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Rich Lowry: Rush Was Right About Obama
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | January 24, 2013 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/24/2013 2:18:16 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: GOPJ
That’s how we know they know - and that means they were lying.

Yup. Conan Doyle's dog that didn't bark.

It's all the proof anyone needs of mens rea in the MSM. They're lying, they know they're lying, and they want to lie, they love to lie, because they so despise the People and the idea of America.

It's a sardonic new TV series: When the Smartest Kids in the Room Go Bad. So cool, so ironic, so detached ... so rotten.

21 posted on 01/24/2013 8:22:54 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Future Snake Eater
So, in your world, everything is absolutely horrible.

I don't quite get your beef with him -- is it lack of eloquence? Does he need to be Pat Buchanan or Ronald Reagan? I don't quite understand.

And objectively speaking, he's at least partly right -- you could hardly name five people who'd be worse, or more dangerous in the Oval Office, than Barack Obama. His grandaddy was a Mau-Mau, and he's willingly harbored and secretly nursed those grudges against white America like that nasty little Egyptian proto-Salafist, al-Qutb, did back in WW II and later, when he went home to Egypt to write his great hate-tome against America that all the wuzzies read and got cranked about.

Has Obama been much less rad than those guys? And he's the damn President! This is the stuff the writers of The Manchurian Candidate were thinking about.

22 posted on 01/24/2013 8:33:36 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus
I don't quite get your beef with him

My beef with him is that he's angrily criticizing a guy who's done far more to advance conservatism in this country than likely any individual FReeper ever will. And what's his complaint? That Rush hasn't said the equivalent of "I hate your face, Obama!" Wow. Yeah. Good one, there, dude. I'm sure Obama's pissing his pants now.

There's some outstanding analysis on FR. There's also a lot of idiots who think if they string together "Obama," "Marxist," "Kenyan," "Evil," "Communist," and, possibly, "Homosexual" in any permutation then they have really shown some hard thought and excellent analysis of what's happening today and how to change it. Personally, I refer to it as "Conservative Tourette's" and people who practice it should just stop. It goes hand-in-hand with the old "Better to say nothing and let people think you a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."

There are a number of people who just need to keep their mouths shut until they have something useful to say.

23 posted on 01/25/2013 5:31:29 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: lentulusgracchus
“Is there any point to which you would wish to draw my attention?'

To the curious incident of the dog in the night-time.'

The dog did nothing in the night-time.'

That was the curious incident,' remarked Sherlock Holmes.”

Good catch lentulusgracchus... thanks for sharing.

24 posted on 01/25/2013 8:03:01 AM PST by GOPJ ( Do murder laws control murders?..freeper Red Badger Let's try Criminal control - Fr:MadMax)
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To: Future Snake Eater
There are a number of people who just need to keep their mouths shut until they have something useful to say.

And when there is something useful to say, they clam up! No one in the conservative Chattering Classes, including Limbaugh AND National Review, has ever taken notice of the entire issue of Obama's constitutional eligibility or non-eligibility.

I am not even suggesting that they should take sides. God forbid they should offer an opinion on the matter. But they could have easily by honest reporting. After all, they are members of the media.! It IS a legitimate question, and should have been answered long ago by the courts, in particular the SCOTUS, which has been given ample opportunity in many cases, which it failed to address.

I also find them responsible for never urging Republicans to formulate Plans, Programs, and developing the Leadership necessary to implement them. IOW, we all know how bad Obama is. What is the alternative ... how can we specifically undo the damage? Instead, Romney taking his cue from the talkers, ran on the nebulous platform: "I am not Obama."

IMNSVHO, the Right Wing Yakkers and associated media have probably done just as much or more than the Democrats to make Obama the center-piece in a cult of personality. Neither did these broadcasters do much to "get out the vote." They are powerful media men who got that way preaching to a choir of believers, and as such have little influence on actual events.

