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Please Take Away My Right to a Gun
The New York Times ^ | Jan 18, 2013 | Wendy Button

Posted on 01/23/2013 9:16:24 AM PST by heartwood

A FEW years ago, I awoke at 2:30 a.m. to more than a “rapping, rapping at my chamber door.” It was a full-force pounding of a body trying to break into my little house in Washington, D.C. It was the sound and scenario that, as a single woman living alone, I feared more than spiders in the house.

....I considered buying a gun. The threat of violence rattles you like that. What rolled round my head after that dark morning was: what if I hadn’t heard the noise, what if it’s different next time? While I held that chair with all of my strength, I wished that I had had a gun because if he had gotten in, then I could have pointed it at him, maybe deterred him and if necessary pulled the trigger....

...

[Then] I remembered who I am.

I am one of the millions of people in this country who live with depression. I knew that in the gun registration form there would be a version of this question: Have you ever voluntarily or involuntarily been committed to a hospital? The answer is yes — voluntarily. But because my hospitalization was years earlier and I wasn’t in treatment at the time, I could have gotten a gun.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: democrats; guncontrol; mentalillness; secondamendment
At least 50 million households in the US have at least one firearm. There are around 9000 firearms homicides per year. There are around 19000 firearms suicide per year. There are fewer than 1000 accidental deaths from firearms per year.

There are approximately 4 million homosexual men in the country. 75% of new HIV infections are transmitted by men having sex with men. There are around 50,000 people newly infected by HIV every year. Around 17,000 people die of AIDS every year.

The NYT will never publish an opinion piece by a man saying "Please take away my right to have sex with other men."

1 posted on 01/23/2013 9:16:28 AM PST by heartwood
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To: heartwood

They are this intellectually bankrupt on the left, and the Republicans as an institution are beaten by them on a regular basis.

This is a scam. The GOP is not trying to win. Quislings.


2 posted on 01/23/2013 9:20:09 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Capitol to the districts: "May the odds be ever in your favor.")
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To: heartwood

I’m an alcoholic. For me, to pick up another drink is to die. I also suffer from depression, a drink sounds real good sometimes. Please, Mr. President, bring back Prohibition. NOT!!!


3 posted on 01/23/2013 9:23:26 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: heartwood

to the point of the article, my dad was bipolar, but owned several firearms and carried a firearm whenever his work called him into late hours or sketchy places.

As far as I know, he never drew his firearm on anyone but recalled instances where it was good to know it was in reach.

The thousands of soldiers and police officers that suffer from even an indication of PTSD will be relieved of their rights if Obama gets his way.

The mental health clause will also trip a switch when a person admits to attending AA or NA or even marriage counseling.

That direct point must be made.


4 posted on 01/23/2013 9:23:37 AM PST by hkusp40
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To: heartwood

She better hope that they ban rope, tall buildings and sedatives.


5 posted on 01/23/2013 9:26:41 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: heartwood
When I read an article like that, I sometimes wonder if the person is real, or some fictitious persona created to promote the leftist agenda.

Having been born and raised with firearms, and living through three, (that come to mind quickly) incidents in which firearms saved lives, both perps and victoms. I just can't go with the storyline.

6 posted on 01/23/2013 9:28:05 AM PST by exnavy (Fish or cut bait ...Got ammo, Godspeed!)
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To: heartwood
"Now, about these inalienable rights ... let's see if you qualify. I have a questionnaire here with a dozen or so topic areas. If you answer correctly in all areas, you can have your inalienable rights. However, I must tell you that a wrong answer will cause me to remove your inalienable rights. Ready?"
7 posted on 01/23/2013 9:30:56 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Nothing will change until after the war.)
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To: heartwood

Democrats should not be allowed to own guns. They are not mentally stable.

Satire.

Kind of.


8 posted on 01/23/2013 9:32:26 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: heartwood

Democrats should not be allowed to own guns. They are not mentally stable.

Satire.

Kind of.


9 posted on 01/23/2013 9:32:50 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: exnavy

What is even more scary is the response letters. NOBODY is ordering you to obtain a firearm. If you know you have these issues, don’t get one. The fact that she freely admits she used to work for john edwards says a lot about her sanity anyway. Gotta love them radical left wing extremists threatening to violate our rights. Best analogy I read was that lots of people eat peanuts. Some people can’t eat peanuts ergo, ban all peanuts. Absurd to say the least. But is the RLWE view of what needs to be done.

