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Bill proposed in Oregon would make cigarettes prescription-only drugs
KPTV ^ | 01/23/2013 | FOX 12 Webstaff

Posted on 01/24/2013 11:19:29 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

SALEM, OR (KPTV) - If you're a regular smoker, you may want to keep an eye on a new bill in the Oregon Legislature.

Rep. Mitch Greenlick, from Portland, is sponsoring a bill that makes cigarettes a Schedule III controlled substance, meaning it would be illegal to possess or distribute cigarettes without a doctor's prescription.

Under the proposal, offenders would face maximum punishments of one year in prison, a $6,250 fine or both.

Other drugs and substances that are considered Schedule III controlled substances are ketamine, lysergic acid and anabolic steroids.

"The State Board of Pharmacy may adopt rules placing requirements and limitations on the sale or transfer of products containing nicotine," the bill's text says.

"I think it's pretty crazy," said Juan Silva of Salem. "I don't see it going through. It's going to be something to watch for, but I don't think it'll pass."

Others see the proposal differently.

"I hope it passes and I hope people actually think about it," said Rick Cannon of Salem. "You know there's less and less smokers everyday because they know how bad it is for them, so I just hope people wake up and realize how bad it actually is for them."

Greenlick also made headlines this week by suggesting a state committee look into the hiring procedure used by the University of Oregon when it named Mark Helfrich the new Ducks head coach.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: cigarettes; tobacco
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Heading to a pharmacy near you.

I wonder if this will be covered by Obaamacare?

1 posted on 01/24/2013 11:19:35 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

I was wondering that also. Why not, it’s prescribed by a Doctor. More freebies perhaps for his followers.


2 posted on 01/24/2013 11:21:23 AM PST by FES0844
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To: Responsibility2nd

We’ve entered the twilight zone!


3 posted on 01/24/2013 11:21:43 AM PST by NRA1995 (I'd rather be a living "gun culture" member than a dead anti-gun candy-ass.)
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To: FES0844

Surely there will be a co-pay.


4 posted on 01/24/2013 11:23:18 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: Responsibility2nd
Any doubt yet that the communists empire is growing? Wake up America!
5 posted on 01/24/2013 11:23:59 AM PST by Logical me
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To: FES0844

I that’s the case then the makers of KOOLS will be smiling...


6 posted on 01/24/2013 11:24:32 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: FES0844

I was wondering that also. Why not, it’s prescribed by a Doctor

Also, can it be deducted as a Medical Expense when you itemize?


7 posted on 01/24/2013 11:26:15 AM PST by jimmyo57
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To: Responsibility2nd

They took time off from their push to legalize marijuana to rejoin the war on tobacco.


8 posted on 01/24/2013 11:31:35 AM PST by Iron Munro (I Miss America, don't you?)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Free;

medical reefer scripts, condoms, abortions, HIV meds, LBGT counseling/support, atty's to sue your mother, father, pastor ...

Bu'cha can't light up

9 posted on 01/24/2013 11:32:50 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Since there is absolutely no medical reason for a doctor to ever prescribe a cigarette this is just a cigarette ban.


10 posted on 01/24/2013 11:38:08 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Iron Munro

legalize marijuana to rejoin the war on tobacco.

Everyone knows you don’t inhale marijuana/s


11 posted on 01/24/2013 11:39:27 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: jimmyo57; Abathar; WinMod70

Don’t know the answer but if it’s gonna be a freebie, I may start smoking again!
(Not really, my kids would kill me!)


12 posted on 01/24/2013 11:41:08 AM PST by FES0844
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To: Responsibility2nd

How does everyone like the nanny state so far? The ruling class politicians are looking out for their “children”. Meanwhile, the potsmoking liberals are still whining about that wascally GOP trying to “take away” their freedoms and liberties. Geez, are those “intellectual” morons stupid or what?


13 posted on 01/24/2013 11:42:15 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Leftists: legalize pot. Ban tobacco. Strange!


14 posted on 01/24/2013 11:43:20 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: circlecity

The poor and minorities are more likely to smoke. This could be interesting.


15 posted on 01/24/2013 11:48:02 AM PST by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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To: circlecity
Since there is absolutely no medical reason for a doctor to ever prescribe a cigarette this is just a cigarette ban.

If you had a doc by the throat choking the life out of them wouldn't that be a medical reason?

16 posted on 01/24/2013 11:48:28 AM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Responsibility2nd

They would be medical devices then. Slap another 2.3% on ‘em.


17 posted on 01/24/2013 11:49:09 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Responsibility2nd

Liberty is slavery!

