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TX:Family uses firearm to stop attempted home invasion
woai.com ^ | 20 January, 2013 | NA

Posted on 01/23/2013 6:57:43 AM PST by marktwain

SAN ANTONIO - A scary situation for a family on the Northeast Side.

Just before 10 am Sunday morning Bexar County Sheriff's Deputies say someone tried to kick-in the front door at a home on Sunlit Trail. We're told the mom called 911 and the son fired one shot through the door.

The suspect then took off after firing his gun.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; defense; guncontrol; home; secondamendment; tx
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1 posted on 01/23/2013 6:57:55 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
The NRA needs to make a commercial comparing the number of people saved using firearms verses the number murdered.

Further, they need to make a commercial about WHERE, WHY and WHO are mostly murdered, that being urban black and Hispanic gang violence.

2 posted on 01/23/2013 7:37:36 AM PST by ryan71
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To: marktwain
We're told the mom called 911 and the son fired one shot through the door.

Home defense -- Great for adults and kids!!! (Yes my kids got guns)

3 posted on 01/23/2013 7:55:07 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: marktwain

From public enemy #1 (obozo) on down, every anti-2nd Amendment politician needs to feel first hand the fear of being defenseless in the face of criminal human debris.

If only we could go back in time and put them on flight 93 to experience what government disarmament of citizens caused maybe they would appreciate the ability to defend oneself from criminals, mudslimes, JBTs at every government level.

Had the passengers on flight 93 not be disarmed by their own government and rendered almost helpless, a better outcome might have occurred on 9/11.


4 posted on 01/23/2013 7:58:05 AM PST by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam!)
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To: marktwain
Not to be the least bit demeaning or offensive to the brave son involved, but:

Next time

1. Assume shooting position providing you with maximum cover and support. Preferably with light behind you.

2. Allow assailant to kick door open and take one step inside.

3. Aim for center of mass and fire weapon repeatedly.

4. After assailant is down, remain in covered position until police arrive.

5. Should assailant get up or in any means become threatening, repeat step 3 as required.

(For future reference in Texas - always make the assailant break something to enter and take one full step inside.)

5 posted on 01/23/2013 8:05:32 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name
#3, #4, and #5 sound good but there is no need for anyone in Texas to wait for someone to step foot inside anywhere.

Texas law says a person is justified in using deadly force if they reasonably believe that this is necessary and the only way to prevent a serious crime such as burglary or theft or to prevent someone from fleeing with stolen property from your home or property. Texas law (http://tlo2.tlc.state.tx.us/statutes/pe.toc.htm) goes even further by adding the justifiable use of deadly force to protect someone else's property if a person "reasonably believes the unlawful interference constitutes attempted or consummated theft of or criminal mischief to the tangible, movable property." Remember Joe Horn in Pasadena? They were only in his yard.

6 posted on 01/23/2013 8:40:47 AM PST by 1riot1ranger (OMG!!! ObamaMustGo!)
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To: ExCTCitizen

Seconds after the police, who are there “to protect and serve,” were notified of a potential mass murder, the dirtbag was able to get off a shot, in the total absence of any responding state force.

For the moron Ed Schultz: Another mass murder prevented by a civilian with a gun.

For the State force: Way to go, once again. When seconds count, you’re minutes away, at the very best.


7 posted on 01/23/2013 8:51:37 AM PST by DPMD
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To: 1riot1ranger
Everything you say there is absolutely correct - however - in the real world:

There have been numerous incidents where a homeowner complied with your requirements, yet was still raked over the coals, sometimes even charged. They all had happy endings, but still at lots of emotional and financial expense.

We had a fellow shoot a teenager that was in his house in the early hours of the morning, obviously after the guy's teenage daughter. The family of the “poor innocent teenager” spun some nonsensical yarn about him going out for a walk at 3 in the morning and innocently walking into the wrong house, etc.

The homeowner was finally cleared, but why was he put through all this carp? Somebody had left a sliding door on the patio unlocked and the would be assailant didn't break anything to enter.

Yes there is the written letter of the law - but here is what is unwritten: make them break something (anything) to get into your house - string will do. After having broken something, make them take one step inside. Fire at will, you are now completely in the clear.

8 posted on 01/23/2013 8:55:04 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name
There have been numerous incidents where a homeowner complied with your requirements, yet was still raked over the coals, sometimes even charged. They all had happy endings, but still at lots of emotional and financial expense.

If you believe that process would be different, if only the assailant was allowed to first break down the door and step inside, I believe you are mistaken.

9 posted on 01/23/2013 10:49:11 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

I am ONLY speaking about Texas. And I would encourage you to try to find even ONE instance where it didn’t happen exactly as I said.

The nearest to that rule being broken is when the person breaking in is an ex boyfriend or husband. But even there, and we probably have four or five shootings a decade like that in San Antonio alone, in every instance the shooter has gone completely free. The only ones where it has gotten messy was when the woman didn’t change locks and the ex used a key to get in. Then questions arise.


10 posted on 01/23/2013 11:40:24 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: I cannot think of a name

If someone is outside my door and I fear for the safety of my family and myself, I will take my chances in the legal system, than wait until the risk is greater and the threat more imminent. I can afford a miss/jamb/etc while the threat is still outside. Not so much after he knew I was there and still broke down the door.

Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.


11 posted on 01/23/2013 12:33:19 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

All true statements. But I can also tell you the story of a friend of mine who shot and killed a guy in one of the out buildings on his farm. He had to go through a grand jury (eventually no-billed) and all the other associated BS. And as the local sheriff told him, “if you’d killed him in your house instead of an out building, we wouldn’t even be talking.”

And as far as “Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6” - that was the rule under which I carried before we got CCWP.


12 posted on 01/23/2013 12:45:23 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: thackney

In North Carolina you can fire if someone is attempting to break into your home or vehicle while you are there and you believe they intend you harm.


13 posted on 01/23/2013 12:49:15 PM PST by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: marktwain

I like how the enemedia gives 20-30 words about these incidents, yet floods their reports with a dozen paragraphs about criminals illegally using firearms.


14 posted on 01/23/2013 12:55:43 PM PST by RandallFlagg
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To: I cannot think of a name

When I was a child in Ohio, Dad held an attempted burglar outside with his rifle until the local police came to pick him up.

The small town police chief told him that if he ever needed to shoot someone in that situation to drag him in the house and back out. I wouldn’t give that advise today...


15 posted on 01/23/2013 1:12:25 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: gitmo

In Texas you can use deadly force to protect property.


16 posted on 01/23/2013 1:13:24 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: gitmo; All
Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.9.htm

I don't mean to suggest you won't be taken in by the police immediately after it happens, but it can be legally justified, but not in all circumstances.

17 posted on 01/23/2013 1:18:12 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: gitmo

“In North Carolina you can fire if someone is attempting to break into your home or vehicle while you are there and you believe they intend you harm.”

You guys have too many elected Democrats. In Texas, not only can you blast someone for looking into your car window (on your property), they can’t even sue you for it.

We don’t mess around with our laws.


18 posted on 01/23/2013 4:42:36 PM PST by BobL
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