Constitution? We don't need no stinking Constitution!
Posted on 01/24/2013 6:55:40 AM PST by NKP_Vet
Reacting to reports that outgoing Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta is lifting the Pentagon’s long-standing ban on women serving in combat, former DOD Inspector General Joseph E. Schmitz tells Newsmax that he believes the decision will lead to a “degradation of good order and discipline” and may even be unconstitutional.
Senior defense officials say Pentagon chief Leon Panetta is removing the military's ban on women serving in combat, opening hundreds of thousands of front-line positions and potentially elite commando jobs after more than a decade at war.
“Introducing mixed gender combat units in my experience and judgment will inevitably lead to a degradation of good order and discipline,” asserted Schmitz, a recognized constitutional expert who held the position of DOD’s top investigator from April 2002 to September 2005 after 27 years of Naval Service, including four years at the Naval Academy, five years of active duty in the fleet, and 18 years in the Naval Reserve.
Schmitz tells Newsmax that it is questionable under Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution whether Panetta has the authority to make such a change to America’s “land and naval forces,” since this authority is specifically granted to Congress.
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what is the anticipated rate of turnover due to pregnancies?
Will their assignment be "guaranteed" to them following maternity leave?
What quota will be established for women in combat squads?
Last night on Faux News...
To anyone like me that has not had TV since 1997, on the rare occasions I AM exposed to it it is quite obvious.
Another thing that was probably not thought about when King Obama ordered Penetta to do it is keeping women on active duty and enlistment of women. 99% of women will want no part of being in a combat unit so they are not going to join the military. Most that join will be certified bull-dykes. Big, greasy lesbians getting in the way of men trying to do their job. Can you imagine taking orders from a dyke that thinks she can kick your ass? How’s that going to go over?
I just hope the Lord above spares my family & I from whats surely coming.
Elections have consequences. The American people have elected a bizarre vile President who is implementing a wrongheaded liberal agenda. The economy has been weakened, the culture coarsened and the military disrupted. The grave harm being done to America goes unrecognized by a majority of its uneducated decadent citizens. Dopey people will never understand what or why has happened. The liberal leaders in politics and the media have committed grievous crimes against the people. Only history will hold them accountable.
Once again the panty waisted kongress shirks its sworn duty to uphold the Constitution. They are too busy running around hitting on donors for contributions to their next election campaign. Term limits or tarred and feathered rail rides are in their future. I’m leaning toward the rail rides. (jus’ sayin’)
Constitution? We don't need no stinking Constitution!
“Unconstitutional” is an outdated, obsolete notion.
It has been replaced with something called “Roberts”.
Listen Leon, since you have decided to retire, I have one thing left I need
for you to do, cuz if it goes bad I can't take the blame for it. I need for you
to announce that women will now be allowed inside frontline combat units.
This may be our only chance to cripple the military once and for all.
Are you up for it?
Sure boss.
Exactly.... since when has this group been interested in the constitution?
I tell my wife that all the time as she watches the Fox and Friends drivel. I like to point out to her the duplicity of people like Sean Vanity and O’Really saying they are conservative but in the next breath introduce their “real good friend” some RINO (like Coulter) or left wing hack.
She says I read too much FR, Red States, and the like and it makes me angry and says they are too full of conspiracy stuff to be taken seriously. I just chuckle as she watches an interview with Bob Beckel on his take on conservatism. Bless her she is trying.
There are plenty in Congress who will NEVER agree with this.
In fact according to Mark Levin it will eventually become impossible to keep from making women subject to the draft just the same as men are, because the reasons for not subjecting them the same as men is just one lawsuit away, by a man complaining of unequal treatment under the law if he is subject to draft and she isn’t, when she is doing the same jobs in the military he is.
Yes, they say we have a volunteer force, but its only up to a point. Men are forced to register and are subject to draft in case of military need. Levin says only a matter of time until women are, too.
I agree that it is unconstitutional for this not to come from the Congress.
When I said plenty in Congress oppose it, I don’t know what can or will be done about it because that hasn’t had time to play out yet, but I do know they understand this is a horrible, disastrous policy. Please understand this was dropped on them like a bomb at this time purposely. While they are consumed with budget and financial matters and the Congress is brand new, this was deliberately thrown at them now so they would be back on their heels and not in forward position about it.
That’s the way these Communists are taking over America...
Why, I believe the man is correct.
Only Congress has the authority...
“To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;”
From what I understand, Panetta will give women the option of being in combat forces, i.e., they will have to volunteer. This sounds like a double standard. Do men have the same option?
Fortunately, my wife and I are on the same page. I compare our situation to one of those comedy scenes where a bunch of soldiers are standing in a row and the commander asks for volunteers to take one step forward, and everyone except our poor hero takes a step back, leaving the impression he took a step forward.
People like you and me were standing in the middle in the 1960’s. But as the rest of the troops continued to be sucked into the MSM vortex over the years, they didn’t even notice their own shuffle to the left. Now, many of the “conservatives” look to their right and see us far off in the distance as “far right” while the liberals need a telescope to see us.
In reality it is not us that have moved. It is them.
“Introducing mixed gender combat units in my experience and judgment will inevitably lead to a degradation of good order and discipline,” asserted Schmitz
And isn’t that like, kinda the point???
