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Ryan says GOP need to pick its fights with Obama
Associated Press ^ | Jan 26, 2013 9:34 AM EST | Ken Thomas

Posted on 01/26/2013 7:39:30 AM PST by Olog-hai

Rep. Paul Ryan says Republicans need to stay united and pick their fights during President Barack Obama’s second term. …

Ryan defends his vote on the “fiscal cliff” deal. He says that if the measure hadn't passed, every single taxpayer would have paid higher taxes. …

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 113th; banglist; bho44; debt; establishmentgop; fiscalcliff; fiscalcliffdeal; paulryan; rino
Sure, “stay united” when it was the RINOs that divided the party.
1 posted on 01/26/2013 7:39:38 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Ryan defends his vote on the “fiscal cliff” deal. He says that if the measure hadn't passed, every single taxpayer would have paid higher taxes.

Every taxpayer IS paying higher taxes, you dumba$$!

2 posted on 01/26/2013 7:43:37 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: Olog-hai
pick their fights during President Barack Obama’s second term

Too late for that.
Tried it in the first term and got rolled every time.
Time to push back on each and every damn thing. Every time!

You don't see a dam holding back a lake by picking and choosing its battles. It defends along the entire front, all the time.
That's what the GOP needs to do now, to prevent the wave of tyrannical government from washing over us all.

3 posted on 01/26/2013 7:45:33 AM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: Olog-hai
"The GOP needs to pick its 'fights'??!!

I'd be happy as a clam if they'd pick a SINGLE fight and fight it like they mean it. My God, we own the house (for now)...act like we own it for once. Quit rolling over.

4 posted on 01/26/2013 7:46:52 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Olog-hai

FIGHT NUMBER ONE:

Gun control.


5 posted on 01/26/2013 7:47:29 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Olog-hai

They need to pick a fight with Obama every day, over every thing that comes along. Of course, that’s called standing and fighting, and that is something the GOP-E will never do, because they agree with the Left.


6 posted on 01/26/2013 7:49:03 AM PST by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Olog-hai

Republicans are like drunks. They take a “shot of courage” now and then, and talk big but in the morning they are right back to their normal pathetic condition of being timid and accomodating.

Perversely, the GOP-e did however take a pretty tough stance against the Tea Party and dissed them at every opportunity. The Dems get more respect than the Tea Party.

Scott Walker is a rare example of political courage. Too bad the rest of the Stupid Party doesn’t make an effort to emulate him.


7 posted on 01/26/2013 7:52:11 AM PST by Starboard
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

As the onld saying goes, if you don’t stand up for something you’ll fall for everything. That’s the Republicans in a nutshell.


8 posted on 01/26/2013 7:54:05 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“FIGHT NUMBER ONE:

Gun control.”

If this one isn’t won, all is lost


9 posted on 01/26/2013 7:59:04 AM PST by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones)
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To: Olog-hai

While I am not happy with Ryans current back seat driving I do not think he divided the party.
To the contrary, I think he was the fellow that got us energized during the last election cycle.

That said, he needs to step it up a notch rather than ratcheting it down.

Take chances Paul, make mistakes, get your damn hands dirty.
Above all, FIGHT!


10 posted on 01/26/2013 8:01:47 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: GenXteacher

that’s called standing and fighting, and that is something the GOP-E will never do
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Re-electing Boner was one of the most politically self-destructive acts in history. It sent a message of weakness and politcal appeasement to a power mad president, his media army, and the liberals in both houses of Congress. He may be a decent person but the man is simply not a courageous or inspirational leader capable of energizing the troops. His treatment of the Tea Party movement and their 2010 electees was despicable.


11 posted on 01/26/2013 8:04:02 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Olog-hai

The deal signed was not terrible, considering a Harry Reid Senate and wacko leftist White House. A lot of the tax rates of the early 2000s are permanently intact, including the 15% capital gains rate.

I do have serious problems with the weakness we constantly create for our side in these arguments. Our leaders do not use the opportunity to advance our ideas, or to damage our opposition. No mention of all the Obamacare taxes that kicked in. No discussion tying our pathetic economic growth to government largess. Our leadership stinks.


