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tourist busted for trying to stiff steakhouse 'simply did not want to pay:' Commissioner Kelly
New York Daily News ^

Posted on 01/26/2013 1:00:54 AM PST by SMGFan

A tipsy Italian tourist tried to stiff a tony East Side steakhouse on his tab before his NYPD-assisted arrivederci, police sources said Friday.

Graziano Graziussi, who spend the night in jail after a dispute at Smith & Wollensky, was carrying $118 in his wallet on the night when he challenged the $208 check, said NYPD Commissioner Raymond Kelly.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/italian-tourist-simply-pay-kelly-article-1.1248327#ixzz2J4OOH9wj

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


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Require paying upfront before order prepared? /s
1 posted on 01/26/2013 1:01:48 AM PST by SMGFan
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To: SMGFan

Whats a “tony” steakhouse?


2 posted on 01/26/2013 1:47:26 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: SMGFan

Maybe he thought that since Obama got re-elected, that no one has to pay for anything any more? (The government will pay for everything)


3 posted on 01/26/2013 1:50:00 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (Soon the "invisible hand" will press the economic "reset" button.)
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To: DesertRhino

A restaurant that charges $208 for a steak I guess.


4 posted on 01/26/2013 1:59:03 AM PST by albie
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To: DesertRhino

“Whats a “tony” steakhouse?”
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“tony” is a pretty outdated term for high or upper class.
I have not heard it used in many years.


5 posted on 01/26/2013 2:14:41 AM PST by AlexW
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To: SMGFan

So did the shlub forget his wallet or didn’t he want to pay? The media has made S&W out to be the bad guy in this matter. Another example of the media’s fine reporting standards.


6 posted on 01/26/2013 2:16:36 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: AlexW

“Tony” means if you don’t pay up, a guy named Tony will be out to reason with you.

(I can make that joke; I’m half Italian).


7 posted on 01/26/2013 2:20:02 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: DesertRhino

Tony Soprano’s cousin from Texas.


8 posted on 01/26/2013 2:21:01 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: fatnotlazy
"So did the shlub forget his wallet or didn’t he want to pay? The media has made S&W out to be the bad guy in this matter. Another example of the media’s fine reporting standards."

From this article, it sounds like he had his wallet on him and just didn't want to pay - although the wording could be clearer. If he just tried to stiff the restaurant and lied to the media, as well, I hope he gets booted from the US and denied future entry for his trouble.

9 posted on 01/26/2013 2:34:02 AM PST by Truth29
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To: SMGFan

I don’t care how good the steaks are, they aren’t worth that much.


10 posted on 01/26/2013 2:35:46 AM PST by iowamark
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To: iowamark

Yup, no way a steak n taters dinner is worth that much.

He shoulda went to someplace like Outback or Western Sizzlin.

Ruth’s Criss is great! (perhaps a tad high-priced)


11 posted on 01/26/2013 2:53:55 AM PST by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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To: fatnotlazy
(I can make that joke; I’m half Italian).

Which half?

12 posted on 01/26/2013 2:54:45 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: SMGFan

I simply did not want to pay the one time I went to an Outback Steakhouse because it was such a total rip-off.

Of course I payed and never went back.


13 posted on 01/26/2013 3:01:03 AM PST by Bullish (This usurper is leaving one hell of a poop stain on our Constitution)
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To: iowamark

There were 2 people at the table so about $100 per and much of that is likely wine. Steak houses in NYC median steak is around 30/35 bucks.


14 posted on 01/26/2013 3:02:57 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: SMGFan

The tourist’s response of forgetting his wallet is on the level of a kid saying a dog ate his report card.


15 posted on 01/26/2013 3:15:54 AM PST by driftless2
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To: AlexW

tony= any place that would look askance as the likes of yours truly entered the premises. No riffraff allowed.


16 posted on 01/26/2013 3:18:12 AM PST by driftless2
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To: wiggen
"median steak"

I like my steaks median well...how much do they go for in Manhattan?

17 posted on 01/26/2013 3:21:05 AM PST by driftless2
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To: driftless2

“Tony” steakhouses in NYC won’t cook one above a median, lol. If you insist they”ll butterfly it. Pretty well ruined.


18 posted on 01/26/2013 3:33:27 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: iowamark

If you decide to go to S&W, it’s the *whole experience* you are paying for. Besides the fact that they have the best aged steaks anywhere in the city. Also part of that *experience* is the waitstaff.

This tourist was out of his league. He would have been happier at Patsi’s or Peter Luger.


19 posted on 01/26/2013 3:37:48 AM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: SMGFan

I thought he forgot his wallet, thats what all the other stories say.


20 posted on 01/26/2013 4:04:41 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Daffynition

This tourist was supposedly a regular so he should have known the cost.

He’s a thief.