Yet the leftists will deny that taking control of healthcare is only so that they can use it as a tool to control everyone’s behaviour. What doctor would ever perscribe tobacco and then open themselves up to the malpractice lawsuit industry?


18 posted on 01/24/2013 11:59:00 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: circlecity

My doctor told me I wasn’t getting enough tar.


19 posted on 01/24/2013 12:01:12 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: Responsibility2nd

And isn’t this one of the states that also wants to decriminalize pot? We’re thru the looking glass, people.


20 posted on 01/24/2013 12:05:56 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Responsibility2nd

More money for the blackmarket. More crime for everyone.


21 posted on 01/24/2013 12:07:26 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Buckeye McFrog

In high tax states, tobacco has become the number 1 smuggled item. Its at the top of the list here in Michigan but its also smuggled out of Michigan to Canada where the tax is even higher.

Legalizing and taxing pot won’t take the profit out of it.


22 posted on 01/24/2013 12:10:13 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Rusty0604

More money for the blackmarket. More crime for everyone.

 

EGGS-zactly. Look what Mayor Bloomingidiot in NYC is doing with cigarrette taxes....

 

HOW MAYOR BLOOMBERG FUNDS AL QAEDA

 

New York has the highest cigarette tax rate of any state, and nearly two-thirds of the state’s cigarette market is illegal, announced the think tank Tax Foundation on Thursday.

In New York City the tax rate is even higher, adding another $1.50 per pack to the state rate. It’s not uncommon for smokers to pay $12 for a pack.

Large scale cigarette smuggling networks in New York State are dominated by tight knit nationality-based networks, primarily families through blood or marriage of Lebanese, Yemeni, Jordanian and Palestinian descent.

Federal and New York State law enforcement officials estimate that nearly 60 percent of all convenience retail outlets in New York City are now Arab-owned, and with the Arab networks compartmentalized by ethnicity and family ties, the risk of infiltration by law enforcement is minimal.

In total, law enforcement officials in New York State estimate that well-organized cigarette smuggling networks generate between $200,000 – $300,000 per week. A large percentage of the money is believed to be sent back to the Middle East where it directly or indirectly finances groups such as Hezbollah, Hamas and Al Qaeda.


...maybe they can get into large sodas next.

3 Out of 5 Cigarettes Sold in State With Highest Cigarette Taxes are Smuggled


 

23 posted on 01/24/2013 12:17:31 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: CitizenUSA

We all want the State to decide (that’s what supporting marijuana criminalization means), so the State is deciding.


24 posted on 01/24/2013 12:17:44 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: Rusty0604; dirtboy

A thriving black market and the attendant crime is no reason to end a prohibition. At least that’s what the Drug Warriors say.


25 posted on 01/24/2013 12:20:17 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: circlecity

I thought that we tried prohibition once.

Remind me again, how did that work out?


26 posted on 01/24/2013 12:21:42 PM PST by Delta Dawn (at)
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To: CSM

Has nothing to do with controlling your behavior and everything to do with making you into a profit center. It’s all about the fines, fees, penalties, and taxes.


27 posted on 01/24/2013 12:24:00 PM PST by CityCenter (Compromise is the welcome mat to deception.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Never happen. They'd lose tons of tax cash.

Impeach the kenyan or secession.


28 posted on 01/24/2013 12:25:07 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: circlecity

So if I were to visit from out of state how would I get a prescription ? I drive in from the communist hellhole I live in now, to that Marxist loonie bin and I need a cigarette.

I would need to have my smokes have a script label on the instead of a tax stamp ?


29 posted on 01/24/2013 12:29:21 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Obama has turned America into an aristocracy of the unaccomplished.)
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To: ex91B10

Not to mention cutting off the supply of Newport Menthols to certain neighborhoods could result in Civil Unrest.


30 posted on 01/24/2013 12:30:04 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Responsibility2nd

When legal smokes are $12 per pack it means the smugglers can charge $10 and make a killing.


31 posted on 01/24/2013 12:30:54 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

So if they passed this and some hapless tourist lit up, they could be fined and imprisoned? Sounds like Oregon has finally come up with a way to keep Californians out! It will never happen, the hippies like to light up too much!


32 posted on 01/24/2013 12:35:36 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Ouderkirk

I usually spend a couple of weeks there every year visiting my daughter, I was wondering the same thing.


33 posted on 01/24/2013 12:35:47 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Responsibility2nd; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"The State Board of Pharmacy may adopt rules placing requirements and limitations on the sale or transfer of products containing nicotine," the bill's text says.

