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Chinese military officer warns Australia about siding with Japan in disputes
The Japan Daily Press ^ | January 22, 2013 | Ida Torres

Posted on 01/23/2013 10:51:09 PM PST by Zhang Fei

Senior Colonel Liu Mingfu of the National Defence University has given Australia a stern warning to not side with the “global tiger” (United States) or the “Asian wolf” (Japan) lest it be caught in the middle of the rising tensions over the Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands. He claims that China is a peaceful nation but will fight back if pushed.

Colonel Liu claims that he does not speak in behalf of the leadership of the Chinese leadership, but he is one of the outspoken hawkish People’s Liberation Army (PLA) leaders who are given free reign to speak on certain issues. When asked about the capability of China to fight back, he said that they house strategic missile and nuclear arsenal. While he’s not calling on China to use a nuclear attack, he says there are some scenarios that might justify it. ‘‘If this Japanese wolf again attacks America’s Pearl Harbour or Australia’s Darwin, how do you know it wouldn’t receive another nuclear bomb?’’ Colonel Liu said.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; china; japan
Sabre-rattling from a sub-flag rank officer suggesting that China will use nukes against any country that resists its conventional forces.
1 posted on 01/23/2013 10:51:27 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

“Let’s do it, Lunger.”


2 posted on 01/23/2013 11:06:49 PM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

You’re my Huckleberry


3 posted on 01/23/2013 11:57:04 PM PST by clamper1797 (De-throne King Obozo)
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To: Zhang Fei

Hey China...shut up...You underestimate a lot of coutnries and think your bluster will pave a smooth path. You’re not all that cupcake.


4 posted on 01/24/2013 12:25:37 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Zhang Fei
It seems to me that the Australians' smartest maneuver would be (1) to encourage as many smart, educated Americans, e.g. Freepers, as possible to immigrate there and (2) to cozy up to India.

Otherwise, they'd better prepare themselves for Tibetization.

5 posted on 01/24/2013 2:03:33 AM PST by Savage Beast (The forces of decadence are the forces of evil.)
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To: Savage Beast

Australia is an island nation. You need a big navy to get there. As long as the RAN and the USN have attack subs, it will be very hard for the PLAN to project that far.


6 posted on 01/24/2013 3:40:06 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Zhang Fei.


7 posted on 01/24/2013 4:12:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: clamper1797; onedoug
“Let’s do lunger”. “You’re my huckleberry”

Of course you know that the Regime, will back the Chicoms. The “Justice is Coming” administration left in January of ‘09.

8 posted on 01/24/2013 4:14:22 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Colonel Liu claims that he does not speak in behalf of the leadership of the Chinese leadership, but he is one of the outspoken hawkish People’s Liberation Army (PLA) leaders who are given free reign to speak on certain issues.

He speaks for the Chi-com government in a role that allows deniability on the extent of the threats.

9 posted on 01/24/2013 5:17:41 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Australia is an island nation. You need a big navy to get there. As long as the RAN and the USN have attack subs, it will be very hard for the PLAN to project that far.

The Chinese have ICBMs, a few decent submarines (more than Australia), and a far better surface navy (including a new carrier) than Australia. Note that China also just started acquiring medium range Backfire bombers.

Without U.S. support, the Australians are at a real severe disadvantage. Expect Indonesia to act as a one-way membrane allowing Chinese moves, but not Australian.

China is at a disadvantage against an allied Japan, Taiwan, Australia, assuming Russia doesn't lend a hand, which is why they are working at splitting up that alliance.

10 posted on 01/24/2013 5:26:30 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan
"Without U.S. support, the Australians are at a real severe disadvantage."

Umm, well, yes. I think I mentioned the USN. You might as well say that virtually any nation, that doesn't want to fall to China or islam or some local despot, is at a "real severe disadvantage" without US support.

11 posted on 01/24/2013 5:38:52 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: ICE-FLYER

Just keep in mind:

China is running MASSIVE surpluses with other countries, who are importing vast and growing amounts of manufactured goods from China.

That must stop. Bring back manufacturing now.


12 posted on 01/24/2013 5:43:16 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Zhang Fei
TRANSLATION: "We'll see to you later."
13 posted on 01/24/2013 5:59:47 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Umm, well, yes. I think I mentioned the USN. You might as well say that virtually any nation, that doesn't want to fall to China or islam or some local despot, is at a "real severe disadvantage" without US support.

Russia isn't. Japan doesn't have to be, but they would need to go nuclear.

The point is that China is driving wedges between its adversaries and using a very large hammer. Obama isn't just ignoring the cracks, he's making a point to be seen ignoring the cracks. The Australians would be foolish to presume that the USA will back them unconditionally.

14 posted on 01/24/2013 6:06:24 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: ICE-FLYER

The PRC must’ve hired NK’s speech writer...


15 posted on 01/24/2013 6:07:56 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: Zhang Fei
He claims that China is a peaceful nation but will fight back if pushed. Chinese General

Since 5.45 A.M. we have been returning the fire, and from now on bombs will be met by bombs. Adolf Hitler September 1, 1939 - Germany faked the Gleiwitz incident and then Adolf claimed that Germany has begun to shoot back. I guess Hitler felt that Germany had been "pushed".

16 posted on 01/24/2013 6:21:39 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
He claims that China is a peaceful nation but will fight back if pushed. Chinese General

China has never been a peaceful nation. At its unification after great slaughter, China's land area was a quarter what it is today. At the end of the 18th century, China doubled its land area via armed conquest. In the last two centuries, China has been militarily weak rather than peaceful. In the past 60 years alone, China has fought significant wars with the US, South Korea, India, the Soviet Union and Vietnam.

17 posted on 01/24/2013 5:17:46 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Chinese map at its founding 2200 years ago:


18 posted on 01/24/2013 5:20:57 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Savage Beast

If you want to emigrate to Australia you can..just bring money.


19 posted on 01/24/2013 9:35:57 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Zhang Fei

Formosa was not part of Qin China. It wasn’t even Chinese until 1661 when the collapsing Ming Dynasty conquered it. It was under Chinese rule from 1661 until 1683. It was then under Manchu/Qing rule until 1895. For the next 50 years, it was Japanese. Only in 1945 did it return to Chinese mainland rule and then for only a few years.


20 posted on 01/25/2013 5:43:27 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew
Formosa was not part of Qin China.

Too true. Very sloppy of the guy doing the map.

21 posted on 01/25/2013 6:18:01 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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