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Gun Dealers Have Problems With Credit Card Processors
newschannel5 (Tennessee) ^ | January 24, 2013 | Chris Cannon

Posted on 01/25/2013 11:28:30 AM PST by Myrddin

LEIPER'S FORK, Tenn. - A Williamson County gun dealer recently learned a credit card processing company no longer wants to do business with him.

"We go through all the hoops and all the steps and at the end of the day it's still a struggle to get the same services anybody else would," said Nick McMillan.

He owns Leiper's Fork Firearms. It is a small gun dealership McMillan runs out of his home.

"We're set up like a business, just like every other small business out there," he said.

McMillan is a has a federal firearms license and is heavily regulated by both the state and federal governments.

But McMillan received an email from Intuit Payment solutions informing him the company was no longer interested in processing his credit card sales.

"They either reviewed several accounts, or it was a company wide policy, because I wasn't the only federal firearms license dealer that got pushed out the other day," McMillan said.

In the email the company wrote "Intuit does not support the services you are providing" and then the reason stated was firearms, ammunition, gun parts and accessories sales not sold in a face-to-face environment with the credit card being swiped.

McMillan does not know the exact reason behind the policy change, but speculated the nationwide gun debate may be behind the move.

"I think companies like this are so afraid of any negative publicity they'd rather not participate," McMillan said.

The small business owner said the move by Intuit will not stop him from selling guns.

"Intuit Processing isn't my only option, I am set up with another company that's a lot more friendly to the industry," said McMillan.

He does feel as if the company is discriminating against federally licensed gun dealers.

"It's up to them who they provide the service to, at the end of the day, which is fine. But, it does seem like we get discriminated against a little bit," McMillan said.

NewsChannel 5 tried contacted Intuit to get a comment about the company's email to McMillan. No one from Intuit returned messages.

email: ccannon@newschannel5.com


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; creditcardsdenied; creditcardssales; guncontrol; gundealers; secondamendment
It seems Intuit Payment systems has decided to impose their anti-gun politics on their customers. This appears to be a growing trend of attacking gun dealers by ripping away their credit/debit card processing capability.
1 posted on 01/25/2013 11:28:43 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Hard core communists taking control of America. Wake up America.

COMMUNISTS
COMMUNISTS
COMMUNISTS
THEY ARE DESTROYING AMERICA!


2 posted on 01/25/2013 11:31:42 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Myrddin

Well, the people, and the market, spoke at the recently “postponed” outdoor show in Harrisburg, PA that put the kibosh on AR-15, and similar, rifles.

Perhaps the people, and the market, need to speak again—This time more loudly.


3 posted on 01/25/2013 11:33:25 AM PST by Arm_Bears (Ted Kennedy's Oldsmobile has killed more people than my guns.)
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To: Myrddin

The NRA has a special member benefits section set up just for this type of situation. They offer NRA member stores discounted credit card processing services and also Gun store insurance services. Pass this on to your local gun shop owner they may need it.

http://www.nraba.org/benefits.aspx

Please pass this information on to every gun dealer you know.


4 posted on 01/25/2013 11:33:39 AM PST by cquiggy
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To: Myrddin
Good...and good riddance to Intuit.

Now go and find a good conservative credit card processing company.

As an aside, this is just another way Obama has divided the country.

5 posted on 01/25/2013 11:35:46 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Myrddin
How about Obama uses an EO that demands all gun owners wear a six pointed star in public? I'm sure that it would protect all the children and please the Left...

I hope someone is keeping track of all the traitors and other Democrats.

6 posted on 01/25/2013 11:39:13 AM PST by jonascord (Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a Single Star!)
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To: Myrddin

http://www.leipersforkfirearms.com/


7 posted on 01/25/2013 11:41:34 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Myrddin

...kind of like Christian photographers declining the gay weddings...


8 posted on 01/25/2013 11:44:01 AM PST by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: cquiggy

It seems like it might be a good time for the NRA to establish a members credit union to take care of this kind of situation.


9 posted on 01/25/2013 11:47:59 AM PST by jimbobfoster
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To: Myrddin

Seems to me that if these Communist POS’s were truly fearful of the unwashed masses having weapons to protect themselves from crime, bodily harm, and government overreach, they’d stop provoking them. Instead, the government uses its various corporate surrogates to intimidate, coerce, and mandate certain behaviors... this is the reason why the jug-eared moron is destroying small businesses; its easier to control a few companies than it is a few thousand.


10 posted on 01/25/2013 11:58:01 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Myrddin
Isn't Intuit the maker of Turbo Tax?

Don't they want my business?

