Skip to comments.Phil Isn't the One Who Needs to Apologize
Posted on 01/23/2013 12:04:22 AM PST by Kaslin
Please tell me this is some sort of a sick joke.
Phil Mickelson is a professional golfer. He makes boatloads of money. Millions. Whats more, he makes boatloads of money for a lot of other people in the process, including generating massive contributions to charity. Hes a jobs creator and an engine of economic growth, as are many other pro golfers and athletes.
So Mickelson takes a look at his income tax burden, and is displeased. First we have Obama and the Democrats riding roughshod over the GOP and enacting a 4.6% tax increase on the evil rich. Then we have the voters of California doing what the voters of California have been doing shooting themselves in the foot by passing a ballot measure to raise state income taxes on the dastardly rich by another 3.32%. Now Mickelson is facing an income tax burden somewhere between 62 and 63%.
Mickelson is a smart guy, and he hires other smart guys to help him make economic decisions. These other smart guys undoubtedly told Phil to put his clubs in a bag and get the hell out of California. Do what most of the other pro golfers have done, move to Florida. No state income tax. Right there his tax burden goes down by 13.3%, not to mention the advantages in estate taxes and ad valorem property taxes. Trust me. I know.
So Mickelson suggests that he is going to have to make some drastic changes due to whats gone on in the last few months politically and being targeted both federally and by the state. And now guess what? Phil Mickelson is the personification of evil for suggesting hes going to do what tens of thousands of Californians have done cast his next vote with his feet. Mickelson gets hammered by the ObamaMedia and finally sidles up to the microphone and apologizes. He apologizes --- please sit down for this to anyone he might have upset or insulted.
Whisky Tango Foxtrot!
How upside down can things be in America? Mickelson is being called greedy. Really? So now we define greed as wanting to keep more of the money you earn? If thats greed, what do you call the moochers who go to the poll to vote for the politician thats going to take that money away from you and give it to them? Oh wait! I know! Obama voters!
Well since the proggies are demanding apologies from Mickelson, I think there are a few people I would like to see apologize my own self!
Lets start with Angel Adams. Maybe you dont remember her. The lovely and quite fertile Angel was found living in a motel room in Tampa with 12 of her 15 children by three different fathers. When the child welfare folks showed up with TV news crews in tow, she looked into the camera and announced Somebody needs to pay for all my children. Somebody needs to be held accountable, and they need to pay! No not kidding. Heres the video. Angel, by the way, has now downloaded No. 16 and was charged last October for battery on a police officer. Maybe Angel should be the one to hold a press conference and apologize to America on behalf of every woman who became pregnant by a man to whom she was not married, and then had a baby she knew she could not afford to raise.
Id like an apology as well from all of those people who have been studiously avoiding taking a job until their unemployment benefits run completely out. Youre bleeding the system dry. So apologize!
An apology is also due from the leaches who have been scamming the IRS for their Earned Income Tax Credit checks. EITC fraud is the most prevalent type of tax fraud in the US, costing the taxpayers hundreds of millions a year. Just fail to declare all your income and claim some extra dependents and the checks come flowing in! We dare not pursue these cheats, though, because that would be insensitive towards the poor. How about an apology you tax cheats!
While were at it, maybe the wizened citizens of Boca Raton, Florida who have been shown to treat their weekly visits to their doctor paid for by Medicare as really nothing more than a regular social gathering would like to apologize.
Those of you who chose drugs as your escape from reality would you like to apologize for what youve cost society in terms of crime and social services?
Oh yeah this list could go on for quite a while. The trouble is, the folks who really should be apologizing are favored constituencies of leftist politicians, while the folks we should apologize TO for plundering their wealth are greedy and the objects of constant derision and ridicule.
So, Phil. Youve learned your lesson, right? Do what you have to do to escape the moochers, leaches and parasites --- but hush about it. The predators get outraged when the prey escapes. I suspect well be seeing you in Florida real soon.
I’m “UPSET” that Mikelson “INSULTED” me. I believed that he was taking a principles stand on the increasing burden of taxation.
Instead the only “stand” he took was at the urinal of cowardice.
Damned. Is there anyone out there in America who will take a principaled stand and stick with it, or have we become a nation of craven, mealy-mouthed cowards and fops?
Phil is a great golfer and a nice guy. But a job creator he is not. None of the highly paid sports stars are job creators. They are entertainers who extract dollars from fans. Only real job creators are those who start or expand a business which provides a useful service or products which people can use. They sign checks on the front. Once the game is finished, the sports fans go home sans their ticket price money.
Oh bullcrap. People get paid by him. His product that generates income is entertainment. He is good enough in his field that people find him useful to have involved with their project. He employs numerous people. There are people that wouldn’t have a job tomorrow if he discided to sit home, read books, and put his money in a checking account.