Molon labe.


10 posted on 01/23/2013 9:36:49 AM PST by rktman (Live the oath you took or get out of office!)
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To: heartwood
I have never in my life used the word "libtard." But anyone who could write this infantile drivel deserves the epithet.

Wendy dear, grow up. Don't ask Big Brother to protect you from yourself ... and in the process take away my God-given right to life and right to defend myself, in the event I am ever declared "depressed" (and under Obama, we are ALL in a temporary state of depression).

11 posted on 01/23/2013 9:37:09 AM PST by shhrubbery! (NIH!)
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To: Huskrrrr

I can’t swim. Ban pools.
I can’t fly, ban airplanes.
I can’t eat peanuts, ban restaurants.
I can’t take some medicines, ban pharmacies.

Parilitas supremus. Salus primoris.


12 posted on 01/23/2013 9:38:43 AM PST by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: heartwood
I wished that I had had a gun because if he had gotten in, then I could have pointed it at him, maybe deterred him and if necessary pulled the trigger....

I wish and hope that next time he does get in and that she doesn't have a gun. With any luck, he'll take away her right to speak, her right to breath, her right to be a dumb c***. Stupid b****.

13 posted on 01/23/2013 9:38:43 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: heartwood

Having been a prosecutor/criminal defense attorney for many years, I have on occasion been called to act in murder cases. Nine of them, in fact. Of the nine cases, only two were known to be be committed by guns (and one we’re not sure about since the victim’s body was never found).

Most were committed by knives. I think they should ban knives.

One was committed by a demolition tool. They should ban demolition tools.


14 posted on 01/23/2013 9:40:18 AM PST by henkster ("The people who count the votes decide everything." -Joseph Stalin)
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To: heartwood

This is f*cking joke, right?
Seriously?
Please prevent me from killing someone to save my own life?
I’m a depressed idiot and I feel that the laws for everyone else should be based on my level of competence?
Jeez.


15 posted on 01/23/2013 9:44:41 AM PST by servo1969
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To: heartwood

She already has the ability to have her second amendment rights taken away. Just don’t buy a gun. But that’s never good enough for the left. They have to make sure everyone else’s second amendment rights are taken away.


16 posted on 01/23/2013 9:44:51 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: heartwood
I don't like what the NY times says about Guns, ban the NYT before they
depress more people and cause even more suicides.
17 posted on 01/23/2013 9:45:42 AM PST by MaxMax (Gun free zones was the invitation to gun bans by the left, at any cost)
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To: heartwood

I can see where this is going...having a gun or even desiring to have one will be declared a mental illness giving the government the right to take guns away to protect society.


18 posted on 01/23/2013 9:45:57 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: heartwood

I’m waiting on “The Population Growth is Unsustainable Please Euthanize Me for Mother Earth” article.


19 posted on 01/23/2013 9:47:41 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: outofsalt
I can’t eat peanuts, ban restaurants.

Ban elephants
20 posted on 01/23/2013 9:47:41 AM PST by Foolsgold (L I B Lacking in Brains)
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To: heartwood
I can't be trusted not to poke myself in the eye.

Please take away my right to fingers.

Oh, and it's only fair to chop off the fingers of everybody else in the country, too.

21 posted on 01/23/2013 9:47:41 AM PST by fattigermaster
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To: hkusp40
So, these people with depression (read the comments in the article) seem to be saying that they were smart enough to recognize that they had no business having a firearm. Sounds like pretty good self-policing to me.

The article itself makes reference to the 19,000+ people who took their own lives with firearms last year. Okay, let's see how many people took their own lives by other means.

Hmmm... look at that! there were also over 19,000 people who died by other means - 6,600 by poisoning, 9,500 by suffocation, 2,900 by other means.

So, please, don't try to claim that restricting guns will save all sorts of lives of depressed people. It won't.

A truly suicidal person almost always has a plan in mind for how they intend to take their life. If someone talks about killing themselves, one of the first things that health care professionals ask them is (and you should too, if a loved one starts talking like that), “Do you have a plan?”

