Skip to comments.Should Obama violate the Constitution to protect it?
Posted on 01/26/2013 9:12:19 AM PST by lowbridge
Our government is guided by the U.S. Constitution, the vital document created over 200 years ago that includes founding ideals which protect civil liberties of Americans. With the help of appointed and elected government officials, the United States runs on a set of unchangeable principles and carefully added amendments.
Recently, the debt ceiling debate called into question the Constitution and how the presidents power is demarcated in the original text. The issue lies in whether or not President Obama should bypass Congress and make the executive decision to raise the spending limit.
It is not unprecedented to violate the Constitution deliberately, with good intention. In 1861, Abraham Lincoln used this path when he suspended habeas corpus in an effort to save the country during the civil war. In doing so, President Lincoln was successful in reuniting the government. On Saturday, host Melissa Harris-Perry and her panel discussed when it would be necessary for the Commander-in-Chief to trump the age-old document.
The president needs to get his best legal advice and move forward [without Congress] said Seton Hall University law professor Mark Alexander on Saturdays Melissa Harris-Perry, urging that valuable time is being wasted in Washington debating the debt ceiling issue.
Inside the fevered mind of the “progressive”. God protect us from these people.
” . . . that valuable time is being wasted in Washington . . .”
I think we have a different definition of “valuable”. Would that those clowns in DC were to waste the next four years, and leave the rest of us alone.
Sometimes you have to destroy the village to save it?
That is one of the worst titles of a thread I have ever seen.
Racist and stupid is no way to go through life.
And to think Americans used to chuckle at Pravda.
Not even the pretense of a free press. A state run media that would make any dictator proud.
Not surprised it’s come to this.
Major difference is Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus, an Article I power, because Congress was not in session in April, 1861 and copperheads were burning down railroad bridges in Baltimore to keep Union troops from reaching Washington.
What’s Obama’s emergency?
So, I guess it’s official now. We’re at CWII. According to this author, Ogumbo is Lincoln reborn and must ignore the constitution in order to save the nation....or something...
Getting his full communists dictatorship in force with him as King.
Faiven Feshazion. Know this name. Find this man. He is a clear and present danger to America, and he is no less than a Domestic Enemy of the Constitution.
Faiven Feshazion turns out to be a woman.
The only thing nobama “should” do is resign immediately and turn him self into Leavenworth to find a solitary cell in which to spend the rest of his worthless existence.
That’s a great title...if you’re intention is to plant a whole new crop of propaganda. “Gee whiz. Daddy wants to follow the constitution very badly. But some in congress won’t let him so Daddy will have to fix the boo boo himself. This is what GOOD Daddy’s do.”
If Zero decides to violate the Constitution (some more) to try to subvert the 2nd Amendment, I predict that record numbers of citizens violate his edicts from the get-go instead of waiting for the courts to settle it. And if the courts choose wrong, I would guess that a large number of citizens will take it upon themselves to stop obeying a number of unconstitutional "laws". Perhaps this is the event horizon we need to regain some semblance of what the Founders set up.
Obama has already done enough things against the Constitution and against the law to be impeached.
F&F and Benghazi just to mention two things.
Violate the Constitution deliberately, with good intention.
Only a progressive has logic like that,spin isn’t dead.
I’ve been waiting for the Supreme Court to declare the Constitution Unconstitutional.
GoodLord. When Lincoln took those desperate measures, he at least had the excuse of a savage war that he had to win or else! Obamas only excuse is to provide an executive honey pot he can use to buy votes.
I really like that idea. Lets do it!
I really like that idea. Lets do it!
The sad thing is that neither party is willing to stand up to him.
Let’s just defund and get rid of the the office of the president....to protect it.
I wonder how quickly these leftists would recoil in horror if the same question were asked when Bush was in office.
I don’t think that added violation of our Constitution would be quite enough to trigger a shooting war - yet. It would, however, trigger widespread violations of federal law as it destroyed a significant part of our remaining respect for the rule of law.
The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
Habeus Corpus is a prviledge, not a right
Wow, I’m speechless!
Oh, please tell me this is satire! Lol.......
Please withhold my name because I’m an idiot.
Henhouse meet fox.
If there is no Constitution, there are no laws in this lawless land. Is that something the fools at msnbc are ready to live with?
I wonder if the average citizen even realizes such.
(From Internet sources.)
When a man confined at Fort McHenry sued for a writ of habeas corpus Chief Justice Roger Taney ordered the government to show cause why the man should not be released. The Chief Justice was advised that the writ of habeas corpus had been suspended.The federal government we got now? Yes!
Taney issued an attachment -- law Legal seizure of property or a person. The writ ordering such a seizure -- for the commandant of Fort McHenry but the marshals were denied admission to the fort.
Taney then "issued an opinion in the case declaring that the President alone did not have the authority to suspend the writ of habeas corpus-only Congress could do that-and holding that Merryman's [the man at Ft. McHenry] confinement was illegal. The Chief Justice, knowing that he could not enforce his order, sent a copy of it to Lincoln."
Lincoln was not impressed and other victims -- mayors, police chiefs, journalists, everyone -- soon followed.
Lincoln said about writ of habeas corpus: should everything fail because that one law "made in such extreme tenderness of the citizens' liberty that practically it relieves more of the guilty than of the innocent . . . [cannot] to a very limited extent be violated?" You want "the government itself go to pieces?"
Void the bowels of Washington!
Does ANYONE drug test anymore?
Does ANYONE drug test anymore?
This situation definitely requires at least four impeachments.
That person rself is scareally believes what she wrote. That in itself is scary..
Stupid laptop, lets try it again..
It is scary that the person who wrote that silliness really believes it..
ROTFL. I think the paper has been had.
Obama’s emergency is the ticking clock.
The MSNBC retard assumes the Constitution needs saving. It doesn’t. It is just fine. It’s we the people who need to reign in government. We need saving from a tyrannical government.