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The GOP Gets Fiscally Tough: The latest debt-ceiling deal is a hopeful sign for many conservatives
nat review ^ | 1/24/13 | j fund

Posted on 01/24/2013 6:39:44 AM PST by bestintxas

House Republicans appear to have gotten some of their mojo back. GOP leaders say they will insist that automatic spending cuts (the “sequester”) scheduled to begin on March 1 will be made and that the House will adopt a budget resolution that would lead to a balanced budget within ten years without raising any more taxes. Just a few months ago, they were singing a different, less fiscally tough tune.

On Wednesday, the House suspended the limit on the nation’s debt ceiling. That gives Republican lawmakers nearly four months to sort out what they will demand in exchange for raising it and puts that potentially market-spooking debate off until after budget battles over the scheduled sequester cuts and the expiration on March 27 of a continuing resolution to fund the government. Republicans view the political terrain on those issues as more favorable than that of any confrontation with President Obama and Harry Reid’s Senate over further spending cuts.

For once, it was Democrats who were split down the middle on how to handle a sensitive issue: The House voted 285 to 144 to pass the debt-limit suspension, with nearly half of Democrats supporting the measure and seven out of eight Republicans voting for it. President Obama has said he will sign the measure, despite his opposition to parts of it.

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Bill Buckley is turning in his grave if he saw what his National Review has turned into.

Celebrating as a victory spending more money that is not there and giving a free hand out to liberals when there is no budget is tantamount to surrender.

Are there not intelligent people left at all?

1 posted on 01/24/2013 6:39:54 AM PST by bestintxas
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To: bestintxas

How many reading this thread wanna bet that the debt ceiling WILL BE INCREASED WITH ALMOST NEGLIGENT SPENDING CUTS in 3 months?

The name of the game has always been — KICK THE CAN.


2 posted on 01/24/2013 6:41:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: bestintxas
What difference does it make
3 posted on 01/24/2013 6:43:02 AM PST by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: bestintxas

We need to reign in our imports.

We are sending billions, and billions, and billions of dollars to India, South America, China.

All one way. China especially gets stronger.

We get weaker. Constantly.

Eventually this is a reason for great concern. I would posit, if we do not do something to change what is happening, that time is rapidly approaching.

Bring back US manufacturing.

Now.


4 posted on 01/24/2013 6:44:21 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: bestintxas

It’s so predictable. The Republicans will crow about their spending cuts, and the Federal Government will spend 20% more next year.

Wake up bubbas.


5 posted on 01/24/2013 6:49:16 AM PST by DManA
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

One note Charley reports in.


6 posted on 01/24/2013 6:50:15 AM PST by DManA
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“Bring back US manufacturing.”

we need it as protection. Who will build the tanks and armanents when we will need them?

WWII we converted out auto plants to build war machines.
Can’t ask China’s auto plants to build them for us, they will be building them for themselves to fight us.


7 posted on 01/24/2013 6:51:56 AM PST by bestintxas (Anyone who votes for Obama after these 4 miserable years needs to take a mandatory citizenship test.)
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To: bestintxas
"House Republicans appear to have gotten some of their mojo back"

The gutless cowards in the House no more have "mojo" (or even gonads) than pigs have the ability to fly.

8 posted on 01/24/2013 6:53:49 AM PST by Carl Vehse
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To: bestintxas

Is b*ll-less Boehner involved?

Feggetabowdit.


9 posted on 01/24/2013 6:54:19 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: bestintxas

The words ‘tough’ and ‘GOP’ in the same sentence.

That’s sort of like ‘winning’ and ‘Cubs’ in the same sentence. Or ‘Hillary’ and ‘slender’.


10 posted on 01/24/2013 6:56:13 AM PST by lurk
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To: bestintxas
On Wednesday, the House suspended the limit on the nation’s debt ceiling.

SOrry. Am I misunderstanding this? We now have NO debt ceiling???

Isn't this exactly what Obama DEMANDED? That he have control of the debt ceiling? We have no debt ceiling until May 18? So now as long as they do all their spending before May 18, it's all good? They can spend as much as they want as long as it's before May 18? Did I get that wrong?

So they can spend the entire 2013 year, as long as it's POSTED before May 18? And why stop there? If we have no debt ceiling, they can do the spending for the next 4 years as much as they want. No debt ceiling is a disaster. Usually don't they have to raise it by a certain amount or am I misunderstanding something here??? Sure hope I am.

And we got nothing in return? Sequester don't matter with this. They can spend it and call it something else.

ARE THEY FRICKIN CRAZY? *NO* DEBT CEILING???????

Yah. I think it's time to jump the GOP ship. Why bother? They're just Dems with an R in front of their name.

11 posted on 01/24/2013 6:59:07 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Get in touch with your galtitude!)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

One could always look up and read the bill.