If they do, then the method they have chosen is secondary. (I know, I know - some suicidals say they would choose a firearm over some other method ‘because it is more certain to ‘get the job done quickly’ than other methods.’ If they don't have access to a firearm, then a truly suicidal person will find a way to accomplish their life-ending desire.

If they don't have a plan, then they are most often (at least at that point in time) not really suicidal. (And, yes I DO know what I'm talking about from personal and professional experience.)

So, once again, we have yet another group of people who are clamoring to restrict our right to defend ourselves ‘for the (children, depressed, mentally unbalanced, ...)’ when, in fact, it isn't the gun (or knife or car or bottle of booze or ...) that is the root cause of violence, depression, suicide, etc.

So, let's not pretend that it is.

22 posted on 01/23/2013 9:49:51 AM PST by Quality_Not_Quantity (Liars use facts when the truth doesn't suit their purposes.)
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To: heartwood

It is all about personal responsibility. If you are not responsible enough to own a gun, then don’t own one. But why force your decision onto everyone else? Maybe you are an irresponsible driver - should car ownership be illegal? Grow up, Wendy, time to act like an adult.


23 posted on 01/23/2013 9:53:45 AM PST by zagger
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To: heartwood
I am one of the millions of people in this country who live with depression.


24 posted on 01/23/2013 10:00:20 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: heartwood

IMHO, she should be begging for her Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the press to be taken away, so she won’t be able to write anything this idiotic in the future.


25 posted on 01/23/2013 10:00:20 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: heartwood
Wendy Button

Hey Wendy baby. I've got a handful of pills for you left over from some surgery. If you promise to wash 'em all down with some booze, I guarantee you won't be depressed again, and the rest of us will be spared your moronic twaddle in the future. Come on, you know you want to do it.

26 posted on 01/23/2013 10:00:30 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: heartwood

Conservative logic: I don’t trust myself to handle a gun responsibly, therefore I won’t own one.

Liberal “logic”: I don’t trust myself to handle a gun responsibly, therefore NOBODY should own one.


27 posted on 01/23/2013 10:00:36 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers ("I'm not anti-anything, I just wanna be free." - Mike Muir)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

“Democrats should not be allowed to own guns. They are not mentally stable.

That was exactly my take on this.


28 posted on 01/23/2013 10:01:51 AM PST by jjones9853
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To: heartwood

If you can’t be trusted to own and carry a weapon, you shouldn’t be running around loose. Be a good little progressive and turn yourself in.

(The author, not you, Heartwood)


29 posted on 01/23/2013 10:04:23 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: heartwood

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30 posted on 01/23/2013 10:10:34 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: heartwood
Wendy Button is a former political speechwriter.

Time to play, "Guess The Party."

31 posted on 01/23/2013 10:10:54 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: fattigermaster

>> Please take away my right to fingers.... Oh, and it’s only fair to chop off the fingers of everybody else in the country, too.

Oh yeah? Well you can have MY fingers when you pry them one by one, cold and lifeless, from around the grip of my handgun. :-)


32 posted on 01/23/2013 10:11:11 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: heartwood
The NYT will never publish an opinion piece by a man saying "Please take away my right to have sex with other men."

You're right. But the New York Times is the best of the propaganda pushers. When they go under or get bought out their people can get jobs writing press releases for Obama ...

33 posted on 01/23/2013 10:14:56 AM PST by GOPJ ( Do murder laws control murders?... freeper Red Badger)
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To: Huskrrrr

Liberalism IS a mental disorder. We haven’t had much success in outlawing mental disorders so how about just outlawing liberals?


34 posted on 01/23/2013 10:17:22 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: heartwood

So many heads of household can now take comfort that Wendy Button is safe from herself as the home invasion crew rapes, sodomizes and murders their children.


35 posted on 01/23/2013 10:21:52 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: heartwood

All I needed to read was the headline.

No you little weasel, make the choice yourself. Be disarmed or armed as you desire. Take responsibility for yourself.

I will do the same.


36 posted on 01/23/2013 10:26:57 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn....)
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To: Psalm 144
The GOP is not trying to win. Quislings.

Quislings is the word. The GOP is the Official Opposition susidiary of the Democrat Party. That includes most of the Tea Party Cngressmen who weemingly wimp out right along with the Boehnerites and give us unlimited warrantless detention and the presidential right tokill any American anywhere any time.