The product I need usually costs about $70. I've tried other products but I found them wanting. Any Freeper recommendations in case we must boycott Intuit?

11 posted on 01/25/2013 11:58:54 AM PST by William Tell
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To: Myrddin

I see a golden opportunity for a brand new start up business, and I’m interested in investing in it. I think it would be highly profitable. And I don’t think it would be susceptible to a lot of criminal risk, either.


12 posted on 01/25/2013 12:03:48 PM PST by Real Cynic No More
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To: William Tell
It's too late for me to withdraw my TurboTax purchase this year. Their decision will influence my continued relationship as a customer. Their behavior needs to go viral. There isn't a better time to hit them as people are going to be shopping for tax software in the next few weeks.
13 posted on 01/25/2013 12:04:22 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: William Tell
Isn't Intuit the maker of Turbo Tax?

Yes, and Quick Books, and a multitude of other products.

I use Tax Act, but my returns are pretty basic (W-2, a couple of 1099s, and a dependent or three). They appeared to be quite similar to Turbo Tax when I switched for cost purposes (they were roughly half the price of Turbo Tax). I can file my state and federal for under $20 as a returning customer.

14 posted on 01/25/2013 12:07:15 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: Myrddin

It’s easier for GayMuzzie to lean on banks and large companies than it is for him to lean on the American People.

Ever notice just HOW MUCH he loathes Democracy..?


15 posted on 01/25/2013 12:10:22 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Myrddin

I always use cash to buy guns and ammo. Why create more of a paper trail with a credit card?


16 posted on 01/25/2013 12:20:21 PM PST by Veggie Todd (That's some bad hat, Harry.)
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To: Myrddin

I AM GOING TO REMEMBER THIS.

17 posted on 01/25/2013 12:24:22 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Myrddin

Are you sure it came from Intuit, and not from a prankster or a phishing attempt?


18 posted on 01/25/2013 12:26:08 PM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: Daveinyork
Did you read the story? The gun dealer had his credit card processing pulled. The TV station reporter tried to get a statement from Intuit and they would not comment. The dealer has a merchant account relationship with Intuit. He lost his ability to process purchases from customers. That's not a phishing attempt.
19 posted on 01/25/2013 12:29:39 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: gaijin

I will as well. Lots of other choices on the market.


20 posted on 01/25/2013 12:36:24 PM PST by Roses0508
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To: William Tell
Any Freeper recommendations in case we must boycott Intuit?

In case?

21 posted on 01/25/2013 12:42:28 PM PST by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: William Tell

I’ve been using the H&R Block product for the last decade or so with good results...


22 posted on 01/25/2013 12:46:19 PM PST by Noumenon (One individual with courage, determination and a rifle can change the course of history.)
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To: Roses0508; gaijin
I will as well. Lots of other choices on the market.

Ditto.
23 posted on 01/25/2013 12:50:26 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: William Tell

If really needed just have a friend that is technically adept grab you a good copy off a bittorrent site or usenet in a few weeks after a copy shows up. I already do this explicitly (over vpn) to give the finger to Hollywood. I’ll feel extra special this year doing it to Intuit again!


24 posted on 01/25/2013 12:56:28 PM PST by brandon24
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To: Roses0508

I have sent the article to all my freedom loving friends, no more Intuit products for me or my family. They are a
making a political statement and so am I.


25 posted on 01/25/2013 12:56:28 PM PST by bfree (Biden '13)
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To: Myrddin

I read the article. I only saw that he got an email.


26 posted on 01/25/2013 12:59:28 PM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: William Tell

I’ve found taxslayer.com to be head and shoulders above turbotax.


27 posted on 01/25/2013 1:05:05 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: William Tell

Idea of the day. I was planning to buy a copy of Turbtax this weekend. Now I never will. I’ll find another vendor or do them myself.

I’ll also be sending them (Intuit) a note this evening. We all should.


28 posted on 01/25/2013 1:05:05 PM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: Myrddin

I’ve been using their products since 1987. I use proseries for processing my clients’ tax returns, quickbooks, and their mobile device credit card swiper. I’m also a quickbooks advisor. I’m finding it ever more difficult to do business with them, and I just found it nearly impossible to contact them to confirm this story. I emailed them, but I don’t expect a reply. I can’t do anything about quickbooks. The competition is worse than they are, but, I’m seriously considering other options for tax return processing next year, especially if this is true.
Read their social responsibility articles on their website, but not immediately after you have eaten.

One theory is that they rely on the IRS approving their software for forms preparation and efiling, and may be trying to keep in the government’s good graces. But that’s just a theory. We live amongst a lot of low-information people.


29 posted on 01/25/2013 1:17:23 PM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: William Tell

TaxAct online... They are Great!


