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Apple May Face First Profit Drop in Decade as IPhone Slows
Bloomberg | 1-22-13 | By Adam Satariano

Posted on 01/22/2013 3:40:22 PM PST by library user

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To: kevkrom

I block flash by default on my desktop computer. I turn it on for youtube. The main reason for me using flash-block extension on Firefox is to void out annoying advertising

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/flashblock/


41 posted on 01/23/2013 12:27:23 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: kevkrom

Think Flash should assassinated myself but, it still lives because it’s cheaper. I hate Flash knowing there are better techs but, even today there are people using XP based machines. in fact, I recently gave one to a friend and he was happy I didn’t give him a New computer, as he would to learn the New OS and he couldn’t bear it.


42 posted on 01/23/2013 12:28:11 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: dennisw

So which do you troll more, Apple’s products or their business model? Or are you an equal opportunity basher?


43 posted on 01/23/2013 12:28:56 PM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: DEADROCK
Can the surface map network drives? sign on to a domain?

The Surface RT tablets cannot. The Surface Pro tablets due out in the next few weeks should be able to.

44 posted on 01/23/2013 12:29:50 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

My biggest concerns on the Surface Pro is how it will compare to the existing “ultrabook” segment (including the tablet convertible models) and I have serious reservations about its battery life, given the specs put out so far. I really don’t have any worries that it won’t behave like a standard Win8 computer in terms of software, networking, etc.


45 posted on 01/23/2013 12:36:02 PM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: kevkrom
Apple's business model has never been about having the most market share (though they'll gladly take their 2/3 share of the tablet market) but of getting the best profits -- Apple gets about 75% of the worldwide smartphone profit, Samsung a little less than 25%, and everyone else a negligible amount.

That sounds like a reason to buy the stock, but to be suspicious of the product.

46 posted on 01/23/2013 12:37:23 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
That sounds like a reason to buy the stock, but to be suspicious of the product.

Explain, please. The way I see it, Apple's business model is to not get themselves involved in the "commodity" level of a market segment, because there's virtually no profit there, and "market share" is, in the end, meaningless to the bottom line. They aim at the most profitable portion of the market segment. Whether you agree with that approach or not, it appears to be working for them.

47 posted on 01/23/2013 12:41:04 PM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: IamConservative
I've thought for a long time that we will get to a point where each person will have a "device" of some kind that is completely integrated into our lives. When you get to work, it will be the device you use for work. In that car, it will be the device that you use to navigate, listen to music, etc. It will be the device you use to shop, buy and pay for things. At home, it will provide you access to information, will be the pathway to your entertainment choices. On Sunday, you will get your sermon from it if you so choose. Etc.

An enhanced smartphone could do this. It would have to have the features of a $1000 laptop in smartphone size. It would have to have mini-hdmi out so you could connect it to monitors, HDTVs. It would have to connect with an external keyboard...bluetooth? It would have to have much better video and storage than what you have today

If you want to go a little further into the future, this device will have a wireless man/machine interface. If you "think" a question, this device will go get the answer and communicate it to you telepathically. We aren't that far off. There are now robotic prosthesis that are controlled by thought.

In short; The Matrix. Question is,in a world this automated, what value can humans provide to earn a paycheck?

In America humans cannot provide this value and it is getting worse all the time because of computerization-automation. This is why I say "productivity" is a joke and the obsession with "productivity" is as stupid as it gets. It was better 50 years ago when all men's labor was needed in a pretty much zero unemployment (3.3% was acceptable and a part of job churning) economy. Human labor was so highly valued that we brought slaves here....But today the labor of those slaves ancestors is unskilled thus unneeded.

I don't know about telepathy. I think the robot will anticipate your thoughts by doing a brain scan or you will have wires to your brains hot spots

48 posted on 01/23/2013 12:42:12 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: kevkrom
My biggest concerns on the Surface Pro is how it will compare to the existing “ultrabook” segment (including the tablet convertible models) and I have serious reservations about its battery life, given the specs put out so far. I really don’t have any worries that it won’t behave like a standard Win8 computer in terms of software, networking, etc.

I don't think Microsoft set out to dominate the hardware market with the Surface tablet, but to set a benchmark. They will still make money on every Windows tablet computer sold.

