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Shock claim: Obama only wants military leaders who 'will fire on U.S. citizens'
Examiner ^ | January 21, 2013 | Dave Gibson

Posted on 01/24/2013 1:41:34 PM PST by JenB987

On Monday, renowned author and humanitarian Dr. Jim Garrow made a shocking claim about what we can expect to see in Obama's second term. Garrow made the following Facebook post: I have just been informed by a former senior military leader that Obama is using a new “litmus test” in determining who will stay and who must go in his military leaders. Get ready to explode folks. “The new litmus test of leadership in the military is if they will fire on US citizens or not.” Those who will not are being removed. So, who is the source? Garrow replied: “The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.”

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1 posted on 01/24/2013 1:41:39 PM PST by JenB987
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To: JenB987
Garrow replied: “The man who told me this is one of America’s foremost military heroes.”

I'd think the term "hero" would be debatable considering the source chooses to remain anonymous.
2 posted on 01/24/2013 1:45:06 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970

if he ‘comes out’ he’ll still be known as a hero...

until he’s known as the mentally unstable man that jumped in front of the metro


3 posted on 01/24/2013 1:47:06 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: sten; mmichaels1970

I saw the interview with this gentleman (not the officer; Mr. Garrow). VERY credible; was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize just a few years ago. He lives in China and, so far, has managed to save 45,000 baby girls who otherwise would have been killed.

He said he has known this officer (general) for 17 years, that he is a “household name”; a recognized military hero. He had his reasons for not coming forth yet.....frankly he’s a bit technology challenged and wanted his friend, Garrow...who is very Internet savvy....to start this, to make it viral.

They had talked about this for well over an hour by phone, and much more. It was bone chilling to hear, frankly.


4 posted on 01/24/2013 1:51:10 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: RightOnline

He said he has known this officer (general) for 17 years, that he is a “household name”; a recognized military hero. He had his reasons for not coming forth yet.....frankly he’s a bit technology challenged and wanted his friend, Garrow...who is very Internet savvy....to start this, to make it viral.

Well we know he is not Petrayus, as he can use E-mail...


5 posted on 01/24/2013 1:58:25 PM PST by GraceG
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To: RightOnline
He had his reasons for not coming forth yet

I guess I can understand that. But I believe the impact of such a story and accusation will go absolutely nowhere until the source comes forward. A story of such magnitude would cry out for a hero to expose it to the light of day.
6 posted on 01/24/2013 1:58:39 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: mmichaels1970

Agreed. Until someone actually comes forward, it is no different than the stuff on Alex Jones’s website.


7 posted on 01/24/2013 2:05:23 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: JenB987

Senior Generals might agree to it but what about the rest? After all, senior Generals are mostly political – if they want to be promoted.


8 posted on 01/24/2013 2:13:49 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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Generals can issue all of the orders they want but whether or not they would ever have enough of the on the line officers and troops who would follow is another thing.

For very many of the line shooters it would be their own families and friends they would be firing on. Those who would agree to pull a trigger would be the more likely to be fired on.


9 posted on 01/24/2013 2:19:19 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: JenB987

It is legal for generals to lie to a traitor.


10 posted on 01/24/2013 2:41:48 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower.)
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To: JenB987

Cops do it during the course of their every day duties.


11 posted on 01/24/2013 3:04:10 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: JenB987

Already happened. Called Kent State.


12 posted on 01/24/2013 3:20:38 PM PST by lp boonie (Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment)
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To: JenB987

Fair enough, I only want military leaders that will fire on Obama.


13 posted on 01/24/2013 3:25:39 PM PST by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: JenB987

We need names and proof. If this is true, more people should be willing to come out and back up the allegations.

We need more than the word of a Nobel Peace Prize nominee. Heck, Obama is a Nobel Peace Prize winner. Give me facts, not allegations.


14 posted on 01/24/2013 3:35:30 PM PST by Marty
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To: JenB987

We need names and proof. If this is true, more people should be willing to come out and back up the allegations.

We need more than the word of a Nobel Peace Prize nominee. Heck, Obama is a Nobel Peace Prize winner. Give me facts, not allegations.


15 posted on 01/24/2013 3:35:30 PM PST by Marty
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To: JenB987

No apology needed... we all sense something bad is going down...


16 posted on 01/24/2013 3:54:12 PM PST by GOPJ ( Do murder laws control murders?..freeper Red Badger Let's try Criminal control - Fr:MadMax)
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To: RightOnline

Well we can be sure it isn’t Colin $%*& Powell.