30 posted on 01/25/2013 1:38:40 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Myrddin
This appears to be a growing trend of attacking gun dealers by ripping away their credit/debit card processing capability.

I think that the Obama Administration is quietly and deliberately working behind the scenes (through the Treasury Department) to encourage and facilitate these cancellations. This is the third one I've seen this week and it can't be a coincidence.

31 posted on 01/25/2013 1:48:40 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: William Tell

I used to use Turbotax but I can’t stand Intuits leftism. I now use an accountant from my church. The cost is maybe double Turbotax but well worth it. He, like my Dr and my surgeon are gun owners. And I live in Ct. :-)


32 posted on 01/25/2013 1:54:14 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Myrddin; William Tell; IYAS9YAS; gaijin; 3boysdad
I plan to switch to H&R Block At Home tax preparation software. Nothing else from Intuit. I have used H&R Block before and it is usually less expensive and works about as well for non-business returns.
33 posted on 01/25/2013 2:28:09 PM PST by JeepersFreepers (The heart of the wise inclines to the right but the heart of the fool to the left. (Eccl 10:2 NIV))
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To: Timber Rattler
Rahm Emanuel is getting the act now. He is leaning on banks to pull financial support from gun manufacturers. If you can't get the desired result using the proper legislative route, abuse the government bureaucracy to do it via the back door. See link
34 posted on 01/25/2013 2:32:38 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Daveinyork
I've used their products as long as they have been in business. I have many former co-workers who moved to Intuit for employment. Thankfully, I never succumbed to that temptation. It would be a major embarrassment.
35 posted on 01/25/2013 2:35:43 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

clients who ask me will be directed to their competitors. (see also stay away from bank of america)


36 posted on 01/25/2013 3:04:36 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Myrddin

Husband called them at corporate headquarters. They have recieved several calls and are starting to be concerned. Lets turn up the heat!
Intuit Corporate Headquarters
2632 Marine Way
Mountain View, CA 94043
650-944-6000


37 posted on 01/25/2013 3:25:23 PM PST by AZHSer
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To: William Tell

I’ve always used Tax Cut, which was renamed recently by H & R Block. I like it a lot.

I hope nobody tells me something dreadful about H & R Block now..... :)


38 posted on 01/25/2013 6:52:13 PM PST by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: jimbobfoster

“It seems like it might be a good time for the NRA to establish a members credit union to take care of this kind of situation.”

No, the NRA needs to focus on its message and be the voice for their membership. They are doing precisely what they ought to do right now

The damned banks need to honor lawful activity and not bend to tears and shrill demands, after all, lawful gun owner taxes went to bail them out too, so it would seem to me it’s the very least they could do.

That said, it appears there is a tremendous opportunity for some capitalists to fill an unmet need that would also be profitable in providing banking/card services/financing for gun dealers and their millions of customers.


39 posted on 01/25/2013 10:30:11 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: AZHSer

“Intuit Corporate Headquarters
2632 Marine Way
Mountain View, CA 94043
650-944-6000”

Ping for later call!


40 posted on 01/25/2013 10:33:22 PM PST by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: AZHSer
Husband called them at corporate headquarters. They have recieved several calls and are starting to be concerned. Lets turn up the heat!

That's the point of getting the word out. Let them feel the consequences of their actions. Perhaps it hadn't dawned on them that their customer base includes a lot of gun owners.

41 posted on 01/25/2013 11:11:23 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

I received the following reply to my emailed inquiry:

“Thank you for contacting Intuit.

We continue to process face-to-face transactions of firearms sales through Intuit Merchant Services. Consistent with industry practice, we are unable to process credit card transactions for certain highly regulated online businesses, and end those relationships when we become aware of them.

Sincerely

Intuit | Terry | Office of the President/Privacy |


42 posted on 01/26/2013 5:56:04 AM PST by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: Daveinyork
Does that mean a "magnetic card swiped" is still honored vs an online card number/name/expiration/security_code is not? Does the FFL lose all processing services if there is an online and face-to-face configuration or does the face-to-face still work. The answer sounds like having any online aspect terminates the relationship.
43 posted on 01/26/2013 8:41:13 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: AZHSer
AZHSer supplied: "650-944-6000"

I made my call this morning.

A young lady finally came on the line. When I described my issue, she immediately redirected my call to a message assuring me that I shouldn't leave a message as the mail box would not be monitored.

I will need to ask my son-in-law to choose a different manufacturer's product.

44 posted on 01/28/2013 9:03:16 AM PST by William Tell
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To: Myrddin

The banks are taking control.


45 posted on 01/28/2013 9:05:04 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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