Skip to comments.Obama Puts a Bulls-Eye on the Second Amendment
Posted on 01/22/2013 9:44:25 AM PST by Kaslin
Leave it to Barack Obama to come into his inaugural weekend with a bang, and not just on guns. Hes made it clear that he intends more spending, more regulation, more radical appointees and less national defense in his second term.
Since he just fired a load of executive orders on gun control like shotgun pellets at a duck hunt, I think its time to ask a few questions about this part of his agenda. The first ones for the president.
Why did you have children prominently displayed at your press conference? Were you implying that anyone who opposes your policies wants to see children shot? I think you were.
Second, did you really justify your assault on the Second Amendment partly by equating safe shopping with the right of assembly? Finally, in citing the right to life, did you see any irony in being the most pro-abortion president in history? You support even partial-birth abortion, and when you were a state senator, you killed legislation that would have required doctors to treat children who survive abortions.
Now heres a more general question: What exactly are executive orders?
You wont find them in the Constitution. Theyre derived from Article II, which confers executive power on the president to take care that all laws be faithfully executed. Executive orders are work orders from the president to employees of federal agencies. They do not apply to state or local governments. They direct the implementation of statutes that Congress enacts and which are signed by the president into law. If they go beyond this, they are unconstitutional.
A look at some of the 23 gun control executive orders that Barack Obama issued on January 16 leaves one wondering whether the president, as Clint Eastwoods Dirty Harry would say, is a man who knows his limitations. If a Republican president issued 23 executive orders on a single subject, the media would pronounce him obsessed.
One of the orders calls for incentives for states to share information with the background check system. Funny, Mr. Obama doesnt seem to want to apply this principle to voter registration in order to curtail vote fraud.
Mr. Obama also wants federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations. Since most criminal enforcement occurs at the local and state levels, this would seem to give the feds carte blanche to insert themselves into every crime scene that involves a recovered firearm. Maybe they already do that. I hope not.
Two more executive orders are for the feds to provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers, and to develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship and institutions of higher education. Those poor local school officials, clergy and college deans must never have thought of re-tooling, say, fire drills, for other emergencies, even after Columbine, Virginia Tech, and now, Sandy Hook Elementary.
One of the scarier orders directs the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks. It wasnt long ago that Janet Napolitanos Department of Homeland Security issued a report tagging pro-lifers, war veterans and opponents of illegal immigration as potential terrorists.
Then theres the doc snitch. Federal officials are to clarify that the Obamacare law doesnt prohibit doctors from asking about guns in patients homes. We have to wonder what the physicians are supposed to do with that information its a short step to requiring them to ask.
We need to keep in mind that gun ownership is not merely a Second Amendment issue. Guns are property, says Constitutional attorney Leah Farish. Infringement of Second Amendment rights should also be subjected to due process scrutiny under the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments. I do not think that executive orders amount to sufficient due process in this context.
Attorney General Edwin Meese III said last week that impeachment could be a proper remedy if President Obama uses an executive order to try to override the Second Amendment . Now there are some things he can probably do in regard to the actions of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, or some other governmental agency in its operations , Mr. Meese told Newsmax. But to impose burdens or regulations that affect society generally, he would have to have Congressional authorization.
Thats why Mr. Obama is urging Congress to enact a flurry of gun restrictions, from banning so-called assault weapons, prohibiting people from buying guns from private sellers without undergoing background checks, outlawing high-capacity magazine clips and a few other things that the anti-gun lobby wants.
All of this adds up to a mega-increase in federal law enforcement power and will require billions of dollars and thousands of new bureaucrats. Will it make us safer? Dont bet on it.
The strategy is not that hard to discern: Shoot the Second Amendment to pieces with high-velocity magazines full of executive orders and questionable legislation. And while youre at it, use some kids as political human shields in order to demonize your opponents.
“A look at some of the 23 gun control executive orders that Barack Obama issued on January 16”
Most are “memoranda” not EOs.
Everyone who stayed home or voted 3P — Thanks.
Next year, when obozo’s handlers target the 1A and specifically target FR (”hate speech” doncha know), I will thank you again in the last free post on the Internet.
I think 1934 might have been the time to start down that road. Every infringement has been an impeachable offense. We've had lots of infringements, but none have led to impeachments.
