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TSA does surprise check at Lamar Boulevard Amtrak (Austin , TX )
KXAN ^ | 24 Jan 2013 | Chris Sadeghi

Posted on 01/25/2013 6:17:17 PM PST by george76

Random checks happen at stations across country. Passengers catching the 9:30 a.m. Amtrak train from Austin to Dallas were met with an unexpected surprise when they got to the station.

Transportation Security Administration agents, Austin police officers, and the Department of Homeland Security were all waiting for them.

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Random security checks are voluntary

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The random check takes about 10-15 minutes and happens hundreds of times a day at bus, train, and subway stations across the country.

(Excerpt) Read more at kxan.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: amtrak; counterterrorism; rail; tsa; viper

1 posted on 01/25/2013 6:17:21 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

Voluntary until they become mandatory.


2 posted on 01/25/2013 6:20:38 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: george76
Random security checks are voluntary

Really? What happens if you decline to be "checked"?

3 posted on 01/25/2013 6:21:11 PM PST by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: george76

Just in case muslims plan to hijack a milk run train and drive it into a skyscraper or something .....


4 posted on 01/25/2013 6:22:56 PM PST by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: george76

bump


5 posted on 01/25/2013 6:23:26 PM PST by lowbridge (Joe Biden: "Look, the Taliban per se is not our enemy.")
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To: george76

“The security at airports has increased so the bad guys are now traveling on the trains and buses,” said Robinson. This is bull$hit! Here in California the border patrol checkpoints are almost never open on the 5 and the 91. And I love that the inspections are voluntary, they just left out the for now. So if you decide not to just give up your 4th amendment rights at the bus and train depot as they have been taken from us at airports, do you get tagged for closer government observation down the road? After all Der Fuhrer requires all of his subject to be good submissive sheep!


6 posted on 01/25/2013 6:27:01 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: jtal
What happens if you decline to be "checked"?

Don't know, but I'd speed-dial my lawyer's office, put my phone on speakerphone and drop it in my pocket.

He's good at stuff like that. So are his staff.

And I can do that at the push of a button.

/johnny

7 posted on 01/25/2013 6:32:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Mastador1

Conditioning.


8 posted on 01/25/2013 6:33:47 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: george76

I haven’t taken Amtrak since 1976. Certainly won’t be taking it anytime soon! I prefer to drive. Crank up the music, and sing at the top of my lungs. :-) Can’t do that on Amtrak, with or without TSA!


9 posted on 01/25/2013 6:39:57 PM PST by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: knittnmom

Can’t do that on a plane either. Unless it’s your own plane that is.


10 posted on 01/25/2013 6:42:37 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: silverleaf

Or blow them up like they did in Madrid, Spain back in 2004.


11 posted on 01/25/2013 6:44:25 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: jtal

They probably arent allowed on the train without the “voluntary” check.


12 posted on 01/25/2013 6:48:49 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: driftdiver
Conditioning

Absolutely

It has become a weekly conversation with my nephews and niece............no one can violate your rights.

They tell me what happens at school and I cite why its wrong. I guess for now I will be the crazy uncle and in the end the man they quote.

13 posted on 01/25/2013 6:49:10 PM PST by Kakaze (I want The Republic back !)
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To: george76

Drip... Drip... Drip...


14 posted on 01/25/2013 6:50:12 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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Where are all the folks crying ‘I’m not flying anymore because of TSA...’?

No more train travel without TSA. Then buses. Then checkpoints on highways.


15 posted on 01/25/2013 7:04:24 PM PST by AlmaKing
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To: george76

“The security at airports has increased so the bad guys are now traveling on the trains and buses.”

And any time there is no TSA inspection of buses and trains, a terrorist could fly one into a high rise building!

No. Just no. The TSA airport inspections have demonstrated conclusively that there is no need for airport TSA inspections.

This being blindingly obvious, even to the TSA, the TSA is now desperate to find a reason, *any* reason, so they will not be first up on the chopping block when time comes to get control of the federal budget.

And they should be first up, followed by a whole bunch more of the ridiculously ineffective and intrusive government hyper-security espionage-police ‘apparat’.

Seriously, while we might need all 16 of the major federal intelligence agencies, they need to be looking at other countries, not us. Let the FBI, and just the FBI, look at us. That new spy complex in Utah? Shut that damn thing down. The government has zero reason to keep all emails, phone calls, Internet babble, etc. “just because they can.”

And likewise, the now 100+ federal police agencies, and the non-police agencies authorized to procure their own SWAT teams and tactical weaponry. The Department of Education DOES NOT NEED its own SWAT team, nor do dozens of other agencies. Have them send a requisition to the FBI or the Federal Marshal Service, if they need muscle.

I figure in the first year, roll about 80 of these federal police agencies into the FBI, if the FBI will take them, which is unlikely because FBI agents need to know accounting.

If not, they can work as federal prison guards, guarding all the former TSA agents who are now occupying the prisons because all they know how to do is molest people.


16 posted on 01/25/2013 7:06:33 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: jtal
Really? What happens if you decline to be "checked"?

Speaking from personal experience, you get surrounded and intimidated all the while being told "it's voluntary" without feeling like it's voluntary.

One of their VIPR teams tried "random" security checks at Union Station in Chicago last summer. I wrote a lengthy post about it here on FR.

For my part, I refused, yelled, and drew attention to what was happening until they put some distance between me and them, then I went about my business getting to work.

They're thugs, plain and simple. Government thugs.

17 posted on 01/25/2013 7:11:10 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: george76

TSA stands for TRANSPORTATION Security Agency, not AIRLINE Security Agency.

They will eventually regulate all forms of transportation except walking on public sidewalks. Trains, boats, private cars. All of it.

