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Report: Military Establishing Active Duty Firearms Database
The Truth About Guns ^ | 01/22/2013 | Daniel Silverman

Posted on 01/23/2013 11:05:21 AM PST by nascarnation

Well that didn’t take long. The Commander in Chief’s gun controlling zeal has evidently already reached into the military ranks. According to a report received from the wife of an active duty lieutenant (not pictured above) who is stationed in Indiana, the Army intends to register the firearms owned not only by servicemen and -women, but by their spouses and children as well . . .

To protect the careers of those involved, no names or base locations can be used here. Suffice it to say, though, that a gun rights organization with which I’m associated received a rather frantic call from an Army spouse after her husband received an email from his Captain. As she relays it, the email asked for a full list of all firearms (including make, model and serial number) owned by her husband and any member of the family.

According to the report, the email went out to all members of the unit, whether or not they live on-base. The lieutenant in question lives with his family off-base.

The implications of such a request are fairly staggering. It would seem to violate the Firearm Owners’ Protection Act’s provision against the creation of a gun registry. Here’s the relevant section of the law:

No such rule or regulation prescribed [by the Attorney General] after the date of the enactment of the Firearms Owners Protection Act may require that records required to be maintained under this chapter or any portion of the contents of such records, be recorded at or transferred to a facility owned, managed, or controlled by the United States or any State or any political subdivision thereof, nor that any system of registration of firearms, firearms owners, or firearms transactions or disposition be established. Nothing in this section expands or restricts the Secretary’s authority to inquire into the disposition of any firearm in the course of a criminal investigation.

Of course, the President may have made the determination that, in his capacity as Commander in Chief, he can order the creation such a registry within the military without the involvement of the Attorney General.

Again, we have not yet seen the email that’s been described to us by the military spouse in question. Yet. But we’d very much like to confirm the validity of this report.

[We have received a copy of a 2011 memo sent to troops at Ford Hood. Click here to view that required troops to register their personally owned firearm (POF). This is the first we've heard of the practice spreading to POW registration off-base.]

That said, a two-year implementation phase sounds about right. Anyway, if you’re an active duty service member and have received such a request order via email through the chain of command, please forward it to guntruth@me.com.

We will, of course, keep your identity in the strictest confidence.


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KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; military; registration; secondamendment; tyranny
Combine a hard left ideologue with the Chicago political mob and you get this. Never let a crisis go to waste.
1 posted on 01/23/2013 11:05:31 AM PST by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

FYI: “2009 Nobel Peace Prize nominee Jim Garrow shockingly claims he was told by a top military veteran that the Obama administration’s “litmus test” for new military leaders is whether or not they will obey an order to fire on U.S. citizens.”


2 posted on 01/23/2013 11:12:54 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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3 posted on 01/23/2013 11:13:07 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: nascarnation

Firearm’s registration has long been a requirement (since I was a kid) if you lived on post or on base, and if you shipped firearms overseas. It’s also required if you use on post facilities like a skeet range or take you guns to the Rod and Gun Club, or if you hunt on post. Soldiers living in the barracks have to keep their privately owned firearms in the arms room.

But, the military has generally been a very firearms friendly place. A conversation with the Commanding General is as likely to be about what shotgun to buy as it is about anything else. Of course, politics could easily change all of that and very quickly. I have never seen a requirement to register off post guns unless you want to bring them on the reservation, and that rule applies to family members as well. Captains sometimes get overzealous and that could certainly be the case here. An inquiry to the IG might be in order.


4 posted on 01/23/2013 11:15:16 AM PST by centurion316
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To: nascarnation

Well this will quickly sway the military into the ‘never disarm or shoot a civilian, even under orders’ camp.


5 posted on 01/23/2013 11:19:13 AM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: nascarnation
A previous democrat administration attempted to know what the military and family were thinking:


6 posted on 01/23/2013 11:22:09 AM PST by OwenKellogg
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To: nascarnation

I hope this is followed through and either found to be as reported OR found not to be applicable to off base family members and or military members who do not bring their personal weapon in base..

either way i hope you keep us informed
thank for this.


7 posted on 01/23/2013 11:31:50 AM PST by RWGinger
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To: nascarnation

1) Deny
2) Lie
3) Refuse to comply


8 posted on 01/23/2013 11:36:06 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: nascarnation

Answer: None of your damned business, sir.


