Skip to comments.GOP Leaders May Finally Be Catching On
Posted on 01/25/2013 5:51:51 AM PST by Kaslin
Speaker John Boehner finally declared this week that President Obama's goal over the next few years is to "annihilate" the GOP. Wow, he finally figured that out. And to reporters about his ticket's defeat in November, Rep. Paul Ryan stated that there was a failure to turn potential Republican voters out -- again, another "ah ha" moment.
What is really going on is that the more old-time Republican Establishment is starting to realize that simply playing the same old game against a new, brilliant and Democratic political juggernaut led by their symbol of success, President Obama, will likely yield the same results.
To Ryan's credit, he told the same group this week that what Republicans need is more "Jack Kemp." And Ryan is so right.
Remember, Kemp was a "conservative opportunity" Republican with an always positive attitude, which he carried with him as secretary of housing and urban development under President George H.W. Bush. Kemp reached his political pinnacle as the vice presidential nominee running with former Sen. Bob Dole in 1996.
Kemp was added to the ticket in part because of his long history of advocating tax cuts, in part to advance the concept of supply-side economics. Dole and Kemp had clashed in earlier years, with Dole viewed as the more traditional "Establishment-type" and Kemp the populist conservative who had a strong interest in issues that were typically not part of the GOP agenda, such as the health of cities, moving those in public housing toward ownership and responsibility for their homes, and eliminating weapons and drugs from the hands of the criminals who in urban areas possessed them.
When it came to issues such as immigration and gay rights, Kemp was more of a pragmatist. In June of 2006, Kemp warned in a column, "Failure to address the legitimate issue of immigration reform could also do great harm to the Republican Party."
He advocated both the tough approach of truly enforcing the borders while at the same time crating some form of status for those already present.
Now conservatives such as Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida are increasingly proposing such moves in order to finally fix an issue that is costing the nation lost tax revenue and Republicans votes among a growing Hispanic/Latino electorate who once viewed the Republican Party as a vehicle to help lift them up.
More importantly, both Ryan and Rubio seem to represent a new breed of Republican leaders who want to double down on the GOP's devotion to issues of fiscal responsibility, but couple them with policies that offer opportunity and hope to a large number of people who now view themselves as part of "the middle class" that clearly is drifting in the direction of not only a liberal but, in many ways, increasingly socialist leadership.
Some very strong conservatives have urged that even Republicans engage the White House and Democrats in Congress with blunt talk, spelling out clearly what they observe, pulling no punches. And it appears, with Boehner's declaration as to President Obama's intentions, even the "Establishment Republicans" might be reaching that point. They replaced the word "progressive," which is increasingly being used to label President Obama, with the more accurate label of "moderately socialist," when describing current Democratic policy in Washington.
But if Republicans are to start stating the obvious about the president's goals of redistributing wealth and resources through various policies and legislation, they must offer an attractive alternative.
That means by its very necessity embracing the needs of the nation's cities, finding a way to provide a path toward some form of legal worker status that requires paying taxes and no shortcut to actual citizenship. And, most importantly, that requires explaining how the Republican policies of lower taxes, less government and defense of personal liberties actually benefit the many voters who in November either chose Obama out of fear, on a coin toss or simply decided not to come out in support of Gov. Romney.
Republicans need more plain-speaking leaders who fight for providing opportunity to more people through less government intrusion. In other words, the Republicans truly do need more Jack Kemps.
Now about the most important point of all:
HIRE AMERICANS. Stop shipping our industry to foreigners.
Lets just say Kemp would be a step in the right direction.
GOD DENIERS AND CONGENITAL LIAR DEMOCRATS
WANT YOUR MONEY AND YOUR GUNS
WHY ARE THE GOPES* HELPING THEM ?
*government of the people elites
This is the second quote of mine from here that I have heard used by the GOP recently, phrases that I made up myyself and have posted here in comments months earlier.
Bobby Jindal gave the GOP a lecture to stop the ‘stupid talk’, that was a buzz phrase I started posting here last year too.
“ O knew exactly what he was doing when he called plan B a tax increase on TV. His goal is total annihilation of the R party so he has complete control of congress his last two years and can finish his job,”.
69 posted on Saturday, December 22, 2012 2:13:58 PM by sickoflibs
I need to trademark these.
Thanks for confirming the obvious... the problem isn't that they are slow to recognize that the enemies of this country are their "friends across the aisle", it's that they are gutless, limp-wristed, unprincipled pansies, unwilling and uninterested in making a stand in defense of the Constitution. I've never even seen one of these candy a$$es raise his or her voice when the liberal scum are lambasting them with one of their incoherent, mindless spittle-laced diatribes. The GOP is dead to me. The People are going to have to right this ship on their own... some day.
Nodoby wants to anihilate the GOP. They want to neuter it. Well, not really since they did that years ago.
How about those crazed politicians in DC lower the corporate income tax on companies. I do believe that would be a damn good start in getting some of those companies back in the United States.