Thanks GW Bush for pushing us ever closer to Totalitarian oppression. Really appreciate it, man!


18 posted on 01/25/2013 7:21:38 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: usconservative

Good for you. There is no reason to accept their unconstitutional searches.


19 posted on 01/25/2013 7:24:55 PM PST by Girlene
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To: AlmaKing

This is why I have always been furious at the “I just won’t fly” crowd.

It is not about flying. That was just the obvious start following 9/11. This is about controlling all our travel. Just as Obamacare is about controlling all our health dollars and services. Just as “global warming” is about controlling all our energy usage.

Control is the key. The 60s radicals are in charge from the Presidency down to most of your local government boards and your local school boards. Where they are not the outright communists, they are the brainwashed stooges helping them.

Control the schools, control the nation.

I am in abject terror over the totalitarian tyranny that is coming. I keep praying I won’t live to see it, but at 54 years old and as fast as it is coming, I fear I indeed will live to see it installed.

And the kicker is, there is no opposition. There is credible person of renown and authority sounding the alarms bells. Meanwhile, the tea party folks are all preaching to the choir ineffectively and being sold down the river. We need powerful leaders to wake up the sheeple, but there are none. Nobody powerful is sounding the alarm.

Either they are all in on it or the ones on our side are completely incompetent.


20 posted on 01/25/2013 7:29:26 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (Free goodies for all -- Freedom for none.)
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To: george76

people are more readily controlled when they don’t wander very far from where they’re made to live.


21 posted on 01/25/2013 7:40:55 PM PST by 4buttons
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To: Jonty30

What did the Nazi’s say? . . . “show me your papers”.


22 posted on 01/25/2013 8:08:07 PM PST by Mr. Wright (NAACP)
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To: Mr. Wright

What did the Nazi’s say? . . . “show me your papers”.

Exactly what I was thinking. So...you vill show me your papuhs olt mann!


23 posted on 01/25/2013 8:18:47 PM PST by Avid Coug
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To: jtal
What happens if you decline to be "checked"?

Why, that's probable cause!

24 posted on 01/25/2013 8:26:14 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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25 posted on 01/25/2013 8:28:45 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: george76

26 posted on 01/25/2013 8:30:52 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: jtal

I assume they are ‘voluntary’ like filing your income taxes is ‘voluntary’.


27 posted on 01/25/2013 9:33:10 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: DesertRhino

They probably arent allowed on the train without the “voluntary” check.

Not probably allowed. Definitely not allowed.

Check this out from Amtrak’s website:

Amtrak, along with the Amtrak Police Department, has a range of behind-the-scenes and front-line security measures in place to ensure passenger rail security.

Among these security measures, some of which are conducted on an unpredictable or random basis, passengers may notice any of the following in stations or onboard trains:

Uniformed police officers and Special Operations Units
Random passenger and carry-on baggage screening and inspection*
K-9 units
Checked baggage screening
Onboard security checks
Identification checks

*With due respect to passengers’ privacy, the random screening and inspection of passengers and their personal items will be completed as quickly as possible - usually in less than a minute. Passengers failing to consent to security procedures will be denied access to trains and refused carriage, and a refund will be offered.


28 posted on 01/25/2013 9:46:42 PM PST by MplsSteve (General Mills is pro-gay marriage! Boycott their products!)
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To: george76
Random security checks are voluntary

ROFLMBO! 'Voluntary' security checks are about as useful as unscented cologne!

29 posted on 01/26/2013 4:48:18 AM PST by MamaTexan (To follow Original Constitutional Intent, one MUST acknowledge the Right of Secession)
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To: Vince Ferrer
Great. The VIPRs are breeding and spreading out.


30 posted on 01/26/2013 5:45:49 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: george76

All the more reason to drive.


31 posted on 01/26/2013 7:47:42 AM PST by nomad
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To: jtal

” What happens if you decline to be “checked”? “

You go home, rather than to the camps, at this stage.


32 posted on 01/26/2013 8:16:20 AM PST by PAR35
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...Then checkpoints on highways.

sorry to inform ya, but thats already old news...

all those who cheerleaded for 'sobriety' checkpoints, 'seatbelt' checkpoints, 'insurance' checkpoints have helped pave the way for the fed goon squad to bring out the mandatory 'safety' checkpoints, which undoubtedly will be manned by guys in blast/bullet resistant pods backed by heavy machine guns...

aint freedom great ???

seems i read once about a guy named 'fritz' at one of these lil parties on the side of the road...

33 posted on 01/26/2013 8:35:07 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: AlmaKing

I’m sure I read that the plan was to extend it to highways. I’m sure they’ll speed that up now to aid in gun control. Some places are already outlawing smoking in your car (your private property).


34 posted on 01/26/2013 9:51:35 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Gilbo_3

I was telling a liberal co-worker that I still don’t think its government’s business if I personally don’t wear a seat belt. He argues it is because of healthcare. I told him that I should have the freedom to do ill advised things if the only person that would suffer the consequences were me, I never asked him to concern himself with my health.


35 posted on 01/26/2013 10:02:15 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Be careful what you wish for. In 1934 the Treasury Department had to find something for all those “Revenooers” to do after prohibition ended. Since no government agency seems capable of simply firing excess employees, the ATF was created and look what it has morphed into.
If TSA had to be re-assigned, there’s no telling what we’d get. And remember those billions of hollow-point .40 cal? I doubt they’d simply be returned to the manufacturers. No, they’re intended for the taxpayers - one way or another.


36 posted on 01/26/2013 10:12:28 AM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: george76

Coming soon to a highway intersection near you.


37 posted on 01/26/2013 2:38:56 PM PST by Terry Mross
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