The Conservative movement in the US is suffering mightily because its premier spokesmen and public philosophers are recycled rock'n'roll disc jockeys whose main objective is selling gold bars and mattresses.

25 posted on 01/25/2013 9:59:45 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Say, what the hell happened to Reggie Love? Who's in the playroom with Barry now?)
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To: Kenny Bunk
It IS a legitimate question

Wrong. It was a legitimate question, but it was very poorly handled as an issue, and it ended the only way it possibly could: with Obama waving around a piece of tissue paper with "Birth Certificate" written on it in Sharpie and the media telling us that the entire thing was finally over.

Now you people want the few strong voices left on our side to completely torpedo their credibility with what amounts to, at this point in the national consciousnesses, a conspiracy theory. Add in a few more names, don't forget to include that "Obama's a stupid-head" and the end of liberalism will finally be near!

26 posted on 01/25/2013 10:07:10 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater
And what's his complaint? That Rush hasn't said the equivalent of "I hate your face, Obama!"

Well, we both know Rush doesn't do that, but I thought FWIW that the poster was trying to convey something that is, pace him, just a fact of life, that Rush can't really say just everything he knows, and there are other things he knows, that he's chosen to defer. An example of the latter would be the vital-documents and document-fraud issue (there is no doubt now, that Obama's grandmother lifted Obama's SSAN in the 70's from a then-recently-deceased merchant seaman; the dead man's identity is a matter of record, and it's a reasonable expectation she stole the number while working at a Hawaiian state agency that gave her access to the deceased's documentary history).

Rush did not, for a long time, touch any of the "Birther" </smear> issues.

Likewise, when Obama came to office, he sent a number of signals to Limbaugh, daring him to bring up some issue or other that Obama knew Rush knew about but wasn't talking about. He dared him, he baited him a couple of times in public remarks that went over the heads of 96% of the audience, and Rush finally said on-air that yeah, Obama was daring Rush to throw down on the issue -- what it was, he wouldn't say. At the time, I thought it might have been the Man's Country issue.

At least I think that is what the poster was referring to, which is a risky exercise given that Rush is on-air about 230 times a year, and damned few people could create with confidence a list of topics he hasn't talked about in the course of his long critique of Obama's political career.

27 posted on 01/25/2013 10:20:39 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kenny Bunk
Instead, Romney taking his cue from the talkers, ran on the nebulous platform: "I am not Obama."

Oh, no he didn't "take his cue" from talk radio. He took his cues from "the pros", among them the execrable Karl Rove. If there were any radioheads out there that were thoroughly down with Romney and articulated his message, nevertheless he did not cue from them, but the other way around. Michael Medved, Hugh Hewitt, Laura Ingraham, and a few others toed Romney's line, but he led, they followed.

28 posted on 01/25/2013 10:29:19 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Future Snake Eater
but it (i.e constitutional eligibility) was very poorly handled as an issue,

Yes. And it was mishandled by our very own RW Talk Show Hosts from the get-go in 2007. Not even the great constitutional scholar Levin managed to tell people that the BC and Constitutional eligibility were separate issues.

Shifting the battleground to the BC was the greatest PR coup of the century, well worth the many Soros-millions spent on it. This IS still a legitimate issue because now, we are going to be looking at Rubio ... born in Florida, with a real BC, and yet neither of his parents was a citizen at the time of his birth. Ditto, Jindal, with one citizen parent.

The issue: is any person born in the US a Natural Born Citizen? Are the children of illegal aliens citizens? Call me old-fashioned, but rather than rely on public opinion, I would require the courts to ... in particular the SCOTUS ... to fulfill their responsibilities.

....you people want the few strong voices left on our side to completely torpedo their credibility with what amounts to, at this point in the national consciousnesses, a conspiracy theory.

Yes. Rather than have candidates torpedo theirs. Are we afraid of a legitimate question?