21 posted on 01/26/2013 4:07:23 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Yes he is. I didn’t see that he was a *regular* in the linked article: http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/italian-tourist-simply-pay-kelly-article-1.1248327

I’m sure it didn’t help that he was drunk. :)


22 posted on 01/26/2013 4:53:13 AM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: driftless2

ha. i typo with the best of them.


23 posted on 01/26/2013 5:10:41 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Bobalu
Yup, no way a steak n taters dinner is worth that much. He shoulda went to someplace like Outback ...
Outback over Smith and Wollensky? Surely you jest.
The Smith and Wollensky menu shows their steaks averaging about $50. Not bad for NYC.
The $208 bill might have been for two people and/or included drinks too.
24 posted on 01/26/2013 5:29:38 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: wiggen
"typo"

I'm totally sympathetic. I made a typo mistake a few weeks ago when writing a response to some thread (typed "two much" instead of "too much") and didn't see the error until I had posted my response. I thought no one would notice or care much. How wrong I was. The next day I received a message from some anal-retentive Freeper who lambasted me for not knowing the difference between two and too. I guess I couldn't put two and too together.

25 posted on 01/26/2013 5:34:05 AM PST by driftless2
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To: RegulatorCountry
I always order my steaks medium well because if they undercook it slightly, I can eat it medium. Ditto for overcooking a bit as I can handle well done. But my wife always orders steaks well done, and a few times the steaks have arrived shoe leather texture. Which made my wife extremely upset.

(incidentally, my wife is like most people who grew up in Britain...most of them order their steaks/meat well done.)

26 posted on 01/26/2013 5:39:25 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Bobalu

$100 per person for a steak dinner and drinks at an upscale place isn’t out of line anywhere in the country. Not here in Des Moines. I’d expect NYC to be twice that.


27 posted on 01/26/2013 5:42:42 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: driftless2

I know the feeling...like it or not there are some freepers whose lives are so miserable that the only thing they have to do is cruise free republic in search of typos so as to demonstrate their intelligence. Actually the only thing they demonstrate is their arrogance and rudeness.


28 posted on 01/26/2013 5:55:18 AM PST by ontap
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To: DesertRhino

Whats a “tony” steakhouse?
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That is one of those ‘if you have to ask’ questions, you probably shouldn’t go in. <:

Like if you are interviewing for a job, probably not a good idea to ask the interviewer “what does an Addadictome Technician do?” if that was in the job description.


29 posted on 01/26/2013 5:56:08 AM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: driftless2
I grew up in a home where any sort of meat was cooked “well done,” and came to appreciate certain cuts prepared mid-rare after leaving home for college. A really good quality steak or filet benefits from being cooked certain ways, none of which involves cooking beyond medium. I'm especially fond of a Pittsburgh mid-rare filet with shallot butter.

On the other hand, rare to the point of being cold in the middle, I just do not understand the appeal of it, the texture is not pleasant and neither is the flavor. I think it's just some sort of fetish, hey look at me I'm such a carnivore, or something. Steak tartare, forget it. Ground chuck needs to be at least medium. Rare hamburger is disgusting.

30 posted on 01/26/2013 5:58:12 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Daffynition

There have been a few other articles on this guy. The story keeps changing.

For me the lesson is - if I plan to consume the products and services of a company I should probably take steps to ensure I can pay for it.

Sure mistakes happen, so does theft.


31 posted on 01/26/2013 6:14:15 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Bobalu

“Yup, no way a steak n taters dinner is worth that much.”

I cook my steaks on my green egg grill but a good steak at a good restaurant will easily run $100/person. Especially with all the fixins.

Heck you can spend $30 just for the steak at Outback.


32 posted on 01/26/2013 6:16:26 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

“On the other hand, rare to the point of being cold in the middle, I just do not understand the appeal of it, ...”

Hence my tagline - I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.


33 posted on 01/26/2013 6:18:14 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Years ago, we took my grandmother out to a steakhouse for dinner on a special occasion. She’d never been to one. The waiter asked her how she’d like her steak, she looked at him like he had three heads, laughed a little and said “done.” English descent, I guess ancestral habits survive for a long time, centuries.


34 posted on 01/26/2013 6:35:47 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: driftless2

guess I couldn’t put two and too together.

Me TO!


35 posted on 01/26/2013 6:48:04 AM PST by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by Obama")
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To: driftless2

There are quite a few restaurants that would refuse to serve your wife a Filet Mignon well-done. It’s a crime, really, to prepare meat of that cut well done, because a Sirloin would be just as good if it’s going to be burned to a crisp. Overcooking fine cuts of steak is pointless.

The Chef often takes it personally. In her younger days, a Chef once banned my wife from his kitchen for a shift because she brought him an order to cook a Filet Mignon well-done.


36 posted on 01/26/2013 6:58:49 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: SMGFan

He shouldn’t have eaten dinner in the Champagne Room.