An executive order? It's flimsy way to get further infringements, but it is neither more nor less unConstitutional than an act of Congress which infringes our Second Amendment rights.
When doors are kicked in, and confiscations begin, there will be violence -- but until then, I do not expect much in terms of "congressional action" or "peaceful protests" in the town square.
Obama seems to constantly seek to be the poster child for the phrase “Judge a man by the enemies he makes.”
I think he sent you a message........
And you want to blame us?
Everyone who stayed home or voted 3P Thanks.
That only counts in battleground states.
Also, I have virtually no doubt that this election was stolen through massive voter fraud and I think the R’s were in on it. The reason? They all knew the cities would burn and we really might fall into civil war had Obama lost.
The stakes were just too high.
One begins to wonder if perhaps His Execrable Majesty King Barackus has ‘short eyes’ ...
>>. He was a poor candidate who did not attract attention or votes. He lost.
And you want to blame us?<<
Agree 100% And he lost for not being Conservative enough! How sad that But for a few worm-eaters we would have obozocare repealed.
We need the BEST and MOST CONSERVATIVE candidates we can get (see my post about my guy Ted Cruz).
But I 100% guarantee NO ONE will meet the FR “R U CNRVTV ENUF” test. NO ONE!
So we need to understand that the Scott Browns are sometimes the best we can do (like my 1st HS g/f). If you can get and run a Ted Cruz, GREAT!! Do it!
If not, it is time to settle for the lesser of all evils: The lowest RINO is 1,000% better than the most moderate liberal.
“B-b-but, Romney is just as evil and would have done the same thing! All hail Ron Pual!!!”
>>One begins to wonder if perhaps His Execrable Majesty King Barackus has short eyes ..<<
From the beginning of his public run everyone knew he had light loafers. Just like hillary had to close her eyes and pretend she was with a g/f (so did bill), likewise obozo had to pretend he was spooning some aide from his days as a “activist.” The difference is obozo was able to do it twice.
>>B-b-but, Romney is just as evil and would have done the same thing! All hail Ron Pual!!!<<
There is a lot going on in that one line post!
All of it smart! :)
I’m not nearly as worried about the feds as I am the state of MA. Noboby has covered Linsky’s gun control bill and it’s almost as bad if not worse than NY. If it passes I ‘m moving.
But a lot of people are like me. We vote for people who are not perfect. You know that a lot of people who voted for McCain were not voting for McCain -- they were voting for Sarah. The TV was filled with hate for Sarah. We were constantly told how flawed she was. Definitely not "perfect". But an awful lot of people rushed out on election day, eager to vote for her because, even with her flaws, she was the real deal.
The GOP has two paths:
1) Tell the voters to jump on the bandwagon and support anyone the Establishment picks for them.
2) Break away from the GOP-e mindset, find a candidate -- even if flawed -- who can excite the base.
We've been doing option #1 for a long, long time. And I'm tired of the voters taking in the shorts when it turns out that option #1 is a bad option. Maybe -- just maybe -- the GOP should develop a tolerance for Conservative candidates, even if those candidates have flaws. I mean -- Herman Cain? Do you realize was a small, petty, insignificant thing was used to get him out of the race?? The GOP does not stand up for anyone who isn't "perfect". Mitt Romney sure seemed "perfect". How did that work out?
My view is that the voters will embrace imperfection -- but the GOP will not. And that's the problem.
Why don’t you also blame the GOPe for running a centrist republican that couldn’t even win his home state?
Yes, there are a lot of “true believers” here on FR.
Obama’s goal is as clear as day... to separate the social/religious conservatives on the right from the fiscal/political/military/economic conservatives. If he succeeds, the liberals will be in power for a loooong time.
Reagan once said “never let the perfect be the enemy of the good”. If these two camps do not learn to compromise and get “half a loaf”, and GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE INTO POWER, we will keep losing.
If people want to “stand on principle” fine, but they will be standing alone in the wilderness. Get people who would be amenable to listening to you into power. If you do that you will have a shot at convincing them to go your way. Do you think Obama is going to listen to you?
The leftists have been patient enough to master the “long march through the institutions”. These institutions today are mainly the media and the universities and schools. If we don’t do that we will be (and are) in a lot of trouble.
“You want to blame us?”
