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MILLER: National ‘assault weapon’ ban coming Thursday
The Washington Times ^ | 22 January, 2013 | Emily Miller

Posted on 01/23/2013 4:21:18 AM PST by marktwain

Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s office confirmed that she will be introducing in the Senate Thursday a new version of the so-called assault weapon ban. A spokesman said the full text will be released at a press conference on Thursday.

The California Democrat intends to expand on the ban that expired in 2004, by including handguns and shotguns, in addition to rifles. She would decrease from two to one the number of cosmetic features on a gun to have it be considered an “assault weapon.” This means that if a gun has just one item like a pistol grip or bayonet lug, then it is illegal. Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed into law the same ban in New York last week.

Furthermore, instead of grandfathering in current firearms, she would create a national gun registry for the government to track lawful gun owners. Magazines would again be limited to 10 rounds.

The Clinton-era bill was not renewed by Congress after the Federal Bureau of Investigation and law enforcement agencies reported that it was ineffective in reducing crime.

President Obama said that a top priority is to get “an assault weapons ban that is meaningful” passed this year.

A summary of Mrs. Feinstein’s legislation is below.

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of: 120 specifically-named firearms; certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one or more military characteristics; and semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by: Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test; eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test; and banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; agenda; assault; awb; ban; banglist; feinstein; guncontrol; secondamendment
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1 posted on 01/23/2013 4:21:33 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Hahaha, the senate can propose an “assault weapons” ban, but not a budget as they’re required to do by law.


2 posted on 01/23/2013 4:23:45 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk

You can shove your ban deep into where that California sun doesn`t shine, DiFi. We won`t obey.


3 posted on 01/23/2013 4:30:32 AM PST by ScottinVA (More dizzying than a Tilt-a-Whirl is an around-a-circle argument with a liberal about gun control.)
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To: marktwain

If they pass such a ban, I will, for the first time in my life, purchase an “assault rifle”, before it goes into effect.


4 posted on 01/23/2013 4:32:54 AM PST by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: Paradox

Good luck finding a new one. Not many to be had right now. You should have seen the light about six months ago!


5 posted on 01/23/2013 4:38:52 AM PST by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: marktwain

I’m not personally aware of anybody willing to “register” anything.


6 posted on 01/23/2013 4:41:06 AM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: Paradox

“If they pass such a ban, I will, for the first time in my life, purchase an “assault rifle”, before it goes into effect.”

You can probably find one cheap in a bordertown along the Rio Grande.


7 posted on 01/23/2013 4:41:20 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: andyk
Feinstein would be happier in China.

She should go there.

8 posted on 01/23/2013 4:42:52 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: marktwain

Is a “bullet button” related to “the thing that goes up”??? I thought I was reasonably informed on firearms terminology but those two just escape me. Can somebody please translate?


9 posted on 01/23/2013 4:44:50 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: marktwain

People killed in the last 25 years by:

pistol grips = 0

mounted bayonets = 0

This is like enforcing speeding laws by banning racing stripes.


10 posted on 01/23/2013 4:45:18 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: marktwain

National ‘assault weapon’ ban coming Thursday


Technically, that is not correct. The title should read “DOA assault weapon ban bill will be presented to the senate on Thursday”.


11 posted on 01/23/2013 4:45:36 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Paradox

I saw a used Smith and Wesson M&P AR-15 Sport 223 for sale in a local sporting goods store yesterday. Asking price $2,200. Before all the talk about gun bans, you could pick up a new one for $640.


12 posted on 01/23/2013 4:45:50 AM PST by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: Paradox

Lol. You waited till now? Geez! Good luck finding anything.


13 posted on 01/23/2013 4:47:08 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Paradox

If they pass such a ban, I will, for the first time in my life, purchase an “assault rifle”, before it goes into effect.


It’s why I bought my SKS during the Clinton years along with 500 rounds. I’ve put about 40 rounds through it since then, mainly to familiarize myself with the sights.


14 posted on 01/23/2013 4:47:29 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: marktwain
Dear Senator Feinstein, This is the MINIMUM that a soldier carries in combat.

This rifle fires 3 round bursts AND fires on full automatic. They have been illegal in this country since 1934.

You have ALREADY eroded the 2nd amendment to the point that we can't even possess the "arms" intended in the amendment.

Enough is enough.

15 posted on 01/23/2013 4:47:38 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: marktwain

So, how does this person expect to get it through house. Even with Boehner as Speaker, the ‘Pubbies are not gong to commit this sort of suicide.


16 posted on 01/23/2013 4:48:22 AM PST by Little Ray (Waiting for the return of the Gods of the Copybook Headings.)
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To: Little Ray

I doubt it even gets out of committee in the Senate.


17 posted on 01/23/2013 4:50:58 AM PST by Campion ("Social justice" begins in the womb)
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To: cuban leaf

I don’t see the House approving a ban. The Senate can vote all they want but it takes both branches to pass a bill.