12 posted on 01/26/2013 8:04:16 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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To: Olog-hai
need to stay united and pick their fights during President Barack Obama’s second term. …

1) When is the first fight?

2)How come the RINOs always want and expect unity from conservatives, but when conservatives want unity from RINOs we get a scorched earth policy?

Mr. PX90 can bite me.

13 posted on 01/26/2013 8:06:07 AM PST by Poison Pill (Take your silver lining and SHOVE IT!)
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To: Starboard

Excellent point regarding the brief “shot of courage” the pubbies take. Remember when Bush 43 said, “I have some political capital now and I intents to use it”? I cheered... and then we never heard from him again. Beaten and out maneuvered at every turn from then on.

We need to find their WEDGE ISSUES and shove them up their -$&);! Gun control is a good start, but there are plenty. Good strategists can make almost any issue a wedge issue ( like they do to us).


14 posted on 01/26/2013 8:09:24 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Olog-hai
pick their fights during President Barack Obama’s second term...

This very statement demonstrates that the GOP is utterly ignorant, inept, and worthless. A simple examination of everything the jug-eared moron POS has done shows that his intent is to destroy our freedom, punish the successful, and "transform" this country into a socialist toilet. EVERYTHING THIS POS pRESIDENT ATTEMPTS TO DO SHOULD BE FOUGHT, you $hit for brains!

15 posted on 01/26/2013 8:11:18 AM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: mylife

I am not happy with Ryans current back seat driving
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That’s the Republican comfort zone. Sit in the back seat and enjoy the view and just be glad to be going along for the ride. They don’t like being behind the wheel.

When Democrats drive they speed and ignore the signs, lights and traffic rules. They get where they’re going in a hurry. In those rare instances where Republicans are allowed to drive, they shake at the thought of driving over 35 mph. LOL


16 posted on 01/26/2013 8:11:26 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Olog-hai
That's an easy pick: all of the above. Can anyone think of anything Obama has done or proposed that should not have been fought against? Look, the barbarians are pouring through the walls. It isn't going to do any good to pick which hole we're going to plug. The whole horde of them needs to be stopped.
17 posted on 01/26/2013 8:15:12 AM PST by chimera
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To: Dr. Pritchett

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92vV3QGagck


18 posted on 01/26/2013 8:16:58 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Poison Pill

When is the first fight?
*******
Very good question. How dare you ask for specifics? LOL Don’t expect an answer from the GOPe anytime soon — if ever. You may, however, soon hear from the RNC when they want money for 2014.


19 posted on 01/26/2013 8:17:09 AM PST by Starboard
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To: ilgipper

Re: A “permanent” 15% capital gains rate.

Correction: the top cap gains tax rate has been permanently increased to 20% (up from 15%) for single filers with incomes above $400,000 and married couples filing jointly with incomes exceeding $450,000.

With inflation ravaging, just how long do you think it will be before the average $40k salary becomes $400k? Hint: pretty damn quick — 10 years at 26% inflation; 16 years at 15%

Inflation cannot take off, though, until the economy picks up. And with the drag of fedzilla, that isn’t likely to happen.


20 posted on 01/26/2013 8:21:30 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Starboard

So when Obama tells the GOP to “sit in the back seat”, they meekly obey now. Even after they gave him a “shellacking” in 2010.


21 posted on 01/26/2013 8:22:25 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

“Stay united?” After the past two years of the beltway GOP-E leadership doing everything in its damned power to trash and basically kneecap the tea-party, the grassroots, Palin, the Paulbots, the socons, and anyone else that actually DID stand up to Obama and the assault by his media minions? While they themselves grovel, cowtow, and repeatedly fold under the slightest pressure?

The GOP-E can go burn in hell!


22 posted on 01/26/2013 8:22:35 AM PST by greene66
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To: Dr. Pritchett

Rule #1 for the Republicans to remember:

Democrats play to win. They don’t play by the rules and do whatever it takes to advance their agenda. For Dems, the word “compromise” just means do it our way. Bottom line: If you want to win at anything, you have to play harder and smarter than your opponent. Scott Walker is modern day Exhibit #1.