29 posted on 01/25/2013 11:11:56 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Say, what the hell happened to Reggie Love? Who's in the playroom with Barry now?)
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To: lentulusgracchus
LG, I am not so sure that a good many of the Right Wing Yakkers don't also take their cue from Karl Rove. Remember Rush a few years ago reassuring all and sundry that illegal immigration was "a sign of a healthy economy?" He also bought into the entire Rovian and US Chamber of Commerce Mantra about these "hardworking Catholic family people becoming the "Republicans of the Future."

My main thesis: the raison d'etre for talk radio is to keep an already convinced part of the base amused, and that the Conservative Movement might be better served if a few of these chaps went back to being rock'n'roll disc jockeys and perhaps getting their GED's and going to community college on line.

30 posted on 01/25/2013 11:20:36 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Say, what the hell happened to Reggie Love? Who's in the playroom with Barry now?)
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To: EveningStar

I don’t know what Lowry’s game is. He describes those that didn’t buy what Rush was saying as if HE himself wasn’t one of the biggest “Obama seems pragmatic” cheerleaders.


31 posted on 01/25/2013 11:23:07 AM PST by Fledermaus (I'm done with the GOP. Let them wither and die. Let's start over.)
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To: Kaslin

I’ve pretty much stopped reading National Review because of Rich Lowry. I was disgusted by a statement that Lowry made right after the Obama election in 2008. I actually think that Lowry voted for Obama in 2008, he said that the far right wingers claimed that Obama was a socialist, but that he hadn’t seen any evidence of that in anything that Obama said.

In other words, Lowry was too lazy to vet Obama or look any further than the surface of what Obama was saying in the campaign. Many of the press even continued their Obama discipleship up until the past election. Peggy Noonan, for example, was writing pro Mitt Romney articles in the run up to the 2012 election, right up until she accused Mitt Romney of politicizing the Benghazi attack by calling it a terrorist attack.


32 posted on 01/25/2013 11:36:55 AM PST by Eva
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To: Kenny Bunk
I am not so sure that a good many of the Right Wing Yakkers don't also take their cue from Karl Rove. Remember Rush a few years ago reassuring all and sundry that illegal immigration was "a sign of a healthy economy?"

Well, yeah -- whoever gives out the talking points, which I thought was the foundations (Cato, AEI), that's where the direction is coming from, and Rove is the implementer, and guys like Romney the alleged beneficiaries.

I don't recall Rush taking that line about illegals, but I do remember that it was the Business Roundtable/Chamber/Wall Street Journal line all during the Bush 41-Bush 43 years. I remember, in the late 80's and 90's, the WSJ pounding the table and saying flatly, in editorial, "The U.S. Constitution should be amended to read, 'There shall be open borders.'" Period, end of graf, thud, bump. Well, they didn't look so swift all of a sudden on 9/11. But that's always been their line: Break wages, do whatever it takes to cut costs -- offshoring, green-carding people who barely have English, and shouting, with Eric Cartman, "Whatever! Whatever! I'll do what I want!!"

33 posted on 01/25/2013 11:51:27 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Future Snake Eater
Now you people want the few strong voices left on our side to completely torpedo their credibility with what amounts to, at this point in the national consciousnesses, a conspiracy theory.

In the face of a vast, prolonged, very secret conspiracy, fed and nurtured since the days of Feliks Dzherzhinsky, I would modestly submit that a conspiracy theory might be appropriate.

Remember Edmund Spenser:

Treason never prospers; what's the reason?
For where it prospers, none dare call it treason.

We're about there now.

34 posted on 01/25/2013 12:04:06 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Kenny Bunk
Are we afraid of a legitimate question?

What's the point? Is Holder going to do anything? Is the SCOTUS? After Obama was sworn in in 2009, nobody was going to do anything about it, period. At this point, especially, it's a waste of resources.

Remember, most people think Obama's a "nice guy." This issue rising to the forefront would doom whatever credibility the GOP has at this point.

35 posted on 01/25/2013 1:59:00 PM PST by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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