I am not responsible for that bit of the most utterly stupid political event since the Republicans ran Wendell Willkie (who really was a registered Democrat).
When the party big dogs put in a guy who can't win, it's all their fault.
Why doesn’t Obomber just gut the bill of rights in its entirety?That way we can be really assured of being safe.
Better yet I’ll take that back because he would probably do it and get away with it knowing the republicans.
He got caught by the Carter kid saying he was trying to get the votes of the undecided 10% in the middle ~ the moderates.
What a complete idiot.
The Roman historians tell a story about the German hero Arminius, a.k.a. Hermann der Hrusker (the Cheruscan -- the Cherusci were a powerful German tribe in Bavaria 2000 years ago) -- and how he died.
The kings of the German tribes were like the minor khans of central Asia: neighborhood wise men whom people consulted for their knowledge and judgment, and in addition led the German tribes in war. But it was the custom among the Cherusci that kings, like khans, were not absolute rulers but rulers-by-influence, and they never commanded kinsmen but asked them if they would do a thing.
One night in 9 AD after his great victory over the Romans in the Teutoberger Wald, where Arminius's Germans destroyed three full Roman legions and their auxiliaries under Quinctilius Varus in a days-long running battle, Arminius decided that the time had come to assert kingly power over his fellow-tribesmen, and so he picked his moment and directed a command, in the imperative mood, to a cousin. The man froze, as did everyone else, as they realized what was happening, and then the insulted kinsman picked up a spear and drove it right through Arminius, killing him instantly where he sat. Then, untouched, he walked out of the assembly. Nobody laid a finger on him or recriminated, because every man-jack knew he had just defended his, and everyone's, rights and the people's dignity as citizens of the tribe, not subjects of Arminius.
Thus endeth the lesson.
Political (I Think you mean Neocons)
That's part of the list. Bit we also have:
Anti slavery Republicans
The American Traditionalists are probably the largest group, and they're pretty stable. There's some give and take in the other groups as ethnic groups and geographic regions slide their coalition groups in and out of the major parties.
These elections are not about attracting Democrats to vote for our guys ~ they are primarily about getting Republicans and Conservatives to vote for a Republican, and to convince Democrats to stay home, or better, vote for our guy on specific issues.
Wholesale conversions don't take place in the campaigns ~ that happens long before!
The primaries should give us a pretty good idea of how motivated the regular party voters are to vote for any given candidate, or a category of candidate (e.g. a Conservative vs. a GOP-e type).
At no time in the early primaries did Romney demonstrate that the party's regular voters preferred a GOP-e candidate over a Conservative candidate ~ far from it in fact. He couldn't even win Republican voters to his banner.
The RiNO's will never produce an "exciting" candidate. They are hidebound about weeding out anyone with a personality, anyone with spirit and drive, anyone with courage. The RiNO/GOP-e crowd always offers the public noncontroversial, bland, boring, go-along/get-along candidates who won't rock the boat.
McCain's miserable performance of 2008 was still over a million votes better than Romney's.
Romney couldn't catch Obama, even after Obama spotted him 7,000,000 votes. Obama was vulnerable, after everyone saw what a left-wing dweeb he was, and the GOP couldn't catch him even with those huge advantages.
That's just pathetic.
>>Why dont you also blame the GOPe for running a centrist republican that couldnt even win his home state?<<
b/c that is not the point of the discussion (A discussion we DAMN WELL better be having now for 2016!!!)
The point is once the candidate is chosen (no matter how bad), the perfect is the enemy of the good. We had Romney shoved down our throats.
In the end, it was WE that chose him. Machinations aside, only little children are influenced by ads and posters. The children won.
Once that bitter pill was created we HAD to swallow it. If we are all saying NEVER AGAIN SUCH A BITTER PILL, great: I am on board (you would think we would have learned from McCain).
But all of life is choosing the least of evils. Rarely do we get to choose from the best goods.
Time for us to grow up.
The Affordable Patient Care Act states they are not allowed to do anything with it. They are free to ask. We are free to lie or refuse to answer.
The language in the Obamacare law says that doctors and insurance companies cannot use said info to deny care or raise rates nor can they create any database populated by said info. Nothing more.
Romney simply wasn’t marketable ~ he knew it, his eldest son knew it, I knew it. The party didn’t need any more information than that.
