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Antibiotic 'apocalypse' warning
BBC News ^ | 24 Jan 2013 | James Gallagher

Posted on 01/24/2013 8:26:25 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

The rise in drug resistant infections is comparable to the threat of global warming, according to the chief medical officer for England.

Prof Dame Sally Davies said bacteria were becoming resistant to current drugs and there were few antibiotics to replace them.

She told a committee of MPs that going for a routine operation could become deadly due to the threat of infection.

Experts said it was a global problem and needed much more attention.

Antibiotics have been one of the greatest success stories in medicine. However, bacteria are a rapidly adapting foe which find new ways to evade drugs.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 01/24/2013 8:26:29 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yeah, yeah, yeah...sounds like an excuse for them to let me die of pneumonia.


2 posted on 01/24/2013 8:30:20 PM PST by DJlaysitup
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To: MinorityRepublican

No, global warming is BS, bacterial tolerance for antibiotics is not.


3 posted on 01/24/2013 8:31:55 PM PST by doc1019
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To: doc1019

Right, my kid had mersa from a scratch two weeks ago. It was a big deal.


4 posted on 01/24/2013 8:35:11 PM PST by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Soooo....all that anti-bacterial soap we buy is not good, eh? (I HATE anti-bacterial soap....but try finding soap that is not, that you do not make yourself.)


5 posted on 01/24/2013 8:36:31 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: goodnesswins

Neutrogena?


6 posted on 01/24/2013 8:38:34 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

Actually, I’m thinking of dish soap, and liquid hand soap. When it comes to hard, bar soap, I think there ARE more options. Just need to change my habits from liquid to hard.


7 posted on 01/24/2013 8:40:19 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: goodnesswins

Trader Joe’s and even Target have basic liquid soap. I had c-diff, so I am paranoid about antibacteria/antibiotic abuse.


8 posted on 01/24/2013 8:43:30 PM PST by conservative cat
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To: conservative cat

So, they don’t have that tetra stuff in them?


9 posted on 01/24/2013 8:44:38 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

My dentist, who is a friend, said this is a big deal. That we may have a tough next 20 years ahead of us. We should stop using anti-bacterial soaps and not go to the DR. over the flu. Surgery will be a bigger deal...they may have to start giving us medicine to build up our bodies to fight things off.


10 posted on 01/24/2013 8:45:04 PM PST by ladyellen
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To: MinorityRepublican

Bacteria resistant to a particular antibiotic has always been a problem but there have always been new antibiotics in the pipeline to deal with them. The regulatory burden, i.e. cost, of bringing a new antibiotic to market has grown so large that there are few in development currently.


11 posted on 01/24/2013 8:46:56 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: goodnesswins

In many cases the advertised anti-bacterial soap is just soap. They can get away with this because any soap that cleanses is killing bacteria.


12 posted on 01/24/2013 8:47:34 PM PST by doc1019
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To: doc1019

COULD be...but, I DO read ingredients....and avoid those with the tetra stuff in them....am I being paranoid?


13 posted on 01/24/2013 8:49:12 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: goodnesswins

In this day and age, you can’t be to paranoid. Better safe than sorry.


14 posted on 01/24/2013 8:52:53 PM PST by doc1019
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To: goodnesswins

Dr Bronner’s or JR Watkins soaps/loions
You are good to go.


15 posted on 01/24/2013 8:53:52 PM PST by acapesket
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To: MinorityRepublican

“The rise in drug resistant infections is comparable to the threat of global warming,”

Stopped there.
Antibiotic-resistant bacteria is a looming severe problem, yes, but that doesn’t mean the author isn’t an idiot.


16 posted on 01/24/2013 8:55:33 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: lookout88
Right, my kid had mersa from a scratch two weeks ago. It was a big deal.

I had MRSA, but acquired it in the hospital after surgery.

However, bugs like MRSA are not only existent in hospitals anymore...they are in the community. I know a teenager who had a similar experience to your son. They figured he got it at the gym, and as you said it was a big deal.

Common UTIs which used to be no big deal are now becoming a big deal as "bugs" that were once just hospital acquired are now in the community, and many are antibiotic resistant. I had a bladder infection but ended up in the hospital for 4 days on IV antibiotics because the bacteria was resistent to all but a few antibiotics, and those happened to be IV only.

My advice to anyone is to be vigilant if you get an infected sore or if you have a UTI that isn't responding to normal antibiotics...get a culture done so you know what you're dealing with. The threat is real and not something to be scoffed at.

17 posted on 01/24/2013 8:55:53 PM PST by memyselfandi59
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To: facedown
Bacteria resistant to a particular antibiotic has always been a problem but there have always been new antibiotics in the pipeline to deal with them. The regulatory burden, i.e. cost, of bringing a new antibiotic to market has grown so large that there are few in development currently.

I don't know any of this stuff so could it be that we already have come up with easy antibotics? And finding new ones are much tougher now that bacteria is much hardier than in the past?

18 posted on 01/24/2013 8:56:08 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: acapesket

Oil of oregano. olive leaf oil , Vitamins D and C just for a start.

Dang... that should have read “LOTIONS”! d’oh


19 posted on 01/24/2013 8:59:31 PM PST by acapesket
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To: MinorityRepublican
I don't know any of this stuff so could it be that we already have come up with easy antibotics? And finding new ones are much tougher now that bacteria is much hardier than in the past?

There may be some truth to that but the main problem is that there simply isn't that much R&D on antibiotics because the cost to profit ratio is unfavorable.

20 posted on 01/24/2013 9:11:50 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Phages replace and supplant antibiotics. God already has the antidote provided on Earth for any problem.