37 posted on 01/23/2013 10:36:30 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: hkusp40

The requirement for doctors to report suspicions of possible mental illness sets up a liability trap for doctors if someone goes on a shooting spree and his doctor has not reported him for mental aberrations. Doctors will pull hat trigger far too easily, those that are still practicing after next january 1. It takes a special kind of craven toady or masochist to continue in practice after the full weight of Obamacare kicks in.


38 posted on 01/23/2013 10:42:03 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: heartwood

If done right, I’m all for people voluntarily rescinding their 2nd Ammendment rights. Folks should be allowed to voluntarily put themselves on a “no buy” list. Their names and addresses should be published to ensure that, in a time of weakness, everyone knows it is illegal for them to buy.

We could call it “Darwin’s List.”


39 posted on 01/23/2013 10:46:54 AM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: martin_fierro; All

We need to demand that loss of voting rights be tied to any loss of gun ownership rights.

And the gun control debate is over in 5-4-3-2...


40 posted on 01/23/2013 10:58:23 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: martin_fierro

Per her bio at huffy posty (and see some of her blogs listed at the link below)
“Wendy Button has written for Democratic Senators John
Edwards, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John Kerry, and for Boston Mayor Thomas Menino. She received her MFA in writing from Bennington College. .”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wendy-button/

She also testified at Edwards’ corruption trial about the press release he wanted written concerning his mistress & child, per other google searches.


41 posted on 01/23/2013 11:00:52 AM PST by JoyjoyfromNJ (everything written by me on FR is my personal opinion & does not represent my employer)
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To: zagger

Your point about car ownership and use is especially well taken. There are times I’ve been so tired while driving that I’ve pulled off the road in a safe place and done some emergency sleeping. Whenever I do that, I’m careful to remove the keys from the ignition just so I don’t accidentially start the car before I’m fully awake and get into an accident. That accident wouldn’t be the car’s fault; it would be mine for driving when I shouldn’t. If somebody has depression and fears what he or she might do at the bottom of the blues, then the adult thing to do is look at the balance of risks, and not keep a gun if the balance is in favor of the depression being more of a risk than a potential home invader. Sad to say, but all of life is choices and balances of risks. Those choices are individiuals’ to make, not for the govenment to make for them.


42 posted on 01/23/2013 11:02:37 AM PST by libstripper
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ
Wendy Button has written for Democratic Senators John Edwards, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John Kerry, and for Boston Mayor Thomas Menino. She received her MFA in writing from Bennington College. .”

I smell a work of fiction. Wouldn't be the first time the old grey whore published lies as news (or even the thousandth time)

43 posted on 01/23/2013 11:12:49 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: heartwood
I knew that in the gun registration form there would be a version of this question: Have you ever voluntarily or involuntarily been committed to a hospital?

How does Ms. Button KNOW this? Has she bothered to download and read an LTC application?

No such question exists on the MA application. Though, there is this:

Have you ever been confined to any hospital or institution for mental illness?

Now, she says she voluntarily entered a hospital for depression. Not the same thing as she was free to leave which suggests she was not confined. Plus, I do not think depression is classified as a mental illness. (Though Liberalism should be.)

So, she is wrong. No such question as yet exists on an application. She didn't bother to check before writing yet ANOTHER hit piece on gun owners.

44 posted on 01/23/2013 12:11:24 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Humans have eliminated natural selection. Morons are now a protected species. They breed and vote.)
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To: heartwood
As I read this I pondered... who on earth could read something like this and not laugh at the audacity of someone who would write something so outlandish and expect it to be taken seriously. I mean, I thought it was something form The Onion or Scrappleface.

then I read some of the comments... Liberalism is without doubt a disease.

45 posted on 01/23/2013 1:12:25 PM PST by FunkyZero (... I've got a Grand Piano to prop up my mortal remains)
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To: LibWhacker

She might be willing to make herself into a pathetic and weak victim but I refuse to go down like a sheep. I would not be able to live with myself if my family was left at the mercy of violent scum because I didn’t have the means to protect them. I can’t even imagine what that Cheshire CT doctor had to deal with after listening to his wife and daughters getting raped and then burned alive. There can’t be anything worse then what he lived through.


46 posted on 01/23/2013 2:24:13 PM PST by peeps36 (America is being destroyed by filthy traitors in the political establishment)
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