23 posted on 01/26/2013 8:23:48 AM PST by Starboard
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To: greene66

Only the GOP-e can turn a Tea-Party-fueled “shellacking” into a big surrender party.


24 posted on 01/26/2013 8:24:01 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: greene66

Very good post.


25 posted on 01/26/2013 8:28:25 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Olog-hai

How about starting with hussein’s eligibility?


26 posted on 01/26/2013 8:36:10 AM PST by crosshairs (All we are saying, is give a high cap piece a chance.)
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To: Olog-hai

Ryan, when all you can do is lose, you had best fight every chance you get on the off chance thatyou will improve your skills and perhaps even win one.

The GOP ****ing sucks, and little girly men like you are part of the problem.

What you need to understand is that you and your party are about to extinct yourselves.


27 posted on 01/26/2013 8:37:56 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Olog-hai

He is correct. Pure opposition for the sake of being contrary is viewed as petty by most middling voters.

Of course, we don’t have to “fight” to disagree.


28 posted on 01/26/2013 8:44:04 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

So standing up for conservative principles is “pure opposition for the sake of being contrary”?


29 posted on 01/26/2013 8:55:40 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Nah...Rubio, Ryan, and the rest of the GOP are too busy trying to screw the taxPayers by finding a way to give amnesty to a bunch of illegals. Those new entitlements will do wonders for the country!


30 posted on 01/26/2013 9:18:41 AM PST by vmivol00 (I won't be reconstructed.)
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To: Olog-hai

Paul Ryan:
“Ryan says GOP need to pick its fights with Obama”

Mr. Ryan, they seem to be having a lot of trouble making up their minds about which fights to pick — indeed, they have yet to choose one.

Better suggestion:
“The GOP needs to pick its retreats from Obama”.
They have no trouble doing that — they pick every one they see!


31 posted on 01/26/2013 9:44:16 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Starboard

“Scott Walker is a rare example of political courage.”

Absolutely right on that one.

There is no other Republican — NO ONE — who more deserves the party nomination for president in 2016.

Which other Republican — name ANY one — has demonstrated as much courage under pressure and the intestinal fortitude to stand up to the ‘rats and the left, as has Mr. Walker?

Rubio?
Cruz?
Perry?
You’re kidding — right?


32 posted on 01/26/2013 9:48:36 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Olog-hai

After FOUR YEARS of not picking fights, I imagine that the Republican RINOs will just insist that after FOUR MORE YEARS they will be ready to pick fights, especially after they lose the mid-term elections “because we were not inclusive enough”.

I’m starting to think that political OCD and the inability to detect patterns is not limited to just liberal Democrats, to to RINOs as well.

“Don’t worry, as soon as the country is in ruins, bankrupt, with millions starving in the streets, riots, and the constitution utterly trashed, we will start to get together to fight against the liberals. Or at least we will form a pre-committee to consider when to hold the meeting.”


33 posted on 01/26/2013 9:58:13 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: Olog-hai

They sure do not fear to pick fights with conservatives... so convenient a irony he talks about not fighting when he is right now fighting against conservatives and fibbing.

His yeah and nay should be just that, yeah and nay, and not try to explain it or attack others because of them, CYA style.


34 posted on 01/26/2013 10:07:38 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: JudgemAll

That’s the most significant point here. Marginalizing conservatives in what is supposed to be the opposition party is a big move towards an actual one-party government.


35 posted on 01/26/2013 10:14:42 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Starboard

I can’t drive 55

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvV3nn_de2k


36 posted on 01/26/2013 10:23:11 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Olog-hai

The first step in picking a fight is showing up for one and following through, otherwise it’s just more GOP candy ass smack talk.


37 posted on 01/26/2013 10:27:27 AM PST by TADSLOS ( "I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians."-George Mason)
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To: Olog-hai
This tepid imitation of a Conservative is wrong as usual, lately...oScumbo must be fought at every instance he takes a breath.

Our most beloved emperor's entire waking, and sleeping, life is devoted to eliminating the few freedoms and liberties that still remain to us.

38 posted on 01/26/2013 6:31:28 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I actually had not seen that in any summary. If true, now we have a progressive capital gains tax. Terrible precident.


39 posted on 01/29/2013 5:44:14 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)
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