21 posted on 01/24/2013 9:15:50 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: MinorityRepublican
people are demanding antibiotics for everything....sinusitis is one of them.....no wonder we have bacteria that are resistant....

drs prescribe antibiotics because the patients pressure them to "do something" but mostly, it is to avoid the law suit if in some rare case the person doesn't get well....

22 posted on 01/24/2013 9:25:41 PM PST by cherry
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To: MinorityRepublican

You know what the REAL reason for this is..? The 3rd World.

Yup. Here in the West, we have the perscription system —you can’t just pay money for your fave antibiotic in any store, and get full-strenth anti-biotics.

Ok well when you’re super poor in Mexico, then which anti-biotic would you buy? The cheapest one that showed an effect.

So these people treat themselves UNTIL THEY **FEEL** FINE, and then they stop. And when they FEEL fine is when 99% of the bad guys have been killed. And 100% of the remaining 1% of those bad guys are then a little or a lot closer to knowing how to fend off that anti-bacterial —that nice cheap one.

If you go to an expensive doctor GENERALLY they’ll take a culture and figure out which one the bug is vulnerable to, give you a script, and then tel you to FINISH THAT REGIMEN, and not stop simply when you FEEL better.

The Third World is the cause of this, sorry....


23 posted on 01/24/2013 9:26:00 PM PST by gaijin
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To: doc1019

The labels are generally referring to the triclosan ingredient.


24 posted on 01/24/2013 9:26:53 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by Nature, not NurtureĀ™)
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To: facedown
There may be some truth to that but the main problem is that there simply isn't that much R&D on antibiotics because the cost to profit ratio is unfavorable.

So what can we do to reform all of this? I mean, we wouldn't want to see people in the next twenty years die from MRSA infections in the gym and from infections occured during routine surgeries. All of us do not realize how many people died from simple germs only two or three generations ago and it's looking like it's going to happen again.

People living to age 60 will be considered to be fortunate. I guess that's good for Social Security.

25 posted on 01/24/2013 9:27:18 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican
So what can we do to reform all of this?

Reconstruct FDA to its original purpose and reform tort law.

Easier said than done.

26 posted on 01/24/2013 9:37:23 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: facedown
"...there simply isn't that much R&D on antibiotics because the cost to profit ratio is unfavorable."

Think that's bad? How would you like to be next poor schlub to get bit by a coral snake?

27 posted on 01/24/2013 9:45:35 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: acapesket

Thanks.


28 posted on 01/24/2013 10:08:54 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
The fraud known as global warming is no threat except for the excuse it gives wannabe tyrants to seize power. The threat of drug resistant bacteria? Off the charts. We will see a pandemic in the next 10 years. Max. And tens of millions (at the least) will die, all while government run “health care” and the LSM try to cover it up. The reality is that watching friends lose jobs is one thing. Watching them die is quite another.
29 posted on 01/24/2013 10:25:47 PM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: memyselfandi59

Congratulations! I too am a MRSA survivor.

I went in for a complicated heart surgery. I had a stroke during surgery and contracted MRSA.

What was planned as a 6 to 8 day stay in the hospital, became 2 very long months of multiple surgeries and painful hell. Most heart surgery patients end up with a zipper scar on their chest.... mine is a crevice. I call it my cleavage. ;>)

At about 30 days, they thought I was ok to send home. Three days later, I was rushed back to the hospital for more cutting into my chest and another month in the hospital. The bill for that 2 months was over a million dollars.

My heart doc tells me that it is very unlikely that anyone would agree to proceed with any further heart surgery on me, because of how badly my body responds to it. Essentially, they are afraid that the MRSA is still within me, just dormant and if it is disturbed, it could raise hell all over again.

Yep, the antibiotic resident issue is very real.... and MRSA is very deadly.


30 posted on 01/24/2013 11:19:29 PM PST by Gator113 (Leave my guns alone and REGISTER THE DAMN LIBERALS!!)
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To: goodnesswins

The only soap I use - - including to wash my hair - - is Ivory.
It’s allegedly 99.44% pure. I don’t know what the other .56% is.


31 posted on 01/24/2013 11:45:15 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: conservative cat
Trader Joe’s and even Target have basic liquid soap. I had c-diff, so I am paranoid about antibacteria/antibiotic abuse.

Wow, you had c-diff ? That is nasty stuff right there, and DIRECTLY attributable to hospital cleanliness (proven).

Glad you made it. My wife is working on a team to come up with a vaccine for that.

32 posted on 01/25/2013 12:48:32 AM PST by onona (KCCO, and mind the gap)
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To: Gator113

Sorry to hear about your complications from surgery.

My hospital stay wasn’t as long as yours (

After awhile in the hospital, I was sent home with IV antibiotics, that they teach you how to give to yourself (through a pic line. So I did that for 6 weeks at home and they had a nurse stop by every couple days to draw blood, change the pic line dressing, and check vitals.

I hate hospitals so I can imagine your frustration at being in there so long. I’ve heard of surgeon’s reluctance once you’ve had MRSA.


33 posted on 01/25/2013 4:37:30 AM PST by memyselfandi59
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To: Joe 6-pack
How would you like to be next poor schlub to get bit by a coral snake?

Antisera and vaccines are in very short supply. In these cases, little to no R&D is required as the procedures and formulations have long been known. Here it is entirely a matter of product liability cost.

34 posted on 01/25/2013 9:04:51 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: goodnesswins

No, none of Trader Joe’s do, I don’t think, and Target you have to look for the natural brands. J.R. Watkins was the kind I just bought.


35 posted on 01/25/2013 9:16:36 AM PST by conservative cat
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To: onona

Yes, colitis caused by. Awful. I suspect I picked it up at a G.I. doc’s office, where I was going to get some post childbirth damage finally fixed. Month later, I was in the hospital.


36 posted on 01/25/2013 9:20:29 AM PST by conservative cat
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