He is as much of a job creator as a real estate business owner, as the apple guy, as a mortgage banker, etc. If you do something well enough that people will pay you for it, you just created a job. If you are really really good and need a staff to help you buy the Padres baseball team, manage your money, fly your gulfstream, maintain your gulfstream, etc, you are now a job creator.
Those people all have paychecks because of him. You may not like top athletes, but they do indeed often create demand that wasn’t there before. It isnt just factory owners that create jobs. He really isnt an athlete, he is a small business.
He should double down and complain louder.
Exactly. He should have moved,,, silently. Everything should have been quietly relocated to Texas or Florida. Then he should have sold his house and left.
Talk about it afterwards.
Tuco said it right.
I prefer Tuco in Breaking Bad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHiFzE9aVDQ
bttt for later reading; who can blame him? There will be more of this to come, I bet, in Obama’s second term.
Phil should take all his money and buy sugar plantations. His product price will be 100% protected by the government and he can hire illegal aliens by the thousands to do slave labor, while spreading their social costs on everybody else.
The Soviet Union didn’t count any services in their GNP, so to inflate their GNP number they would do things like build an extra 100,000 tractors and park them in fields to rust.
Of course, Phil didn’t “apologize” for what he said, merely that he said it out loud.
I don’t care if he apologized or not. I suspect he’ll be moving to someplace cheaper soon.
Sorry, but Mikelson gets lots of endorsement money. Those endorsements want a golfer and not a political commentator. He probably had an agent who let him know that, and at that time all he apologized for is making his comments public. I listened to the text of his comments, and at no time to he apologize for his opinion being incorrect.
He stated simply that he should have kept them personal.
What we know is that Phil treasures his endorsement income, that he is privately a bit conservative, and that he has a PR agent perhaps who lets him know when it is wise to speak and when to be silent.
IOW, Mikelson will be no conservative leader, but I’m betting he votes republican/conservative.
He is probably aware that speaking out like he did will bring the Obama-run IRS snooping into every corner of his finances.
No one on The Tour is more affected by what the public thinks of him than Phil. This is nothing more than him trying to get a feel for what his fans want him to do...
Not to quibble, Neil, but increasing a 35% tax rate by 4.6% to 39.4% is a 13% tax increase.
Jim “Bones” Mackay begs to differ (that Phil is not a job “creator”).
When a Catholic sins and confesses that sin to his priest, he is often asked to make atonement by repeatedly reciting “Hail Marys and Our Fathers”.
But when anyone says something that meets with the disapproval of leftists, they *demand* from them their equivalent, an empty apology. For them, empty apologies are a form of prayer, and even a sarcastic curse when leveled at a non-believer.
For example, when a Democrat calls Republicans “Nazis”, and becomes an embarrassment because of it, his empty apology will be “I’m sorry that Republicans are Nazis!”
Whether a statement is true or not has no bearing on it being permissible as far as leftists are concerned. Unless it is p.c., it is a confession of sin, as far as they are concerned, and if they cannot coerce a ritual prayer of an empty apology from the “sinner”, from that point on they will curse and damn them.
<< Phil is a great golfer and a nice guy. But a job creator he is not. >>
Really? So when Phil buys a new car, a boat or a second house, he’s NOT creating jobs?
that’s one way of looking at it.
another is, he does hire people.
Caddy\accountants(not too smart accounts, it seems)\lawyers\agents\pilots\people to work his foundations & charities\etc....who in turn, hire people...
But I guess that don’t count.
“What we know is that Phil treasures his endorsement income, that he is privately a bit conservative, and that he has a PR agent perhaps who lets him know when it is wise to speak and when to be silent.”
You are correct. Moving off of plain vanilla is going to alienate someone, some people, so hurts his value as a celebrity endorser. So not only does California screw him on income taxes, he loses endorsement income too
Romney is 0-calorie, no-fat, no-sugar, artificial vanilla-flavored, non-dairy, gluten-free, whipped school-lunch dessert product. Tell me again how this blandissimo geek in the weird underwear got to be my candidate for President.
IMNSVHO, Mickelson's advisors were wrong to have him apologize. Like-minded tough-guy FUO golfers would flock to by his endorsed products.
My guess is that Mikelson will quietly move out of California in a year or so. Florida would be the most likely spot, with Texas in the running.
When Phil buys a car, he has taken money out of pockets of sports fans and then spent it. That money was actually earned by hard work IN A USEFUL ACTIVITY by the sports fan. He/she could have spent the money directly instead of giving it to Phil and the economy would benefit just as much.
Economy can prosper only if genuine wealth is created. There are 4 predominant wealth creators:
2. Mining includes oil
4. Inventions & Research
Without that wealth creation, actors, lawyers, golfers, singers, retail, government workers, tax accountants etc would have no paying customers.