I can't wait to see their requirements and limitations on tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, and eggplant -- let alone all the Nicorette gum being peddled by the people behind such idiot ideas.

34 posted on 01/24/2013 12:36:25 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

They just legalized driving stoned in Colorado. No measuring of content to convict them (works with alcohol cases)—only proof of obvious impairment (doesn’t work with most alcohol cases).


35 posted on 01/24/2013 12:39:49 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: CityCenter

They get more in taxes if it’s legal than if it’s sold in the blackmarket. And if they have to spend money housing this new criminal class in prison it’s a losing proposition. Next thing you know the prisons are overcrowded and they have to let the murderers and rapists out early.


36 posted on 01/24/2013 12:40:18 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: CityCenter

“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers — and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system.”

Quote by: Ayn Rand
(1905-1982) Author
Source: “Atlas Shrugged”, Part II, Chapter 3


37 posted on 01/24/2013 12:48:23 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"The State Board of Pharmacy may adopt rules placing requirements and limitations on the sale or transfer of products containing nicotine,"

I guess this might apply to cigars, pipe tobacco, and chewing tobacco too?

Never did I ever imagine (before now) that the simple act of sitting on my own back porch, smoking a pipe of tobacco, just like great-grandpa used to do, minding my own damned business and not bothering anyone, would be such a big concern of The State.

One thing I did notice is how a lot of this sh-t started bursting from the woodwork after Obama got elected. I guess the Revolution is here.

38 posted on 01/24/2013 12:50:12 PM PST by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Rusty0604

“I usually spend a couple of weeks there every year visiting my daughter, I was wondering the same thing.”

Me too! I better get them moved in to my neighborhood!


39 posted on 01/24/2013 12:50:30 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Just switch to merrywana and you won’t need a Rx.


40 posted on 01/24/2013 12:51:11 PM PST by Hattie
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To: Responsibility2nd
I am against this in principle, but my tax dollars are used for nicotine addicts and their illnesses. I'm therefore tossing aside my principles of limited government and supporting this measure until I'm not forced to pay money out of my pocket.

< /Drug War whore mode now off >

41 posted on 01/24/2013 12:58:39 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
"Never did I ever imagine (before now) that the simple act of sitting on my own back porch, smoking a pipe of (your favorite plant), just like great-grandpa used to do, minding my own damned business and not bothering anyone, would be such a big concern of The State."


Don't worry...it's all so they can "serve and protect" you better...

42 posted on 01/24/2013 1:03:52 PM PST by fattigermaster
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To: Rusty0604
They get more in taxes if it’s legal than if it’s sold in the blackmarket.

Yes, but there is at least some accountability. With a black market, the profits can be split between drug smugglers and corrupt government officials.

And if they have to spend money housing this new criminal class in prison it’s a losing proposition.

Not if you're a police union, in which case it's a gravy train.

Next thing you know the prisons are overcrowded and they have to let the murderers and rapists out early.

That's even better. More need for federal revenue and prison guards.

In order to understand the upside to prohibition, you have to think like a whore. (apologies to the world's oldest profession for the insulting comparison.)

43 posted on 01/24/2013 1:10:16 PM PST by Ken H
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To: FES0844

In my mind we’re getting really close to “open season” on the ruling class. These asshats have finally jumped the shark.


44 posted on 01/24/2013 2:07:06 PM PST by rhubarbk
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To: Responsibility2nd; All

Some people are on Paxil... and they go out and shoot up schools.

Me? Well, I’ve been writing off smokes as a medical expense for YEARS. That, and all the coffee and liquor needed for me to keep my wits about me.

It’s for the children.


45 posted on 01/24/2013 2:17:14 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Rodamala

I only take legitimate deductions. Like for my 2 kids, Fido and Old Blue:)


46 posted on 01/24/2013 2:23:13 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Responsibility2nd

Cool,, if they do i intend to buy them elsewhee in the West, like on a low or no tax indian reservation, and then smuggle the into Oregon.

Ill make some bucks.


47 posted on 01/24/2013 2:42:01 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; ...

Nanny State PING!


48 posted on 01/24/2013 2:59:00 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: Responsibility2nd; Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; ...

Nanny State PING!


49 posted on 01/24/2013 2:59:47 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
One thing I did notice is how a lot of this sh-t started bursting from the woodwork after Obama got elected. I guess the Revolution is here.

Where have you been? This crapola started during Clinton and has just escalated. It's got nothing to do with who is in the White House - it was pretty danged bad during the Bush years.

50 posted on 01/24/2013 3:17:39 PM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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