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GOP Moves to Scrap Winner-Take-All Voting
Newser ^ | Jan 25, 2013 | Mark Russell

Posted on 01/26/2013 11:45:40 AM PST by Baynative

Republicans in swing states that went for President Obama are pushing for a big change in how the Electoral College works, reports the Washington Post. The idea is to apportion electoral votes according to congressional district, instead of the winner-take-all system that most states employ. In Virginia, for example, the difference would be dramatic—Obama would have taken only four of the state's 13 electoral votes in 2012.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kansas; US: Maine; US: Pennsylvania; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: badidea; elections; electoralcollege; gop; winnertakeall
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To: cripplecreek
yep, time to end the tyranny of wayne county.

CC

41 posted on 01/26/2013 1:00:31 PM PST by Celtic Conservative
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To: RightGeek
The bad news is that it won’t get enacted in a state unless the Republicans control the governor’s office and the legislature.

The good news is that 24 states have 3 branch GOP majorities. (Democrats have 13)
42 posted on 01/26/2013 1:01:27 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SunkenCiv

The concept of the Electoral college is still correct...the problem is too many “I don’t wanna work” gimmee folks.


43 posted on 01/26/2013 1:02:02 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: G Larry
Actually, it’s the WORST thing Republicans could do. It “may” have mattered ONLY in this last election, which is a really bad frame of reference for making this far reaching change.

I disagree. What turns many states into "Blue" states is high Dem voting in major cities (often accompanied with vote fraud). Doing this would mean that the Dems would only get the electoral votes of the big cities' congressional districts, and the rest of the state would likely go R.

44 posted on 01/26/2013 1:04:14 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Allocating the electoral votes by district within a state removes the incentive to cheat in the areas where its common. Democrats, unions, etc will figure out pretty quickly that wasting money on vote fraud is a pure loser.


45 posted on 01/26/2013 1:10:15 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Baynative

I support this notion for Ohio, and any other state that’s interested.
The down side of this approach will the constant attempts a gerrymandering every congressional district every time there is a change in the State leadership roles.
That I can live with, for now. At least it gets my voice back on a level playing field with the libtard Buckeyes who threw the state to Zero and the 0bamunists in November.

Interestingly, I broached the subject to my State Rep and he tells me it’s a Federal issue. I sent it to my Congresscritter and he tells me it’s a State issue.

Gotta luv the buck-passin’


46 posted on 01/26/2013 1:13:41 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2013: Still seeking change.)
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To: re_nortex
I advocate the allocation at the county level:

Absolutly.

Post this out to all sources.

One County, One Vote It's Fair!

Watch the donks squeal!

Actually we should put out a lot of mind-benders aimed directly at the communist agenda donks.

It will keep their sticky little fingers busy on the keyboards and dilute their efforts to communize this Republic..

.

47 posted on 01/26/2013 1:18:15 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Baynative

oh goodie....the repubs are looking more and more like the dims


48 posted on 01/26/2013 1:31:05 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Baynative

And trust me when I say that ANY changes to the electoral college will in fact gut what is left of our republic. The left has been pushing hard for this approach for a long time....hmmm I wonder why....BECAUSE they really want a democracy where the popular vote is all that counts.

Our founders were wise in how they set elections up we ought to honor.


49 posted on 01/26/2013 1:33:21 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

The Republicans can (and should) make this national in the following way:

1. Do this in all the battleground states they control (if they had done this for the 2012 election - FL, IA, MI, OH, PA, VA and WI - they would have elected Mitt). At least, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin (winning Florida, where we came very close, plus a share of those three state, would do the trick; then, nominate Rubio for ‘16).

2. And propose a U.S. Constitutional Amendment to require ALL states to apportion their EVs this way. Enough Democrats would join us, to eliminate the advantage we’d gain by selectively applying the rule.

3. Even clean up a few things:

3a. Eliminate “Electors.”

3b. Have the Congress, in the event that no slate of candidates receives a majority of the EV, elect the slate of candidates in a joint session with each Senator and Representative casting one vote, for one of the two slates receiving the most EVs.

3c. Give DC, as long as what remains of it isn’t retroceded to Maryland, one Congressman, and have its people participate with Maryland in Senate and Presidential elections.

This total package would, right now, give the Republicans a slight advantage, which we would keep IF we keep control of a large majority of the state governments, which is the way it should be.


50 posted on 01/26/2013 1:34:19 PM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Nifster
Our founders were wise in how they set elections up we ought to honor.

So tell me, what system did they set up for the individual states?
51 posted on 01/26/2013 1:36:41 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Baynative

Just for fun assuming nationwide application of this approach for the past election
it would have resulted in the following: Anyone please correct if I made a miscalculation.

Party Divisions — US House, 2013

233 Republicans
200 Democrats
0 Independents
2 Vacancies — democrat
3 Washington DC EC votes — democrat

States Popular Vote X 2 for Senators (100)

26 X 2 = 52 — Democrat
24 X 2 = 48 — Republican

Total — 538 EC Votes

GOP — 281 (233 House, 48 Senator)
DEM — 257 (205 House, 52 Senator)

This would have to have all states using the allocation
method and that isn’t going to happen anytime soon.


52 posted on 01/26/2013 1:39:07 PM PST by deport
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To: Baynative

Reapportioning electoral votes in this way is a much better system. That way, those hardly believable 100% Obama wards and precincts will have no more affect on the rest of the state.

I think we all know that the reason for the voter registration drives is to expand the lists so that the corrupt election workers (such as those wearing Obama hats in polling places or sitting in front of Obama murals in polling places) can mark any leftover ballots for the democrats.

Representation in the assembly that is the Electoral College needs to be brought back into balance to reflect the actual population and their votes.


53 posted on 01/26/2013 1:44:55 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: Baynative

YES!!! I’ve been advocating this for years!


54 posted on 01/26/2013 1:48:19 PM PST by GVnana
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To: Baynative
I really like this idea...

Majority vote winner for the state gets both Electoral votes for the two Senators...the rest of the state split up by congressional districts

One would think Dems would LOVE this idea since they LOVE to gerrymander districts / S

Also since libtards LOVE the idea of the popular vote winner, this is a step closer and actually pretty fair way to give everybody a say so and their vote will count...

This is actually a way to get gerrymandered districts to be broken up by state legislation's to give more "purple" districts that could go either way a much larger say in the end result...

55 posted on 01/26/2013 2:00:34 PM PST by Popman
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To: redgolum
I am thinking of states like Texas.

You only use it in swing states. Not Texas.

56 posted on 01/26/2013 2:02:26 PM PST by kabar
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To: Baynative

Hey, this may be a stupid idea, but how about we let the States decide how they select the electoral colleges they send, and how about the state legislatures select the federal senators?


57 posted on 01/26/2013 2:02:46 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve
and how about the state legislatures select the federal senators?

That's the way our founders actually did set up.
58 posted on 01/26/2013 2:17:13 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Baynative

Idiotic idea that reeks of desperation.


59 posted on 01/26/2013 2:33:52 PM PST by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: Baynative
Ensuring a Republican form of government seems like a good idea. After all we are talking about selecting state electors representing the states and the people and NOT as the left promotes -a mob rule winner take all national election.

I would like to see the same methodology apply to the election of US Senators who as well should represent both the states and the citizens of the states RATHER than the national mob.

60 posted on 01/26/2013 2:44:11 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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