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Welcome to Citrus County, FL: We’ll shoot you in the back
gunssavelife.com ^ | 21 January, 2013 | GSL

Posted on 01/22/2013 2:35:28 PM PST by marktwain

Well, congratulations to Citrus County, Florida for providing America with the next Daniel Harless-style video.

Harless, of course, was the Canton, Ohio cop who threatened to execute a law-abiding card-carrying good guy for having the audacity to lawfully exercise his right to carry the means with which to protect himself. Harless was eventually canned (links to videos can be found here) and subsequently won his job back if he could pass a medical screening.

A couple of days ago, this new video from Citrus County, Florida made its splash. Now it’s gone viral. (Sorry we’re a little behind the curve. Believe it or not, we have a life outside of blogging.)

(Excerpt) Read more at gunssavelife.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; citruscounty; fl; guncontrol; secondamendment
Video at the link. I think that the CCW carrier will get a settlement out of this.
1 posted on 01/22/2013 2:35:36 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The site won’t load.


2 posted on 01/22/2013 2:46:21 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

I just clicked on the link. It came up for me.


3 posted on 01/22/2013 2:49:00 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

That cop repeatedly lies to the citizen. The citizen told the cop he had a permit immediately after the cop asked him why he had a gun. The cop also caused the accidental exposure of the weapon, which he then uses as an attempt to intimidate and browbeat the citizen.

I won’t even go into the poor procedures regarding the passenger in the vehicle.


4 posted on 01/22/2013 2:52:31 PM PST by Don W (There is no gun problem, there is a lack of humanity problem!)
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To: Rebelbase
The site won’t load.

Too many of us trying to access it at the same time. Try again.

5 posted on 01/22/2013 2:53:35 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: marktwain

I hope this guy sues the cop in civil court and takes every dime he will ever make in his life


6 posted on 01/22/2013 2:58:53 PM PST by digger48
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To: Rebelbase

Direct from Youtube: http://youtu.be/pns3_Peke30


7 posted on 01/22/2013 3:21:34 PM PST by Rio (Tempis Fugit.)
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To: marktwain
Other than the attitude, I saw nothing wrong with the original take down of the citizen.
The citizen did not state immediately that he was a permit holder and carrying concealed.
When the officer noticed the gun, he acted according to protocol.
The citizen acted like, "Whaaaaat? again?" sort of nonchalant, lackadaisical, almost exasperated.

Sorry, I don't see a settlement in this citizens future.

8 posted on 01/22/2013 3:30:51 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: digger48

“I hope this guy sues the cop in civil court and takes every dime he will ever make in his life”

The fact that this went this far is testimony that more confrontations are inevitable in the future unless the police begin exercising better judgement and treat their employers fairly. I would have cited the driver at most and that would have been the end of it based upon what I saw. And yes, the tactics fail! This ties up the citizen’s time and money and lawyers fees are cost prohibitive for most people. Besides, the cop won’t lose a dime but the taxpayers will and they are not the ones overseeing the police department. My opinion? You don’t want to know.


9 posted on 01/22/2013 3:31:19 PM PST by chulaivn66 (Semper Fidelis in Extremis)
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Un. Fricking. Believeable.

In 63yrs, I’ve never run into a bad LEO. Maybe I lead a sheltered life, but the several LEOs I have as friends would never do that crap. He’s a psycho.


10 posted on 01/22/2013 3:35:36 PM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s/15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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To: marktwain
Accidentally showing your concealed weapon, is not a crime! Passed by the Florida Legislature. Barney Fife was way out of line!

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2011/05/04/accidentally-showing-gun-not-a-crime-says-fla-legislature/

11 posted on 01/22/2013 3:41:07 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: marktwain

I live in Citrus Co. & never heard about this crazed Fl. Deputy Andy Cox. He needs to find another job that’s for sure.


12 posted on 01/22/2013 3:53:08 PM PST by jrcats (Going Galt!)
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I live in Citrus Co. & never heard about this crazed Fl. Deputy Andy Cox. He needs to find another job that’s for sure.


13 posted on 01/22/2013 3:53:34 PM PST by jrcats (Going Galt!)
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To: Just another Joe; All

So it is protocol to put every citizen you meet who you discover has a gun on the ground, and handcuff them without ever having probable cause that a crime has been committed?