18 posted on 01/23/2013 4:51:24 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: SampleMan

But I thought Obama said that there aren’t any bayonets anymore.


19 posted on 01/23/2013 4:51:31 AM PST by Truth2012
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To: Little Ray

Keep making phone calls and writing them.
I do it three times a week.
Hell, half of the FReeper statements on these kinds of threads are all you’d have to tell them.


20 posted on 01/23/2013 4:54:14 AM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: marktwain
And some where in the printing of the text the “one charateristic” will, accidentally of course, turn into “zero characteristics” making all firearms illegal.
21 posted on 01/23/2013 4:54:23 AM PST by CPOSharky (zero slogan: Expect less, pay more. (apologies to Target))
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To: marktwain
As Biden promised us in Fall 2008, ‘No-no-no, Obama is not coming to take your guns. That's the LAST thing on his mind”

Dont remember O talking about doing this last year.

22 posted on 01/23/2013 4:58:20 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: ImNotLying

Kalashnikovs haven’t gone out of sight nearly as much as ARs. And they are much uglier, too. My AK with all the fixins’ (folder, pistol grip, drum mag, muzzle brake, attached bayonet AND imported) would give DiFi the royal heebie-jeebies. After all, she gave me the idea to buy one when I saw her brandishing it in front of the cameras back in ‘94.


23 posted on 01/23/2013 4:58:32 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: CPOSharky

They will have to pass it to see what’s in it!


24 posted on 01/23/2013 4:58:38 AM PST by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: marktwain

Thankfully I’m getting old enough that I won’t have to go through fights for our liberty much longer. I’m getting tired of people saying “it’s the guns, not the individual”. I can remember prior to 1968 when you could purchase surplus WWII firearms from a firm in Alexandria, VA (Ye Old Hunter’s Lodge or something like that) with no background check and have the item mailed to you. So prior to 1968 we had nothing to protect us, and where was our crime rate? I venture to say it was much better than now. But what happened to make crime increase? Maybe it was the fact that we started by killing our babies, Hollywood glamorized murder, or that poverty and drugs created pockets of high crime areas within our major cities? But no, it’s not that....it’s the guns! So instead of making individuals responsible or attempting to solve the real issues, we blame the inert object. I guess that fits in nicely with the “we’re all special” mentality that’s creating a nation of disappointed and emotionally immature youth that would rather rob their elders than work (with apologies to today’s responsible youth that stand on principle).


25 posted on 01/23/2013 4:58:38 AM PST by Boomer One
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To: marktwain

States can choose not to enforce this. Just like CA refuses to enforce federal Pot laws, right?


26 posted on 01/23/2013 4:59:34 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: muawiyah

Maybe Feinstein just needs to get laid. She is one of the crabbiest politicians I think I’ve ever seen. But I don’t see that happening anytime soon unless you get another species involved.../s


27 posted on 01/23/2013 5:00:10 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Campion
"I doubt it even gets out of committee in the Senate."

The following sentiments were GOSPEL on FR just a few short months ago:

"There is no way SCOTUS will uphold an individual mandate..."

"There is no way Romney loses Ohio..."

"There is no way Obama gets re-elected with Unemployment over 7%..."

I sense a pattern here...

28 posted on 01/23/2013 5:00:18 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: marktwain

Come and get them.


29 posted on 01/23/2013 5:00:50 AM PST by sauropod (I will not comply)
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To: Bryan24
"They have been illegal in this country since 1934."

Nope, not illegal just must have a special license to own one.

30 posted on 01/23/2013 5:03:49 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: andyk
"...the senate can propose an “assault weapons” ban, but not a budget as they’re required to do by law."

Good Point! Pick up your phones and hammer your congressmen with this. Also call John Boehner, give him your support on this budget mess...if he knows We The People are demanding rules apply to our elected also, he will show strength. DON'T let Obama continue to tear the GOP apart and trample our Constitution.....Fax Boehner a short note or call him today.

Phone: (202) 225-0600
Fax: (202) 225-5117

31 posted on 01/23/2013 5:04:05 AM PST by yoe
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To: ImNotLying

“Fully-accessorized” 5.56/.223/ar57 rifles around here are going anywhere from $2,600-3,500. NUTZ.


32 posted on 01/23/2013 5:05:24 AM PST by carriage_hill (AR-10s/15s are the 21st Century's Muskets. Self-Defense is The First Human Right.)
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To: Bryan24

Registered automatic weapons are legal in most states.


33 posted on 01/23/2013 5:07:38 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Obama administration probably hoping for another shooting diaster soon so he can parade the little children out again and play on the emotions of the citizens.


34 posted on 01/23/2013 5:10:13 AM PST by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: central_va; All

Is anyone here under the illusion that the Senate will not pass this AND the House will follow suit AND the SCOTUS will uphold it AND most states will enforce it? I’m not; we are in different times, as evidenced by the majority crowning a new emperor who thinks he’s a god.

Four years ago, there might have been an almost bloodless separation of states. Today, there is zero chance of that. It will be long; it will be bloody; and it will happen. Better that than living as slaves to the regime.