That is also a very good point.
However it is not one I am winning to wait for.
Bring back American industry now.
One of the problems is that people have a bias in favor of normalcy - in other words, the GOP has been acting for the last four years as if this were just a normal Dem regime, in which case their normal arguments, negotiations and usual political tradeoffs would have worked.
But this isn’t normal anymore. This is a serious attempt not even by one party, but by one person, using that party, to take over the US and fundamentally change it.
We suffer from the “It Can’t Happen Here” mentality, and for a long time, I think people closed their eyes to the fact that it was happening, and very fast. And finally all but the most mild-mannered, wussiest of the GOP are now waking up to this fact.
We’ll just have to see whether or not it may already be too late.
I figure it will take about a million of us, well-armed with lots of rope and marching on Washington, and not as a symbolic protest.
finally catching on? If so, these guys are balls lost in the high weeds and too stupid to be there in the first place. Know your enemy is the first law of survival. So, by definition, these guys are too stupid to survive and need be removed from the playing field.
BS. He’s in on it.
0bama isn’t out to “annihilate” the GOP... he is out to “annihilate” the republic.
It took our leader in the House a very long time to realize what the President is doing. With the executive orders we no longer need the House or the Senate. Obama is ignoring our Constitution and no one in D.C. will try to stop him.
Too bad we can’t elect men or women who have the ability to understand what the Democrats (or whatever they should be called) are doing. The DC Elites only care about their power. They are willing to destroy our country to play golf with the President.
You can always pick out an unprincipled liberal republican posing as a conservative when they put qualifiers next to the word conservative to identify themselves.
no more GOP?? since DC is all one big happy crime family, what's in a name? We're on to DC's "good cop - bad cop" ploy Boner and most of you are bad, and you being one of the worst.
So, today is April 1st?
Frankly I doubt Boehner is capable of figuring anything out. More likely some overpaid consultant has focus grouped the term “annihilate” and it tested well.
That's all well and good, but how does that compare with the Democrat's vision, that government is the source of "collective happiness?" How does "freedom" compare with "getting stuff for free?"
Until the GOP can articulate that, they will forever wondering how to out-do the Dems. They can't just say, "we're preserving freedom," or "we're trying to preserve a pro-growth economic climate" -- that means nothing to a un-educated, low-information voter, living in their parents' basement. To such a voter, they don't care about marginal tax rates, Laffer Curves, or a prohibitive regulatory environment. They're trying to fulfill their basic necessities in life, and the Democrats are offering them.
Sure, the low-info voter doesn't have the foresight to know that government can't keep taking from the rich forever...they're living for today. Until the GOP can show them how voting for "freedom" is better for them in the long run, they're going to be a minority party for a long time.
You can now tell the Republican leadership what you think by taking their survey. If the multiple choice questions are inadequate, you can further explain your position to them in a comment box at the end of the survey. I wrote quite a bit there.
Here’s the link: http://growthopp.gop.com/default.aspx
Without them, we will continually drain away our money to the lowest level; just as assuredly as water flows through locks in a canal.
Get used to it. I’ve had entire articles copied.
The sheeple are not aware that companies do NOT pay taxes.
They are merely another cost of doing business and are PASSED on to the final customer.
The Gov't does NOT want this slight of hand noticed.
HIGH wages for American workers are also PASSED on to the customer.
When a new FORD is bought; wages and worker insurance cost more than the STEEL in the vehicle.
I was just having fun, I think it is funny.
I think the demorats are realizing that they can’t offer more grand progressive program schemes like free dental care or free veterinary care, etc.
What they can do is keep expanding food stamps, social security disability, union pension supports, bloc grants to the cities, etc.
The big question is can they expand their base by TAKING AWAY things from Americans such as their guns, salt, sugar, property rights ( EPA ),cigarettes, etc. while legalizing drugs, same sex marriage, post delivery abortions, euthanasia, smart meters in homes, etc.
Demorats just can’t help themselves. They have to be in control of your lives. At what point will it all break down, not so much fiscally which it will, but in terms of big government intrusion in individual lives?
What’s excellent about the GOP caving on illegal immigration—which will assure their party’s perpetual minority status at the voting booth?
As long as you have 50% of the population lying around grabbing money from the other 50% there is nothing you’re going to say to want them to go back to work.
Ummm... maybe some day conservatives will understand and come to the realization that "annihilation" is underlying every leftist's desire. And this is not political annihilation. A leftist's heart's desire is to use the power of the State to MURDER every political opponent. Historically, this happens every time the achieve the power to do so.
Hispanics, except for Cuban exiles, have NEVER looked to the GOP for ANYTHING. They've always supported the Democratic Party, to get FREE STUFF promised them by "Landslide Lint'n" Johnson and others -- straight quid-pro-quo vote-buying. That's why Johnson and Ted Kennedy labored so strenuously to tear down the dam holding back illegal Mexican immigration.