For a ha-ha, Chris Rock’s ‘There is no sex in the Champagne Room’, Xena version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeHlXlmPzTo


37 posted on 01/26/2013 7:29:02 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: jjotto

I guess paying $8.99 for a 6 oz rib eye steak is down right cheap comparing to the other steakhouses! (I lived with parents who grew up during the Depression)


38 posted on 01/26/2013 7:30:46 AM PST by Buddygirl
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To: DesertRhino
Whats a “tony” steakhouse?

That's Newyorkey for "overpriced."

39 posted on 01/26/2013 7:39:52 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: driftless2

In 1957, I was a busboy(today- P/C busser), in Denver Co. The restaurant was billed as “The Finest Steakhouse West of the Mississippi” Served the likes of Jack Webb- Dragnet, Jayne Mansfield(her’s were real- before enhancements). The cfe would not make a steak over medium. If sent back for MW or well, would throw the meat on the floor, step on it, pick it up, spit on it and say “the pigs want burnt meat, I’ll give it to them”. He about burnt it to death.. Lesson learned- Never sent a meal back, anywhere, in the 57 years, since.


40 posted on 01/26/2013 7:42:15 AM PST by capt B
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To: driftless2

correction-—chef


41 posted on 01/26/2013 7:44:00 AM PST by capt B
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To: fatnotlazy

Very funny!


42 posted on 01/26/2013 8:23:53 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: driftdiver

There’s a long, sordid story I have about a NY restaurant and a wallet.

I was taking my son and his GF to a day in the city. We were eating at the Tribecka Grill and when it came to pay, I noticed my wallet was missing. Between them, the two guests didn’t have a nickel . Neither should they have, b/c they were my guests. I lost $300. in cash and all my credit cards....and ID. Fortunately, the maitre-d’ was understanding, and helped me negotiate a cash advance, with one of my card companies., to pay for the tab and tip, and enough cash to get a cab up uptown to our garaged car. Imagine the embarrassment and concern. We called the NYPD...and their basic attitude was *forget it* . *The wallet is gone, you’ll never see it back.* We even canvassed the trash cans ourselves, up and down the area, in hopes they only took the cash, and dumped the wallet and IDs.

Well, the thieves were pros. They tried my cards in a gas station to learn that they were *good* and proceeded to buy metro passes, concert tickets, yada ‘til the cards were maxed out. The years that followed were a nightmare straightening out my credit and cancelling stuff they ordered in my name.. It was a full 2 years before I felt I free from their shenanigans.

So if this tourist was an *innocent abroad*, I don’t know...but restaurant managers are not heartless, when there is a unusual situation...this is NYC, they’ve seen it all.


43 posted on 01/26/2013 9:12:07 AM PST by Daffynition (The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic, and a killer. It has never yet melted. — D.H.)
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To: chainsaw; driftless2
guess I couldn’t put two and too together.

Me TO!

Et two Brute?

44 posted on 01/26/2013 9:23:54 AM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: Colorado Doug; chainsaw; driftless2

Y’all are tew funny!


45 posted on 01/26/2013 10:14:27 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: DesertRhino
Whats a “tony” steakhouse?

A "Tony" steakhouse is where gumbas like Paul Castellano hang out,as shown below.


46 posted on 01/26/2013 10:15:58 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Red State Secession Is The Only Answer)
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To: driftless2
I always order my steaks medium well because if they undercook it slightly, I can eat it medium. Ditto for overcooking a bit as I can handle well done.

Order the steak the way you want it. If they don't cook it that way, then send it back. After all, you're paying for it.

47 posted on 01/26/2013 10:20:19 AM PST by Poison Pill (Take your silver lining and SHOVE IT!)
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To: Buddygirl
I guess paying $8.99 for a 6 oz rib eye steak is down right cheap comparing to the other steakhouses! (I lived with parents who grew up during the Depression)

My parents were also Depression babies and my Dad,particularly,made it a habit to live well below his means...a lesson that I've adopted in my own life.To me a $10 small steak at Outback,cooked medium-rare,is just fine for me.However I *did*,once,go to Ruth's Chris Steak House and the $30 sirloin I had there was absolutely heavenly.

48 posted on 01/26/2013 10:27:35 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Red State Secession Is The Only Answer)
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To: Poison Pill

Depends on where you are. My wife always orders her steak well done. One time she ordered a steak at an Outback, and it arrived rare. I could see the blood flowing on her plate. She sent it back. It came back shoe leather. She was so distraught, she actually broke out crying. We’ve never had an experience like that again, but like I said, I can eat steak done a variety of ways. It’s not worth sending food back time and again if you’re satisfied with what you have. Kind of like life...which reminds me of a story...but I’ll spare you.


49 posted on 01/26/2013 1:54:25 PM PST by driftless2
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To: Cyber Liberty
"refuse to serve"

Tell that to my wife. Then step back.

50 posted on 01/26/2013 1:57:05 PM PST by driftless2
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