What state are you familiar with? I can tell you that what you describe is not protocol in most states that I am familiar with.


14 posted on 01/22/2013 3:55:20 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Just another Joe
Sorry, I don't see a settlement in this citizens future.

Maybe not but it's been reported that the guy isn't going to be charged for anything..........

So who does that make at fault?

But I digress, what exactly is Fla law when it comes to a vehicle driver who is legally carrying a concealed weapon and is pulled over by a LEO?

And furthermore, what is the sense of the cop intensifying his harassment of the individual AFTER the driver DOES produce his CPL?

There's no question in my mind that this jerk had a case of the ass simply because he couldn't nail the driver for anything and thus had to make the driver kiss his ass and lick his boots......

15 posted on 01/22/2013 4:04:07 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Just another Joe

As a side note Joe, your vehicle registration is flagged with your Sec. of State indicating that you have a CPL..........So once the LEO enters your license plate number into his on board computer, he knows immediately that you may be carrying a firearm.


16 posted on 01/22/2013 4:11:41 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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To: Hot Tabasco

What is a CPL?


17 posted on 01/22/2013 4:27:10 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Just another Joe
Opinion's are like a "gluteus maximus," every body has one, and some (opinion's) stink worst than other's.
18 posted on 01/22/2013 4:56:56 PM PST by Stanwood_Dave ("Testilying." Cop's don't lie, they just Testily{ing} as taught in their respected Police Academy.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
What is a CPL?

Concealed Pistol License.......most people refer it as a CCW (Concealed Carry Weapon) license.

19 posted on 01/22/2013 5:09:58 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)
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Thanks, I kinda figured it was that but as you say CCW is more identifiable to most.


20 posted on 01/22/2013 5:32:14 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: marktwain
This fella was stopped and accosted by a criminal in a police uniform. He was threatened with murder, was lied to, was treated like a criminal and was slandered and lied about by the criminal in a uniform. If the wife had shot the police officer after the threat to shoot the man in the back and if I was on the jury, she would be found innocent.
21 posted on 01/22/2013 6:38:19 PM PST by trailboss800
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To: Just another Joe

You are right but no one will listen to you. If you get pulled over the first thing you tell the officer is that you have a ccw and that you are armed.


22 posted on 01/22/2013 6:41:02 PM PST by BBell (And Now for Something Completely Different)
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To: Just another Joe

Just another Joe.....just another bootlicker.


23 posted on 01/22/2013 6:44:16 PM PST by nvscanman
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To: digger48

This guy might sue and he’d likely win but it’s the poor taxpaying
citizens who will foot the settlement costs. The badgemonkey will
keep his job thanks to his union and he will suffer NO consequences.


24 posted on 01/22/2013 6:46:27 PM PST by nvscanman
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To: digger48
I hope this guy sues the cop in civil court and takes every dime he will ever make in his life

Problem is, not everyone has the means (money and time) to persue a lawsuit. Having said that, Hopefully someone will kill the cop and get him off the street, so he won't assault more good people. Yes, it's come down to that.

25 posted on 01/22/2013 6:56:47 PM PST by roadcat
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If you get pulled over the first thing you tell the officer is that you have a ccw and that you are armed.

Local radio discussed this for several days last fall over a similar incident. Many callers with LEO background.

concensus was....In Indiana, you are under no obligation to disclose that you have a firearm in the vehicle unless asked

On your person might be a stickier point .

Point being, why should a Constitutionally Protected, legal gun owner with papers be subjected to this kind of treatment over an expired tag or broken tail light?

26 posted on 01/22/2013 7:14:43 PM PST by digger48
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In Indiana, you are under no obligation to disclose that you have a firearm in the vehicle unless asked

Your mileage amy vary, I might add

27 posted on 01/22/2013 8:14:23 PM PST by digger48
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Video apparently has gone somewhat viral. Local Tampa station showed it on their evening newscast.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xpEyU-q_g0&list=UUK0UUsCjtMRNtS3BPh1Yc4w&index=11


28 posted on 01/23/2013 4:11:41 PM PST by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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