Please read my post #26. You will then see where I am going with this.
Sorry- I cannot agree with you about ‘sports entertainers’.
They provide thousands of jobs you never hear about. Even the company that welds together all the structures for lights, etc, at any entertainment event is creating jobs. The CD’s—the T-shirts—hats—golf clubs—lots of things, all equal jobs in places you have never seen; small buildings in light industrial parts of your region....who provide JOBS and TAXES.
The contractors who build the stadiums....the food and souvenir vendors—the hotels and motels who operate with full houses when the local team is in town and playing. The airlines—the rental cars—bulk transportation busses with a full load of passengers who attend an event.
Many of those ‘brick and mortar’ stores are providing hundreds of items which are directly connected to various sports entertainers.
Phil and his other golfers put millions every year into very solid charities. The duffer who cannot break 100 on his own golf course near his home is willing to pay money to watch the talents of Phil and others. I have NEVER played a round of golf in my entire life of 73 years, but I am delighted to watch people who are talented at what they do on my TV.
Do all the purchases by those local duffers not count??? That local golf course brings in city income, sells gear, provides jobs for caddys—(often an early employment for many teens)-—buys lawn equipment, and often has a bar or restaurant connected to the golf course.
Are you saying that such a golf course bar & restaurant is less valuable to the region than a Burger King or a Bully’s???
I have a long history background with racing. The millions of dollars which are spent by the teams as they go from event to event to compete is huge. Do you ralize that Rick Hendrick’s NASCAR team has over 650 EMPLOYEES?????
Do you have any idea how much that contributes to the economy of this country??? Paychecks—Meals—Motels—fuel for transporters from event to event—airline tickets—Uniforms-(from 100 degree weather clothes to 10 degree clothes)—parts for the cars—purchase of trailers & semi trucks for transporting—rental cars at an event—It is a very large budget.
IF YOU don’t like sports-—so be it. Your loss, IMO. But you have absolutely NO GRASP of what sports brings to the USA economy.
I am afraid you do not fathom the difference between wealth creators and wealth spenders.
Please read my post #26.
By the way I am an ardent sports fan, and spend tons of money on buying the best golf equipment money can buy. I also buy new American brand cars every 3 years. That does NOT make me a job creator. I am just distributing the money created by my wealth creating employer who manufactured very valuable products...A GENUINE WEALTH & JOB CREATOR.
Again please read my post#26. Thank you for your thoughtful response above.
I do not understand why or to whom he apologized? who was “hurt” by his comment?
Number 5 on your list should be “USA should ditch retarded free trade policies”
Raymond Cruz played Tuco Salamanca so so so over the top. Same actor played Ding Chavez in “Clear and Present Danger” w Harrison Ford which was a great film for its time 1994
Rush Limabugh said the same thing today. That Phil Mickelson’s agents told him to dial it back for the sake of endorsements
You sound envious...
And have not thought it thru....
Hell I'm pissed and say it everyday!!
What I find sickening...is he chose to apologize. Pussy!!
Did you ever think that all the above...have not hired people to WORK for them if they are successful?????
You missed my entire point. Take away the 4 pillars of wealth creation (the “real” job creators) and then actors, lawyers, golfers, singers, retail, government workers, tax accountants will out on the streets faster than a Jimmy John’s sandwich delivery.
Oh puleez...I have followed Mickelson on more tournament rounds than perhaps any one on this board. Every time there was a PGA tournament with 50 miles of Downer’s Grove, IL, I was there. Also great fan of Tiger & Steve Stricker both of whom absolutely mauled my favorite course in Chicagoland, the Dubsdread aka Cog Hill #4 where on my best day I shot 89 and these guys shoot low to mid 60’s. It is a magnificent public course, expensive, well maintained, scenic, and great variety of holes and tough!
The discussion is not about Phil Mickelson’s decision to quit CA due to high taxes. Who can blame him? He earned his money and should be able to keep no less than half of it at the very least.
My posts here pertain only whether Phil is a job creator. In my belief the only real job creators are the wealth creators. Most others perform a tertiary function. Take away the job creators and the rest will starve in a hurry.
Please refer to post #26 also.
You apparently have money envy...and you think some occupations are "USELESS"....
Free trade? Yes if it is fair and balanced. More trade means more economic activity which means more jobs. But NO to unfair trade.
Wow....how generous of you! Ha!!
“There are 4 predominant wealth creators:
2. Mining includes oil
4. Inventions & Research”
I disagree, the only true wealth creator is labor. Without labor (i.e. those workers spending their money on golf stuff), none of your 4 proffered wealth creators create anything.
That is exactly what the communist manifesto says!
So you do not believe in capitalism?
“So you do not believe in capitalism?”
You think Adam Smith was a communust?
Your inability to address my point and the red herring you threw out in place of discourse tells me all I need to know.