17 posted on 01/24/2013 4:04:24 PM PST by To Hell With Poverty (Ephesians 6:12 becomes more real to me with each news cycle.)
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To: mmichaels1970

This will sound tin-foil-hattish.....and there was a time I would have laughed at it, but no longer.

They also made it clear that there have been others before who were going to go public and met “accidents” or “suicides”. Numerous. High profile ones....including a CIA director, an admiral.....so yeah, the guy feels his life is at stake.

He could very well be right.


18 posted on 01/24/2013 5:30:37 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: RJS1950

Right. Too many people think our military are automatons, blindly obeying all orders.


19 posted on 01/25/2013 4:07:52 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: lp boonie

Already happened. Called Kent State.


And troops attacked WWI Bonus Army veterans when ordered to do so. Too many in here are under the illusion that our military would disobey orders to fire on US civilians.


20 posted on 01/25/2013 5:13:31 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: JenB987

Its easy to come up with a conspiracy theory when the whole story is not clear. See.

Before being elected, the occupier of the office promised to fundamentally transform the United States. Throughout his first term he presided over federal expansion through federal regulations from various federal agencies, and one of the largest accruals of national debt. He also allowed a law that gives power to the executive branch to declare martial law without there being a state of emergency that would require it and that allows U.S. citizens to be detained indefinitely without trial, and set up “FEMA camps” to possibly detain citizens. Currently he is working to disarm the American people and supposedly weeding out U.S. military commanders who are unwilling to use lethal force against the public.

Conspiracy theory: Martial law will be declared after the American people are either disarmed or in a position that would make it feasible for the government to confiscate modern weapons, using impending economic collapse as an excuse. This economic collapse has been created and perpetuated by the governing parties. Any vocal leaders of resistance groups will be arrested and detained indefinitely as “domestic terrorists” and military force will be used against any assembly of citizens in open resistance as they will be considered enemies of the state and a threat to the common good.

Conclusion: Totalitarian regime, tyranny. The government will “cleanse” the country of any writings on the founding principles and work to “re-educate” the people. Liberty will be sold by citizens for more and more government “assistance” as a crippled nation suckles the withered teat of a fallen republic.

Made it all up. Could it happen? Sure. Would the American people allow it to happen? I hope not. Are there really plans to make it happen?
I’m going to take of the tin-foil now.

(This is actually a copy paste from another forum, I could not have said it any better and reflects my thoughts precisely)


21 posted on 01/25/2013 5:16:05 AM PST by Eye of Unk (AR2 2013 is the American Revolution part 2 of 2013)
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Would the American people allow it to happen?


Half the population of the country would love for it to happen.


22 posted on 01/25/2013 5:21:03 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: JenB987

And I wonder if Crosby , Still, Nash, Young will write a new song:

Tin Soldiers and Obama com in..... We’re finally on our own.....


23 posted on 01/25/2013 5:23:28 AM PST by patriotspride
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To: JenB987

“Not a single member of the U.S. government or the U.S. military has come forward to confirm the claim.”

http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/citizens.asp


And as far as I know not a single member of the U.S. government or the U.S. military has come out and denied the claim. And lets remember we have a govt. that already has a policy that permits the assassination of U.S. citizens.


24 posted on 01/25/2013 5:45:18 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: R. Scott

The disturbing thing is that it seems many on these forums believe that or at least worry about that as well. The question comes up, do you support the troops but don’t trust them”?


25 posted on 01/25/2013 6:50:36 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: chessplayer

The bonus army incident was at an entirely different time in history. The troops were not as well trained as even my generation was in the late 60s and early 70s in the laws of warfare and what was or was not a lawful order. There were other factors that had a bearing on which of the troops reacted or did not to dugout Doug’s orders. I was a Marine when Kent State ocurred and we were all reminded by our NCOs and officers that the poorly trained guardsmen (and yes, they were poorly trained at that time) Did not react properly and in fact did panic. Also consider that there is much evidence that there was a staged “shot” with the intent by non-student organizers to bring about a deadly reaction. Kent was not a “spontaneous” event any more than Bengazi was.

Troops today are much more aware of their responsibilities and restrictions are under the Constitution and of what is or is not a lawful order. They are not draftees, they have volunteered to serve, even during a time of conflict that could put their lives in danger. Many are the sons and yes daughters of many on this forum. They serve the nation and the Constitution and not a general, a colonel or der Fuehrer.

FUBO & FAD


26 posted on 01/25/2013 7:16:21 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: RJS1950

I trut them. Many of my neighbors are Army or Marine.


27 posted on 01/25/2013 2:52:08 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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