49 posted on 01/23/2013 12:45:12 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: kevkrom

Jobs sucked too but he checked out early. All his billions from skimming the high end segments (like you and other Apple acolytes brag about) could not buy him an f’ing cure. Kind of pathetic. Steve Jobs—when your pancreas and liver are on fire you just might be a nasty bast##d, TCM says so


50 posted on 01/23/2013 12:47:18 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
An enhanced smartphone could do this. It would have to have the features of a $1000 laptop in smartphone size. It would have to have mini-hdmi out so you could connect it to monitors, HDTVs. It would have to connect with an external keyboard...bluetooth?

It would probably make more sense to have a wireless connection to displays, rather than HDMI. Probably some high-speed BlueTooth or ad-hoc WiFi. A system like this should only have one wire: the power cable, and induction chargers might even be able hide that, aside from initial setup.

I don't know about telepathy. I think the robot will anticipate your thoughts by doing a brain scan or you will have wires to your brains hot spots

Looking back at well over half a century of tech punditry, I think the one certainty is that we have absolutely no idea what the next big idea will be, or how it will change our lives. Which is good, in a way... I like surprises (nice ones, at least).

51 posted on 01/23/2013 12:48:13 PM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: kevkrom

“It would probably make more sense to have a wireless connection to displays, rather than HDMI”

You know better than me. Cheers. :)
I’m done for the day. I hope.


52 posted on 01/23/2013 12:51:46 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: tacticalogic
I don't think Microsoft set out to dominate the hardware market with the Surface tablet, but to set a benchmark. They will still make money on every Windows tablet computer sold.

Possibly. But it would be bad PR for them if it turned out to be a dud. (I don't think it will, but I'd be surprised to see more than a moderate success, at least from what I've seen so far -- then again, first iterations are always a bit shaky...)

53 posted on 01/23/2013 12:51:58 PM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: kevkrom
Explain, please. The way I see it, Apple's business model is to not get themselves involved in the "commodity" level of a market segment, because there's virtually no profit there, and "market share" is, in the end, meaningless to the bottom line. They aim at the most profitable portion of the market segment. Whether you agree with that approach or not, it appears to be working for them.

If you were a CEO looking to outfit your orgainzation with tablet computers, would you start looking for the one with the highest markup? If Apple doesn't want to be involved in the "commodity" level of the market segment that's fine, but they should expect to get removed from consideration by anyone who uses computers as a commodity. The people who talk about iPads and iPhones "taking over the enterprise" don't seem to understand the enterprise.

54 posted on 01/23/2013 12:53:16 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: kevkrom
Possibly. But it would be bad PR for them if it turned out to be a dud. (I don't think it will, but I'd be surprised to see more than a moderate success, at least from what I've seen so far -- then again, first iterations are always a bit shaky...)

Do you mind sharing what it is that you've seen so far that is the basis for this conclusion?

55 posted on 01/23/2013 12:56:33 PM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Vendome
Paritcularly so when I look at my mapping as I drive in an unfamiliar neighborhood or using websites that employ Flash. Apple hates Flash and it was demonstrated just last night when a friend tried use his iphone to play a rerun of Hawaii Five-0 through Apple TV.

You see he couldn’t find it on his phone but it showed just fine on mine, as well on my laptop.

Gee, that must be why Google just dropped Flash from Android Jellybean and Adobe stopped development of all mobile Flash. . . and why it has never been fixed to not solve the inherent battery draw issue or problems of security.

56 posted on 01/23/2013 1:55:12 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: BillM

My iPhone, iPad and Mac Pro do the same thing. Have since the introduction of iCloud.


57 posted on 01/23/2013 3:23:04 PM PST by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: Swordmaker

Fine by me. I hate Flash. It’s a resource hog in a day when there are better alternatives.


58 posted on 01/23/2013 4:17:18 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: tacticalogic

Thanks


59 posted on 01/23/2013 6:42:09 PM PST by deadrock
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To: BillM
It is pretty nifty to add a phone number to a contact on your Nokia and have it show up on your work computer and your wife's phone within seconds.

Yeah, it's nifty when iPhones and Android phones do it, too.

60 posted on 01/23/2013 11:39:02 PM PST by ReignOfError
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