‘Universal Background Checks’ – Absolutely Not

Ammoland ^ | Jan 23, 2013 | Marion P. Hammer

[EXCH54FE]

-(Ammoland.com)- Imagine a grandfather who wants to give a family shotgun to his 12-year-old grandson having to do a background check on his grandson before giving him the shotgun.

Or a friend having to do a background check on his lifetime best buddy before lending him a hunting rifle.

Or, if your mother had a prowler at her home, having to do a background check on your own Mom before you could give her one of your guns for protection.

That’s what “universal background checks” do. They turn traditional innocent conduct into a criminal offense. They target you, law-abiding gun owners.

Universal background checks are background checks on EVERY transfer, sale, purchase, trade, gift, rental, and loan of a firearm between any and all individuals.

All background checks must be conducted through a federally licensed dealer. (costing hard earned cash) Universal background checks have nothing to do with gun shows – they are about you.

Read more at Ammoland.com: http://www.ammoland.com/2013/01/universal-background-checks-absolutely-not/#ixzz2IompYikF

[CottShop]

imagien a president or governor who said “I’m not takign away your right to free speech, however, you’re no lognwer allowed to say such and such (add whaTEVER words you wish) unless you pass a background check, AND unless you pass a mental health evaluation- Do You Suppose there woudl be ANY question abotu hte legality or constitutinality of that? Of course not- yet that’s EXACTLY what these gove3rnors and pres are doing with the second amendment

[G Larry]

BUT, it would ensure that drug kingpins would have to do background checks before arming their street dealers....

[G Larry]

Gang Bangers would have to do background checks prior to arming new recruits...

[grobdriver]

Relevant proposed legislation - House Bills:
HR 21: NRA Members' Gun Safety Act of 2013. Referred to the Judicary committee.
HR 34: Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2013. Referred to the Judicary committee.
HR 117: Handgun Licensing and Registration Act of 2013. Referred to the Judicary committee.
HR 137: Fix Gun Checks Act of 2013. Referred to the Judicary committee.
HR 141: Gun Show Loophole Closing Act of 2013. Referred to the Judicary committee.
HR 238: Fire Sale Loophole Closing Act. Referred to the Judicary committee.

Senate Bills have no text available yet:
S22: A bill to establish background check procedures for gun shows.
S33: A bill to prohibit the transfer or possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices, and for other purposes.
S34: A bill to increase public safety by permitting the Attorney General to deny the transfer of firearms or the issuance of firearms and explosives licenses to known or suspected dangerous terrorists.
S35: A bill to require face to face purchases of ammunition, to require licensing of ammunition dealers, and to require reporting regarding bulk purchases of ammunition.
S54: A bill to increase public safety by punishing and deterring firearms trafficking. ("trafficking = "private sales")

[Robert357]

Background checks is not about solving a real problem, it is another symbolic act that allows politicians to say they are doing something, when in fact no significant change will result. It is a way to put some words on paper that will not work, but allow politicians to go on with the business of gridlock.

The Dept. of Justice did a survey of where criminals get their firearms and guess what it found? Less than 2% of the firearms that criminals got were from gun shows and flea markets.

Street/illegal source 39.2 40.8
Friends or family 39.6 33.8
Gun show 0.7 0.6
Flea market 1.0 1.3
Pawnshop 3.8 4.2
Retail store 8.3 14.7
Purchased from – 13.9 20.8
Total 100.0% 100.0%
Source of gun 1997 1991

It is already illegal for someone to give or sell a firearm to a felon. The real source of firearms for criminals is family, fellow gang members and illegal street sources. Those sources are not going to go with the felon down to the local gun story to get a firearm transferred as they know they will go to jail, so they will ignore this nice potentially new law and provide the felon with the firearm he wants.

Much ado about nothing.

http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/pub/pdf/fuo.pdf

[VRW Conspirator]

And what if the background check showed that the person was an illegal alien?

[I want the USA back]

The ruling class plans to take away guns while saying that they aren’t.

[HiJinx]

And what if the background check showed that the person was an illegal alien?

Put him up for election!!!

[tet68]

What comes after this? Background checks to buy a car?
Background checks to buy sissors, knives, razor blades?
I’m sorry maam, your chocolate check has come back
negative. (that could be hazardous to your health)

I’m sorry sir, here at Barnes and Noble we cannot sell
conservative literature without a mental health check...
Have you read Das Kapital? No need for a check for that.

[Eva]

Oh, they don’t just want background checks, they want fingerprints.

I’ve been advocating that in states like WA, where they give drivers’ licenses to illegals that finger prints should be provided in lieu of a legal birth certificate and the left is horrified, but they want to finger print gun owners.

[TexasTransplant]

Google and Facebook would both be envious of that database, coupled with the medical database

There is a Movie script here somewhere

TT

[virgil]

They could demand background checks on all US citizens, so the federal govt would know everybody ‘s history and have it in a big database. Not just gun owners. That’s their end game, spying on us.

[Chainmail]

Universal background checks are just smokescreen for government licensing of all gun possession. Once they have it in place, they will begin restricting the process until it’s all over for the 2nd amendment.

[Chainmail]

Universal background checks are just smokescreen for government licensing of all gun possession. Once they have it in place, they will begin restricting the process until it’s all over for the 2nd amendment.

[HammerT]

Where do the Oppressive Gun grabbers think they have the Authority to control everyone’s persona l property?

If the petty tyrants can asset control over the people in these instances, what else can they control?

Extend this to a ‘Background’ (health) check before you can buy a cheeseburger.

Maybe a ‘Background’ check before you buy certain books or magazines (high crap capacity or not).

Where would it end?

[Adder]

I believe such a requirement would be met with a not so cheery “Know thyself”...in the biblical sense.

How in the world are they ever going to even know about such scenarios unless you are feckless enough to offer them? While it may be technically correct, I certainly would not even think about a backround check on my grandson. Why the heck would anyone do that?

[Liberty Valance]

"There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. When there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws."
~ Ayn Rand ~

[JimRed]

That’s what “universal background checks” do. They turn traditional innocent conduct into a criminal offense. They target you, law-abiding gun owners.

“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” - Ayn Rand

[JimRed]

Great minds...