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Penalty could keep smokers out of health overhaul
Yahoo! ^ | 01/23/2013 | RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

Posted on 01/24/2013 7:48:02 PM PST by kik5150

Millions of smokers could be priced out of health insurance because of tobacco penalties in President Barack Obama's health care law, according to experts who are just now teasing out the potential impact of a little-noted provision in the massive legislation.

The Affordable Care Act — "Obamacare" to its detractors — allows health insurers to charge smokers buying individual policies up to 50 percent higher premiums starting next Jan. 1.

For a 55-year-old smoker, the penalty could reach nearly $4,250 a year. A 60-year-old could wind up paying nearly $5,100 on top of premiums.

Younger smokers could be charged lower penalties under rules proposed last fall by the Obama administration. But older smokers could face a heavy hit on their household budgets at a time in life when smoking-related illnesses tend to emerge.

Workers covered on the job would be able to avoid tobacco penalties by joining smoking cessation programs, because employer plans operate under different rules. But experts say that option is not guaranteed to smokers trying to purchase coverage individually.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: antitobaccoscam; obamacare; scam; smokers; smoking
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They had to pass it to find out what's in it.
1 posted on 01/24/2013 7:48:10 PM PST by kik5150
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'S ok. I'm not participating in this bit of fascism either. When I die, I die. God knows what to do with me.

/johnny

2 posted on 01/24/2013 7:53:31 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: kik5150

Bet there is an obesity penalty, too. We just haven’t “found” it yet.


3 posted on 01/24/2013 7:53:51 PM PST by madison10
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To: kik5150

Are we having fun yet? Seig Hiel comrade?


4 posted on 01/24/2013 7:54:03 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Now Playing. Obama II - The Revenge of My Father.)
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To: madison10

Gun owner penalty is 100%.


5 posted on 01/24/2013 7:56:01 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: kik5150

Wow. That is a huge penalty to smokers. This is insane.


6 posted on 01/24/2013 7:56:25 PM PST by Girlene
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To: kik5150

If you’re connected,powerful or one of “the most vulnerable among us” you won’t have to worry about this.The only people who *will* have to worry are folks like us.The Marxists have the game rigged folks! That explains my tagline.


7 posted on 01/24/2013 7:58:16 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Red State Secession Is The Only Answer)
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To: madison10

The article states that insurers won’t be able to charge more for people that are overweight. (at least not yet)

Guess I’ll have to move to Colorado or Oregon and start smoking dope. At least my insurance premiums won’t be affected.

What a world...what a world.


8 posted on 01/24/2013 7:59:28 PM PST by berdie
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To: kik5150

What the hell is this? Haven’t they been taxing the bejeezus out of smokers for years to recoup the extra money THEY say the smokers cost the health system? Oh yeah and here in California Meathead conned the stupid into taxing smokers even more to fund health care for children, like the money ever got there! Demonize the smokers, let the smokers die they yell, all the while forgetting that they now depend on the tax money from these same smokers to fund their feel good projects. Freaking hypocrites!


9 posted on 01/24/2013 8:05:55 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: kik5150

Aaand the best way to detect a smoker is by a urine test for nicotine, possibly a breath test for CO. There has to be an enforcement technique for this, right?

At the same time dope tests for EBT card recipients is OFF the table.


10 posted on 01/24/2013 8:06:59 PM PST by DBrow
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Something just occurred to me.Yes,smoking is thought to be a health risk.But so is being a fat slob...being an addict...and being homosexual.Will there be any penalties for *these* things?
11 posted on 01/24/2013 8:07:20 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Red State Secession Is The Only Answer)
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It is amazing what could be hidden in plain sight for two years!!!!! What a coincidence: it is disclosed AFTER the Presidential election and not before.

But on the other hand, this IS the media, Congress and the incompetent Republican Party we’re talking about! Nothing surprises anymore in this Neo-Fascist state.


12 posted on 01/24/2013 8:12:23 PM PST by JustTheTruth
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To: JRandomFreeper

Oh I don’t know brother

They may be onto something here.

Let’s see: Tobacco is legal so ban it.

Illegals are uhhh-—legal. Top is now down and uh

Of never mind


13 posted on 01/24/2013 8:17:38 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: Mastador1

VERY WELL SAID


14 posted on 01/24/2013 8:19:15 PM PST by Steve Newton (And the Wolves will learn what we have shown before-We love our sheep we dogs of war. Vaughn)
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To: kik5150

Is there a homosexual penalty? Aids patients die at a higher rate than smokers.....


15 posted on 01/24/2013 8:21:19 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: DBrow
Aaand the best way to detect a smoker is by a urine test for nicotine, possibly a breath test for CO. There has to be an enforcement technique for this, right?

I am sure your doctor will test for it at your next visit. And if they force you to get a perscription for cigarettes from your doctor, then they will know exactly how much you smoke. And don't think smoking related ilnesses will be high on the list once the rationing starts. They will need all the money for things that can't be prevented, like AIDS.

17 posted on 01/24/2013 8:26:03 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: kik5150

Does that mean that the smoker in the White Hut won’t get medical attention? ...We can hope, can’t we :)


18 posted on 01/24/2013 8:26:54 PM PST by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Mastador1

You are sooooo right! These arseholes don’t want people to quit smoking.....it would take away the untold millions in taxes that smokers pay. Hypocrites is an understatement.


19 posted on 01/24/2013 8:29:45 PM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Steve Newton
I've started a batch of tobacco already this year, and I'll start 3 more every 2 weeks to make sure I bracket the window for the weather when it comes time to set them out.

Just like I do every year.

I don't expect I'll quit growing tobacco even if they do outlaw it.

I've gotten very good at saying 'no' and ignoring supid government laws.

/johnny

20 posted on 01/24/2013 8:32:14 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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