9 posted on 01/23/2013 11:39:42 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: nascarnation

To the article writer:

Get a copy.

Redact the names to protect them.

Original poster:

See if you can get ahold of a copy; ask the holder to be sure to redact the names.

Post it here.

Then we will know if its an overeager commander or what.

Threads have been pulled lately......


10 posted on 01/23/2013 11:40:05 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: OwenKellogg

29 palms survey done under Clinton? I remember hearing about that one.


11 posted on 01/23/2013 11:46:04 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

189th Airlift Wing — Air National Guard unit in Arkansas.


12 posted on 01/23/2013 11:49:38 AM PST by OwenKellogg
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To: nascarnation

If I get an email similar to this I will ignore it.


13 posted on 01/23/2013 11:56:07 AM PST by rfreedom4u (I have a copy of the Constitution! And I'm not afraid to use it!)
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To: nascarnation
They fought, bled and died for our freedoms but now they will lose them anyway.
Personally I think all military personnel should wear a sidearm at all times, if they so choose.
Except when privilege lost due to misconduct.
How far would the Ft. Hood shooter have gone then?

14 posted on 01/23/2013 11:56:40 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: nascarnation

If it were me I’d take a court martial and go public, loudly.


15 posted on 01/23/2013 12:01:43 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: nascarnation

Another step in the leftists efforts to turn the military into another leftwing socialist plantation.


16 posted on 01/23/2013 12:02:52 PM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: nascarnation

Simple: Transfer weapons from yourself (military member) to spouse/relative via bill of sale (depending on state living in). This is perfectly legal here in Arizona. If you live off base the military has no jurisdiction over your family but they do over you. Shortcircuit is to make sure you do not own the weapon legally. I would love to see a courts martial for a soldier who lived off base and whose spouse purchased a weapon for her use off base. I don’t think it would go anywhere. I have heard of military members being held accountable for their family’s behavior but these were all instances that happened on base, not off base. It’s true, as a veteran I can truly say that the military owns your ass while active duty. Not so with spouse/family if living off base.


17 posted on 01/23/2013 12:58:10 PM PST by timlilje
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To: nascarnation

I’ll bet that canoe trips increase in frequency.


18 posted on 01/23/2013 1:50:03 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: nascarnation

“According to a report received from the wife of an active duty lieutenant (not pictured above) who is stationed in Indiana, the Army intends to register the firearms owned not only by servicemen and -women, but by their spouses and children as well . . .”

Why would anyone with an IQ above 20 believe this obvious disinformation? Buckwheat is trying to drive a wedge between patriots. It’s all lies and disinformation.

My sources tell me that the 2ndMarDiv has plans to move up I-95 next week and arrest obuma for treason.


19 posted on 01/23/2013 5:47:09 PM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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To: IronJack
Delay, obstruct, sabotage, go underground, as freedom fighters of past wars would do.
20 posted on 01/23/2013 10:59:56 PM PST by itssme
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To: Neoliberalnot

>> the Obama administration’s “litmus test” for new military leaders is whether or not they will obey an order to fire on U.S. citizens.”

So what then is the “litmus test” to be a citizen?


21 posted on 01/24/2013 4:09:35 AM PST by Gene Eric
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To: itssme

This was always DOD policy. A base is a federal compound so you do have to declare all weapons at the gate. This is not enforced. They have a sign stating “No Concealed Weapons” at each entrance.

It all depends on security how they handle it if they do a search and find a weapon in the vehicle.

They have tried enforcing this at various bases and it was always overturned plus no one complied anyway.


22 posted on 01/24/2013 6:19:16 AM PST by USAF80
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To: Gene Eric

So what then is the “litmus test” to be a citizen?””

Bow to Bo’s tyranny. Please note that criminal aliens have more rights then US citizens.


23 posted on 01/24/2013 6:24:52 AM PST by Neoliberalnot (Marxism works well only with the uneducated and the unarmed.)
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To: Vendome
If it were me I’d take a court martial and go public, loudly.

I dream of a Four Star or an Admiral resigning and going public on what the clown has been doing to our military. That is what it is going to take, since no one in the military can speak ill will of their CIC.
24 posted on 01/24/2013 6:51:21 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

I dream of treason charges, arrest, trial, conviction and justice being served on Obama.


25 posted on 01/24/2013 7:44:13 AM PST by patriotsblood
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