify THEMSELVES as “Pro-Choice” and “Pro-Life” - the polls in this thread are asking people for their opinions on specific laws and policies.

Many people who don’t feel comfortable with identifying themselves as “Pro-Choice” support Pro-Choice policies.

A related or separate issue is how you ask the same question; if you asked “Should women be allowed to murder their unborn babies?” you’ll get mostly no answers; ask the EXACT SAME sample “Should women have the right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy?” you’ll get mostly yes answers.


94 posted on 01/22/2013 1:14:10 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Antoninus
Mourdock and Adkins statements were pounced on by the media, twisted, perverted and made a ridiculous cause celebre

They were pre-twisted, and didn't require the media to do the twisting. If Romney had supported Mourdock and Akin, he would have lost by 2-3% more than he did.

95 posted on 01/22/2013 1:19:09 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Monty22002
At best you could make it a state’s right case. At *best*. And a few might actually ban it. A national ban will never EVER happen. It’s going to start costing more and more elections. I don’t like abortion, but if you gotta make a fight out of it, I say move to a country that bans it or try to make it a state thing.

All I ever wanted was to see Roe v. Wade overturned. If a state wants abortion, let 'em have it. My problem was that some interventionist justices decided it was a Constitutional right when it wasn't, and prevented states from outlawing it if they so wished.

96 posted on 01/22/2013 1:39:50 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Missouri gal

Of course the poll is misleading. How can the majority of the country say they are pro-life, but also say they are OK with murdering the unborn. These are liberal polls. How many republicans will say it’s OK to murder the unborn? I rest my case. These liberal polls come out for one reason only, to be mentioned on the liberal news shows and repeated like they are gospel. Bill O’Reilly the faux Catholic will also mentioned it, probably tonight........and agree with it.


97 posted on 01/22/2013 3:10:33 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: Sans-Culotte

I’m sorry, rvw will never be overturned. I wish it could be, but that couldn’t happen with a full Bush appointed USSC much less a 6 or 5 con one. It’ll never, ever happen. And things are going more liberal, not less. That war is lost. We have to fight what we can and make up the losses much later in generations to come.


98 posted on 01/22/2013 3:24:52 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: Huskrrrr

time to change churches.


99 posted on 01/22/2013 9:09:31 PM PST by BrianE ("Dead at 25 buried at 65 the average American" - Benjamin Franklin 1776)
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To: Monty22002

i’m sorry but this country may not exist according to your time table.


100 posted on 01/22/2013 9:13:35 PM PST by BrianE ("Dead at 25 buried at 65 the average American" - Benjamin Franklin 1776)
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