12 posted on 01/24/2013 7:01:24 AM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: SeekAndFind

The US government should - and could - get to a balanced budget within TWO years, but even in the best fantasy simulation, that is not going to happen. Nobody who is in position to make it happen is in the least interested.

Not Bronco Bama. Uncompromising ideologue that he is, and with an attitude that dwarfs that of even Benito Mussolini, he has battles to fight, and most of them are with history and precedent.

Not the US Senate, so long as Harry Reid draws breath. Dingy Harry will not, for illogical and devious reasons, even consider debate on a Federal budget, let alone pass one. Passing “resolutions” to keep the various agencies running conceals a great deal of unmanaged spending in play, with no accountability or oversight.

Not the House, which seems to surrender time after time of matters of conscience and responsibility, because they don’t want to get tagged as the “villains” in this drama.

But surrender is not any path to victory, or even resolution of the current crisis. The mud wallow we find ourselves in only keeps getting deeper and wider, with no hope of pulling ourselves from the mire.

Set the debt ceiling at what it was in November 2006. And don’t budge. The wrath of the world at the massive default should be sufficient incentive to put the house in order.

For sure, a LOT of spending would have to stop.

Cold turkey is one of the more dreadful prospects any junkie has to face, except that the other choices are even worse. There is no tapering off, and the only other alternative is coma and death.


13 posted on 01/24/2013 7:07:19 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The name of the game has always been — KICK THE CAN.


To be fair, it’s all they really have. If Reagan could somehow return from the grave today to lead the party, it is all he would have.

Fortunately, someone did actually return from the grave. His solution is fantastic, but the evil one must be exposed first, before we can all revel in the final schadenfreude. But even that will be brief since they will quickly go to total and utter irrelevance.

I’m getting the feeling the evil one(s) are getting exposed to those that are not deluded. It sure likes like it to me anyway.


14 posted on 01/24/2013 7:08:26 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: bestintxas

Can’t ask China’s auto plants to build them for us, they will be building them for themselves to fight us.


Truer and closer than you may think:

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/01/22/23-Jan-13-World-View-China-warns-Australia-not-to-side-with-America-in-case-of-war


15 posted on 01/24/2013 7:09:55 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: bestintxas

I think this is saying the only spending cuts will be the automatic ones that were passed in 2011 by not stopping them, and they will delay the Senate pay if they cant pass a budget.

So what does the 10 years ‘resolution’ mean? Anything?

This may be the best they can get w just the House, but I wouldnt call it a bold step.


16 posted on 01/24/2013 7:10:47 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to O is NO principle!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Really, the party must go on....


17 posted on 01/24/2013 7:14:36 AM PST by refermech
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To: bestintxas

Thanks.

Our side is way into the buy-China thing so I expect there will be a process of denial, while more and more Chinese imports crowd out, yet more American jobs.

But there is no doubt. We need to change. Big time.

Wake up GOP.


18 posted on 01/24/2013 7:27:30 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

We can’t as long as we have to pay union workers $100K to build a car that they sell for 30K that should sell for half that much.


19 posted on 01/24/2013 7:37:30 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

I strongly disagree.

We have no national trade practices. Our trade practices are to export jobs.

Now we see the results of those: Democrats.

We have been on the wrong path. We need to protect American jobs.

Sure allow imports, but build up our own jobs first.

Bring back US jobs now.


20 posted on 01/24/2013 7:40:24 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I hear you loud and clear. Time to return to American manufacturing and industry. It is the only way to create the wealth needed to pay off our debt. Even if we cut all spending and tax Americans 125% of their income, we will never pay off our debt unless we bring back wealth creation in America.


21 posted on 01/24/2013 7:54:33 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
They took our jobs!

Seriously, the solution is to eliminate the taxes and pro-union laws that discourage investment over here, not to implement some sort of protectionist trade embargo. However, I do support tariffs on Chinese goods, or any other countries, to match whatever tariffs they or policies they have on our goods.

22 posted on 01/24/2013 8:29:12 AM PST by Scutter
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
‘GOP leaders say they will insist that automatic spending cuts (the “sequester”) scheduled to begin on March 1 will be made and that the House will adopt a budget resolution that would lead to a balanced budget within ten years without raising any more taxes.’
This is a flop. Ms. Clinton has their little mojos in her little mojo box and She supports Mr. Obama.
Frogs can pass resolutions that they will fly in ten years, and in ten years, they will jump and still land on their azz.
And the cuts are mainly in our military, and Mr. Obama is getting us in another war as we post.
When my political enemies said I was doing great and were ready to support my proposals, I knew I had made a mistake.
Thus with the failed Republican Party except they choose to continue making the same crooked mistakes. TWB
23 posted on 01/24/2013 8:44:34 AM PST by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
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To: bestintxas
On Wednesday, the House suspended the limit on the nation’s debt ceiling

This thread needed a barf alert.

24 posted on 01/24/2013 11:34:37 AM PST by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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