35 posted on 01/23/2013 5:10:49 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Boomer One

> with apologies to today’s responsible youth that stand on principle

A few weeks ago I went to a class on The Constitution that was hosted by The Tea Party. There were probably 10 teenagers there and one maybe just a little older who knew The Constitution inside and out and had reportedly spoken at some other meetings. He was respectful, humble, and very intelligent and you tell he had a reverence for God. It was very obvious he is opposed to the current administration’s agenda to change and defile The Constiution and that he will enter into politics here in the next few years.

Youth like THAT give me hope. It doesn’t seem like there are many out there like that but I have run into more than I expected lately and it was obvious it was the parent’s influence on their lives that made the difference. So do not despair, there is hope.


36 posted on 01/23/2013 5:13:34 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: marktwain

Impeach and remove or replace by the vote.


37 posted on 01/23/2013 5:15:46 AM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks!)
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To: marktwain
This is not news to most of you....you know how the deck is stacked

....but Friday my husband and I were in Walmart and checked the gun/ammo aisle...

...except for a few stray bullets, the shelves were completely empty.

I asked the employee if they were getting more....

...he said to be there in line the next morning at 7AM.....they would have a new shipment...

..and by the afternoon they would be completely empty again.

38 posted on 01/23/2013 5:16:39 AM PST by Guenevere (....)
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To: ImNotLying

I’m beginning to think they are being staged. I mean, what are the odds? Unless the stupid liberal college kids are trying o assist him on his gun control agenda. Would I have considered it a possibility 5 years ago? No. Today? Yes. It’s obvious the liberals are using the Alinsky playbook and and that the end justifies the means to them. At any cost. Oh what’s a few lives when you need to get a ill passed that will be or the good of all? Yeah, that’s the mentality in the WH we’re currently dealing with.


39 posted on 01/23/2013 5:19:19 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: marktwain

it has to pass the house too, right?

what scares me is the cowards in the RINO party.


40 posted on 01/23/2013 5:19:19 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: ImNotLying

I’m beginning to think they are being staged. I mean, what are the odds? Unless the stupid liberal college kids are trying o assist him on his gun control agenda. Would I have considered it a possibility 5 years ago? No. Today? Yes. It’s obvious the liberals are using the Alinsky playbook and that the end justifies the means to them. At any cost. Oh what’s a few lives when you need to get a bill passed that will be for the good of all? Yeah, that’s the mentality in the WH we’re currently dealing with.


41 posted on 01/23/2013 5:20:05 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: marktwain
This means that if a gun has just one item like a pistol grip or bayonet lug, then it is illegal.

Are these people insane? Pistol grips and bayonet lugs do not kill people. When was the last time one private citizen was bayoneted by another?

42 posted on 01/23/2013 5:21:56 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Soylent Green is Boomers)
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To: marktwain

I think the DC dwellers have forgotten about the ‘consent of the governed’ Thing.


43 posted on 01/23/2013 5:21:56 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Guenevere
...except for a few stray bullets, the shelves were completely empty.


I hear ya. This was last week.
44 posted on 01/23/2013 5:22:08 AM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: isthisnickcool
Impeach and remove or replace by the vote.

the house may impeach...but the senate will NOT convict....this may come down to physical conflict...

MOLON LABE

45 posted on 01/23/2013 5:22:24 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: ImNotLying

I think it was stag arms that said they are up to a two year backlog in orders now. Heck, I literally bought my rock river AR a few days before conn. Fired leas than two hundred rounds through it in just one visit to the range to sight it in. I could probably sell it for triple what i paid for it. But i won’t, its too damn much fun to shoot, and it pixxes off liberals that i have one.


46 posted on 01/23/2013 5:23:34 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: marktwain
she would create a national gun registry for the government to track lawful gun owners

Senator Feinstein, with all due respect (which is NONE for you, beyotch) - Canada already spent $2 billion to do this in a country with 10% of the USA's population, and finally gave up.

Are you really stupid enough to think that you're going to succeed with a government boondoggle of that magnitude when it's already been proven that it can't be done? Especially in a country with the gun culture and history of resistance to gun laws that we have in the US? What an incredible waste of the Senate's and the American people's time.

She can propose a completely unworkable law that likely won't even make it out of committee, but they can't pass a #$%## budget? It's time for a new Tea Party, again.

47 posted on 01/23/2013 5:27:06 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: marktwain

I propose that Swineslime release all of her armed security protection and walk the streets alone like the rest of us.


48 posted on 01/23/2013 5:31:06 AM PST by crosshairs (All we are saying, is give a high cap piece a chance.)
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To: jsanders2001
I’m beginning to think they are being staged...

I suspect they are being choreographed. These things happen, and can be shaped by a choreographic media and the regime-types that pull their strings.

49 posted on 01/23/2013 5:31:51 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: ImNotLying

Oh, they’re out there but you gotta bring your wallet.


50 posted on 01/23/2013 5:35:22 AM PST by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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