Skip to comments.Gun Dealers Have Problems With Credit Card Processors
Posted on 01/25/2013 11:28:30 AM PST by Myrddin
LEIPER'S FORK, Tenn. - A Williamson County gun dealer recently learned a credit card processing company no longer wants to do business with him.
"We go through all the hoops and all the steps and at the end of the day it's still a struggle to get the same services anybody else would," said Nick McMillan.
He owns Leiper's Fork Firearms. It is a small gun dealership McMillan runs out of his home.
"We're set up like a business, just like every other small business out there," he said.
McMillan is a has a federal firearms license and is heavily regulated by both the state and federal governments.
But McMillan received an email from Intuit Payment solutions informing him the company was no longer interested in processing his credit card sales.
"They either reviewed several accounts, or it was a company wide policy, because I wasn't the only federal firearms license dealer that got pushed out the other day," McMillan said.
In the email the company wrote "Intuit does not support the services you are providing" and then the reason stated was firearms, ammunition, gun parts and accessories sales not sold in a face-to-face environment with the credit card being swiped.
McMillan does not know the exact reason behind the policy change, but speculated the nationwide gun debate may be behind the move.
"I think companies like this are so afraid of any negative publicity they'd rather not participate," McMillan said.
The small business owner said the move by Intuit will not stop him from selling guns.
"Intuit Processing isn't my only option, I am set up with another company that's a lot more friendly to the industry," said McMillan.
He does feel as if the company is discriminating against federally licensed gun dealers.
"It's up to them who they provide the service to, at the end of the day, which is fine. But, it does seem like we get discriminated against a little bit," McMillan said.
NewsChannel 5 tried contacted Intuit to get a comment about the company's email to McMillan. No one from Intuit returned messages.
Hard core communists taking control of America. Wake up America.
THEY ARE DESTROYING AMERICA!
Well, the people, and the market, spoke at the recently “postponed” outdoor show in Harrisburg, PA that put the kibosh on AR-15, and similar, rifles.
Perhaps the people, and the market, need to speak again—This time more loudly.
The NRA has a special member benefits section set up just for this type of situation. They offer NRA member stores discounted credit card processing services and also Gun store insurance services. Pass this on to your local gun shop owner they may need it.
Please pass this information on to every gun dealer you know.
Now go and find a good conservative credit card processing company.
As an aside, this is just another way Obama has divided the country.
I hope someone is keeping track of all the traitors and other Democrats.
...kind of like Christian photographers declining the gay weddings...
It seems like it might be a good time for the NRA to establish a members credit union to take care of this kind of situation.
Seems to me that if these Communist POS’s were truly fearful of the unwashed masses having weapons to protect themselves from crime, bodily harm, and government overreach, they’d stop provoking them. Instead, the government uses its various corporate surrogates to intimidate, coerce, and mandate certain behaviors... this is the reason why the jug-eared moron is destroying small businesses; its easier to control a few companies than it is a few thousand.
Don't they want my business?
The product I need usually costs about $70. I've tried other products but I found them wanting. Any Freeper recommendations in case we must boycott Intuit?
I see a golden opportunity for a brand new start up business, and I’m interested in investing in it. I think it would be highly profitable. And I don’t think it would be susceptible to a lot of criminal risk, either.
Yes, and Quick Books, and a multitude of other products.
I use Tax Act, but my returns are pretty basic (W-2, a couple of 1099s, and a dependent or three). They appeared to be quite similar to Turbo Tax when I switched for cost purposes (they were roughly half the price of Turbo Tax). I can file my state and federal for under $20 as a returning customer.
It’s easier for GayMuzzie to lean on banks and large companies than it is for him to lean on the American People.
Ever notice just HOW MUCH he loathes Democracy..?
I always use cash to buy guns and ammo. Why create more of a paper trail with a credit card?
I AM GOING TO REMEMBER THIS.
Are you sure it came from Intuit, and not from a prankster or a phishing attempt?
I will as well. Lots of other choices on the market.
I’ve been using the H&R Block product for the last decade or so with good results...
If really needed just have a friend that is technically adept grab you a good copy off a bittorrent site or usenet in a few weeks after a copy shows up. I already do this explicitly (over vpn) to give the finger to Hollywood. I’ll feel extra special this year doing it to Intuit again!
I have sent the article to all my freedom loving friends, no more Intuit products for me or my family. They are a
making a political statement and so am I.
I read the article. I only saw that he got an email.
I’ve found taxslayer.com to be head and shoulders above turbotax.
Idea of the day. I was planning to buy a copy of Turbtax this weekend. Now I never will. I’ll find another vendor or do them myself.
I’ll also be sending them (Intuit) a note this evening. We all should.
I’ve been using their products since 1987. I use proseries for processing my clients’ tax returns, quickbooks, and their mobile device credit card swiper. I’m also a quickbooks advisor. I’m finding it ever more difficult to do business with them, and I just found it nearly impossible to contact them to confirm this story. I emailed them, but I don’t expect a reply. I can’t do anything about quickbooks. The competition is worse than they are, but, I’m seriously considering other options for tax return processing next year, especially if this is true.
Read their social responsibility articles on their website, but not immediately after you have eaten.
One theory is that they rely on the IRS approving their software for forms preparation and efiling, and may be trying to keep in the government’s good graces. But that’s just a theory. We live amongst a lot of low-information people.
TaxAct online... They are Great!
I think that the Obama Administration is quietly and deliberately working behind the scenes (through the Treasury Department) to encourage and facilitate these cancellations. This is the third one I've seen this week and it can't be a coincidence.
I used to use Turbotax but I can’t stand Intuits leftism. I now use an accountant from my church. The cost is maybe double Turbotax but well worth it. He, like my Dr and my surgeon are gun owners. And I live in Ct. :-)
clients who ask me will be directed to their competitors. (see also stay away from bank of america)
Husband called them at corporate headquarters. They have recieved several calls and are starting to be concerned. Lets turn up the heat!
Intuit Corporate Headquarters
2632 Marine Way
Mountain View, CA 94043
I’ve always used Tax Cut, which was renamed recently by H & R Block. I like it a lot.
I hope nobody tells me something dreadful about H & R Block now..... :)
“It seems like it might be a good time for the NRA to establish a members credit union to take care of this kind of situation.”
No, the NRA needs to focus on its message and be the voice for their membership. They are doing precisely what they ought to do right now
The damned banks need to honor lawful activity and not bend to tears and shrill demands, after all, lawful gun owner taxes went to bail them out too, so it would seem to me it’s the very least they could do.
That said, it appears there is a tremendous opportunity for some capitalists to fill an unmet need that would also be profitable in providing banking/card services/financing for gun dealers and their millions of customers.
“Intuit Corporate Headquarters
2632 Marine Way
Mountain View, CA 94043
Ping for later call!
That's the point of getting the word out. Let them feel the consequences of their actions. Perhaps it hadn't dawned on them that their customer base includes a lot of gun owners.
I received the following reply to my emailed inquiry:
“Thank you for contacting Intuit.
We continue to process face-to-face transactions of firearms sales through Intuit Merchant Services. Consistent with industry practice, we are unable to process credit card transactions for certain highly regulated online businesses, and end those relationships when we become aware of them.
Intuit | Terry | Office of the President/Privacy |
I made my call this morning.
A young lady finally came on the line. When I described my issue, she immediately redirected my call to a message assuring me that I shouldn't leave a message as the mail box would not be monitored.
I will need to ask my son-in-law to choose a different manufacturer's product.
The banks are taking control.