Oh, and leaving this clown in office another four years isn't too high a stake?
If the GOP was too cowardly to question voter fraud, because of a perceived outcome, they all must go.
That’s a Civil War II scenario.
Gun Confiscation will just have anyone in a position of authority shot on sight. No small town mayor would be safe.
In my opinion, that’s what enough gun owners will just go out and do.
Exactly correct. I know that will be the instinct among the small-town folk where I grew up. Local lawyers and judges would be in danger too.
High profile folks would have to quickly and publicly announce which side they were on or flee to the nearest urban area.
Oh, and leaving this clown in office another four years isn’t too high a stake?
>>If the GOP was too cowardly to question voter fraud, because of a perceived outcome, they all must go.<<
I gave up on them when they controlled both sides and the presidency and showed who they really are. My personal belief is that both the US and all of western civilization are on a downward death spiral that will end only when we hit bottom.
And yes, I believe the results will be of biblical proportions.
My faith is not in a political party or the voters. It is in Christ Jesus and God’s word.
There might be other bulls eyes in other places as well
My point is that a candidate has to earn each and every vote.
Romney did not earn enough votes.
A candidate earns votes through his appeal - intangible, physical, words, and deeds.
Romney did not have what it took. We got Romney as a candidate *because* the GOPe thought “anyone but Obama” would be good enough. -AND-
It would be too risky to have a candidate that wasn’t GOPe (Palin). Why? Because the GOPe and the democrat party are the two wings of the political ruling class.
The political ruling class will not easily give up its grip on the halls of power in the USA.
We have a fight ahead of us...
It doesn’t matter what the communist dictator wants to do - he ain’t getting the peoples’ guns without a bloody fight. Lots and lots of people will die and you can take that to the bank.
Just when you think you know the ending the unexpected happens.
Fools like Obozo ALWAYS destroy themselves, as we will eventually witness.
An 0bama victory also guarantees, in the fullness of time, civil war and burning cities.
This regime's sole gun control aim is that of reducing the armed might of American citizenry until it is overwhelmed by that of Øbozo';s jackbooted stormtrooper Homeland Security "private army" that he so desires.
"Gun control" 's sole aim:
An 0bama victory also guarantees, in the fullness of time, civil war and burning cities.
Think of it as one of those “kicking the can down the road” sort of things. There has been a lot of that going on the last ten years.
So it’s January 22, where’s the hag Feinstein’s AWB bill she was supposed to submit today? Classifying a normal semi auto over 10 rounds as a “machine gun” among other traitorous edicts?
(Of course Zero the Usurper jacked his mouth during his child exploitation photo op last Wednesday stating all “assault weapons” would be grandfathered but he lied through his purple lips again, so what else is knew.)
Let’s get the vote down in Senate and House already you incompetent clowns, what’s it gonna be? We’ve gotta put names too lists, I’ve got goodies who’s sale price is determinate on if a ban’s enacted, and other assorted tasks related to raising the black flag and slitting gullets.
I believe the end of this nation is near. Our guns will be taken from us. I don’t know exactly how but it will happen. It could be a nuclear explosion resulting in martial law and gun confiscation. It could be a lot of things. We lasted longer than Franklin thought we would.
I voted for McCain and feel like I wasted my vote. But, it wouldn’t have made any difference either way. There was too much fraud.
The end is over. Stand back, look at the past four years of Obamas triumph over capitalism and implementation of socialism. Takeover of GM and Chrysler, socialized healthcare, amnesty in every sense of the word, vast increase of federal workers as well as welfare, the rise and power of unions, Islamic sympathy, gun control and last but not least......complete voter control through fraud. Sounds like a how-to course taught by the communists in the 50’s huh? This all happened during his term as a moderate, we are facing four years of the real Barack Obama and the real agenda.
>>But, it wouldnt have made any difference either way. There was too much fraud.<<
And worse this time. And the GOP (except for a small number) is silent.
This is the end of our Republic. The left owns the media, the election rules, the whole ball of wax.
I am watching “Storage Wars.” We should just drop the whole damn thing on their heads.
But I won’t have kids asking me “why did you make us the USSR and protect my Rights, Daddy?”
The only answer left is “Honey, it is your turn in line! Bowl out just like we practiced at home!”