“When I said plenty in Congress oppose it, I don’t know what can or will be done about it because that hasn’t had time to play out yet, but I do know they understand this is a horrible, disastrous policy. Please understand this was dropped on them like a bomb at this time purposely. While they are consumed with budget and financial matters and the Congress is brand new, this was deliberately thrown at them now so they would be back on their heels and not in forward position about it.”
Bumping your post.
Very simple way to stop this crazy idea in its tracks.
“Sure, open up “Combat Arms Billets” to women so they won’t be discriminated against or hampered in career development....
.... 12 months after we re-institute the “Reparations Draft”! “
(Reparations Draft = Draft ONLY women for the Armed Services until the total number of women who have services since Women’s Suffrage passed equals the total number of men who have served since then. Equal Rights necessitates Equal Responsibilities)
That will kill this idiotic idea in a heartbeat.
This is stupid. It is nothing more than destroying the military as a fighting force under the guise of “equality.”
Well said.
Leon Panetta : “LOOK OVER HERE at what we’re doing”.
I can see a discrimination lawsuit on behalf of men in the military.
Better: declare that women will be affirmatively-assigned to combat/hazardous jobs until female casualty rates match male casualty rates. It's only fair.
#13—great post. I’m not surprised by this. Hollywood has been portraying 100 pound starlets beating the crap out of men twice their size for some time. My husband commented that its dangerous, some young girls may actually believe they can do it.
It also reminds me of the push to match funding for womens sports on the university level with that of mens sports, which bring in huge sums of money for the university. The experience of people I know has been that it brought in an over-representation of lesbian women to college sport. So maybe this is part of that same thinking. I agree with Mark Levin that women would legally need to become part of the draft, at least have to register like men do. I don’t think suburban moms who support “feminism” would like to see their daughters threatened with the possibility of frontline military service.
There is more than one way to skin a cat. The skinning of a live cat is problematic, but it might at least be attempted.
If the left wing anti military, social services types are polled one might learn that many desire women in combat rolls.
Any rational person, and especially those women who have tried but failed to pass muster know that women lack the physical traits necessary.
So, issue an edict making women eligible for combat. The edict will be challenged and in court before it can be implemented. The edict might be overturned on constitutional grounds thus relieving the jug eared one of the responsibility. He made the effort by having a wornout party hack issue the edict on leaving office. The departing party can’t be harmed because he is gone.
it may take a while and of course paying off lawyers and judges and all the court hangers on, but the cat will be skinned
That is a considerable load for an average sized woman.
Also what about the prospective casualty rate among both men and women?
The Russians tried women in line units and abandoned the idea as unworkable.
I laugh at the leftist o-holes who tell me “Stop watching Fox News” and reply, “You really think Fox is right wing?!”
The answer is always yes, because that’s what they hear other leftist o-holes say.
“The Russians tried women in line units and abandoned the idea as unworkable”
So did the Israelis. Not even Hitler was tried this BS. Women were in support roles in Nazi Army.
ditto. Just remember, this earth is only our temporary home, not our permanent residence! He has gone before us to prepare our homes, and He will come back for us! Jesus fulfills prophecies and keeps His promises.
Peace to you and your family & blessings!
In WWII Russian female snipers were very effective ... Pavlichenko in particular with 309 confirmed kills ... with a number closer to 500 in actual kills.
In all sincerity, thanks - thats just what I needed to hear.
Actually, snipers is about the only field I would let women participate in. Many women have good aim. As to the rest, keep them out. This could be a fine example of be careful what you wish for as you may get it. All these women thinking they are feminazi’s screaming for equal rights on the front lines. Well, let’s see how much they actually try to get those positions now that the choice of becoming battle hardened will be a reality. I suspect 90% or more of women in the services are actually secretly horrified at being presented with this option.
You aren’t going to see many volunteers, and amongst the ones that do, most will fail to pass the physical requirements for front line service. The whole thing is a big joke, as the ladies on the front line will all soon find out. Hah, the Obama regime has inadverdently called their bluff. Most of the ones that are itching to fight are the dykes anyhow. Well, let’s see how the ladies feel after a goodly number of their kind get picked off in battle, or captured, tortured, and/or raped. Won’t be so much fun then to be “one of the boys”, because they’re not.
Solution for this is very simple.
Simply make women fight in all-female units only. All male units. All female units. No morale degradation for the male units.
Female units? No female would join one! Every woman would know that would be suicidal - or a welcome-mat for rape by any enemy........
You have nailed the goal — cripple the military.
You got it.
Women have unofficially served in combat units for years. They go with the men to search women they may come upon.
Was just watching “The Five” on Faux News. They were talking about women now being in the infantry. They all agreed with it and said “bless their hearts if that’s what they want”.
Faux News is every damn bit as liberal as the other news channels. I have yet to see anyone mention Congress’ role in lifting the ban on women in combat. I guess Penetta controls Congress.
Faux News is every damn bit as liberal as the other news channels
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They are indeed.
I never watch “The Five”. Can’t stand it.
This illegitimate administration is so deep into unconstitutional territory it can only be described as a revolution. The really horrible thing is that no Rs are making any sounds at all. Not a squeak. There is no opposition.
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