LBJ didn't want immigrants from Vanuatu or Thailand or Peru or southern Europe. He wanted Mexicans because he knew they were pickled in communismo and trabajadores militantes, state-supported market subsidies and price controls on staples and all that Frida Kahlo crap down there. That is exactly and pure-dimensionally LBJ's motive for breaking the border.
And true to form, Mexican and Mexican-American voters have never given the GOP more than about 30-35% of their votes.
Central Americans and South Americans are another story -- they split their votes, and when someone like George W. Bush gets 40% or better Hispanic votes, that is where they're coming from, not from Tejano Democrats or California Aztlanists charmed by George P's Mexican mom.
Kemp was a Bush-like liberal on immigration, and a supporter of racial preferences. I’m sure he was never once in his life asked about the unintended and increasingly huge collision between these two positions.
So on those two issues he was worthless, and most elite Republicans have already followed his lead there.
"Isn't electing him Speaker of the House a rather... extravagant means of educating him?"
I will always remember Kemp’s response to Al Gore’s backhanded compliment, that at least ‘ol Jack wasn’t racist like the rest of his party, at the 96 VP debates: “thanks”...
It really is bizarre how so many Republicans and alleged conservatives believe this utter nonsense that Hispanic immigrants are natural Republicans. You hear it all the time, from dolts like Sean Hannity or people capable of interesting insight like Charles Krauthammer. They persist in this fantasy despite no evidence to back it up.
Republicans always lose the Hispanic vote, and they always have. Reagan (amnesty, romantic rhetoric), Bush I (signed legislation increasing legal immigration, including the absurd Diversity Visa), and Bush II (tried to pass amnesty and massive increase in legal immigration, plus nauseating leftwing rhetoric) were all liberal on immigration, yet Hispanics voted against them all.
You’d think actual voting results would convince them, but believers of this myth say the voting is a result of insensitive and harsh rhetoric from Republicans, and their pursuit of ‘anti-immigrant’ policies. Apparently they also ignore polling data about the views of Hispanics on specific issues. If they bothered looking, they’d see that Hispanics profess liberal views on a whole host of issues. Whether its Obamacare or gun control, they are left of center. And on social issues like gay marriage they are moving left like the rest of society.
I think some of them, deep down, must realize the terrible truth, that it was a huge mistake for the country to ever let Ted Kennedy rewrite immigration policy in the 1960s. And the mistake was compounded by Reagan’s amnesty and the Bush I’s expansion of immigration. They must know that mass immigration was always going to favor the Democrats. But now it seems nothing can be done to stop the flood, so they lash out at those who have spoken the truth and blame them for an inevitable result of mass immigration.
Guess I missed something. Anyway I just wanted to go on record as being opposed to sending any more American industry to the Chicoms.
That is my real point. Other than that I’m with you 100%.
They don’t get it and they won’t get it. This is an all out war and the media, not the dems, is the number one enemy. They need to stop caring what the MSM thinks.
I always thought that was a covering lie-meme, myself.
The reality being that the GOP works for major employers who are committed almost to a man to breaking wages and driving down costs (even if it means the American People end up living in the slums of Calcutta, or their equivalent), and that therefore the leadership of the GOP is fully committed to open immigration by hook or by crook.
The Wall Street Journal, pre-9/11, once fulminated in an editorial that "the Constitution should be amended to read, 'There shall be open borders.'" Literally.
They modified that stance after the World Trade Center fell, killing so many back-office employees that even the Lords of Wall Street couldn't ignore the slaughter of their own down the street.
What we have here is RiNO droppings about keeping the border open so that the RiNOate's select clientele of big, low-wage employers can keep on breaking wages and driving down costs (but not prices!!) by hiring a steady, unstanched flow of illegals from Mexico.
Hispanics are one thing, Mexicans another. Mexican nationals are thoroughly steeped, even imbued to the bone, with far-left, Communist ideas about the relationship of the individual to the State. They are culturally resistant to the core idea of America. THAT is why the 'Rats have wanted them voting, ever since LBJ tried to get the wartime braceros to stay on in 1953. (But President Eisenhower signed an Executive Order that sent them home.) LBJ wanted those Mexicans in the voting booth from the very first -- and that's why he promptly attacked the immigration laws in 1965 as part of his legislative blitz. NO, it was NOT Jack Kennedy's idea -- it was Landslide Lint'n's, who never met 1,000,000 Mexicans he didn't want to give the vote.
NO, LBJ did NOT want people from southern Europe or Vanuatu or Tonga or Australia or Mongolia. He wanted Mexicans because he knew they'd vote Democrat, and they'd vote Democrat to the death -- down through four or five generations, easily ("cultural conservatism" -- their tendency to vote the way Grandfather did -- is very strong).
"Immigration reform" is all about putting Mexican voters in U.S. voting booths. Other Hispanics will split their votes and give the GOP a chance to tell them our cultural and political message -- Mexicans won't, and that's why the 'Rats love them.
At least Bill will never have to worry again about being caught in the same room as Vidal. ;)
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