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The Rockefeller Food Cartel
ThisDayLive ^ | 1/23/2013 | Staff

Posted on 01/26/2013 3:02:59 PM PST by PieterCasparzen

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To: PieterCasparzen
Destroying developing countries' food sufficiency became the starting point......luring them into Rockefeller's petrochemical fertilizer and pesticide driven Green Revolution....came the devastation of their local agro-biodiversity thanks to the introduction of crop monoculture, which caused soil leeching and destroyed its vital nutrients; thanks to excessive pesticides, which besides killing off other plant and animal species, air, water, and land pollution, also distressed local farm economies

There's enough bullshit in this statement to fertilize an entire continent. This is the kind of propaganda I expect from Bolshevik wannabes, but it isn't something I'd expect to see people defending on FR. I don't know much about the Rockefeller Foundation, or the work they're doing in the third world that appears, from comments here, to be evil. I do know a little bit about the Green Revolution, however, and this depiction of what happened during those years is right out of the communist playbook. Anyone giving any credibility to these lies doesn't know squat about the Green Revolution, and is uniquely unqualified to be commenting on it. The fact that the statement above is a massive mountain of crap, makes it clear that nothing else in this mindless screed should be taken seriously.

21 posted on 01/26/2013 5:19:33 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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Thanks for that response... wow, that's fascinating. Let me see here...

We have this statement...

I don't know much about the Rockefeller Foundation, or the work they're doing in the third world that appears, from comments here, to be evil.

Which agrees with the RF work in the third world being evil...

but then this statement,

I do know a little bit about the Green Revolution, however, and this depiction of what happened during those years is right out of the communist playbook.

Ok, so then, (thinking out loud, I'm real "slow")... then the "Green Revolution", since you're saying this depiction is right out of the communist playbook, must not be "what the Rockefeller Foundation is doing in the third world".

Ok, I think that's it - is that what you're saying, that

Green Revolution <> RF third world efforts

Because you said these statements make RF third world efforts sound evil, but also that these statements about the Green Revolution are not accurate, or perhaps presented in a misleading way, I presume that means that you think the Green Revolution is not "evil".

This is interesting, IMHO. So is the Green Revolution good or bad from your point of view, or perhaps mixed ? I confess, I had not heard of that term until today, though I was under the understanding that part of globalism was their fixation on "global" food supplies and the globalist firms' role in providing a "global" solution for the "global problem".

I'd like to understand - thanks for being patient with me.

Wait, maybe it's

What the guy said about GR <> GR

Is that your position on this ?
22 posted on 01/26/2013 5:56:15 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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sfl


23 posted on 01/26/2013 6:20:43 PM PST by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: TEXOKIE

This goes back to to 1985-1986 school year when I was a freshman. In our dorm, there was a “common” TV room where a lot of us will go and watch the boob-tube. I remember one foreign student who was from the UK. He was also very anti-American and when the news was on he would get so mad whenever President Reagan’s name was mentioned. Around the time Libya was bombed in response to the bombing of the disco’s in Germany that killed a few American’s. This student would go off on how we are pissing of the terrorists and that we should try to understand them. I got him to go ballistic when I made the comment that the only thing that bullies understand is force and we should stand up to bullies, not try to appease them.

At the time, we had our propaganda board on campus and I posted and it was before Chernobyl happened. I posted a flyer on “Communism is like a cancer that should be treated by radiation”. I remembered this one girl got really furious with me after I posted the flyer. I had a friend with me when this happened and she remarked how great communism was and my friend made a remark that if it was great, how come you cannot buy the most basic staples like food and why toilet paper was so scarce. The girl was from the East Coast like Maryland.

> Summary - foreign students in the 9180’s and their hatred of America & Rockefeller Foundation


24 posted on 01/26/2013 6:34:58 PM PST by CORedneck
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To: PieterCasparzen

Hey, let’s see a show of hands for anyone who remembers the John Birch Society, you know, the conservative movement whose boots the Tea Party has stepped into. The JBS railed constantly against the Rockefeller wing of the GOP and the “liberal eastern establishment” of America’s aristocracy. Do your homework, read Carrol Quiqley’s history “Tragedy and Hope”. As far as food growing, storing and shipping, grab your Standard and Poor’s and look up:

Bunge
Cargill
Nestles
Dreyfuss
Continental

These peckerwoods control 80% of all food processing, storage and shipment on the planet.

Conservatives had damned well begin to learn the difference between CAPITALIST and MONOPOLIST, yah monopolist, the guys who gave us fascism and who are more globalist than any Marxist could make a birthday cake wish for. Ignorance is no excuse. The victors are smarter, every time, period.


25 posted on 01/26/2013 6:54:51 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: Yollopoliuhqui; PieterCasparzen

Good points.

As long as Republicans kiss the collective butts of globailist corporatists, it’s doomed.

And anyone who doesn’t know that the Rockefeller Foundation promotes lefitst and thus evil causes hasn’t been paying attention.


26 posted on 01/26/2013 7:32:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Thanks for that response... wow, that's fascinating. Let me see here...

Even when you're being daft intentionally, you're still a fool.

Which agrees with the RF work in the third world being evil...

Maybe that's true in the fever swamp in which you live, but I assure you that I don't give any credibility to the many tin foil comments on this thread. Although it's true that I do not follow the current actions of the Rockefeller Foundation in the third world, please be assured that I understand, very well, the role they played in the Green Revolution two generations ago.

Ok, so then, (thinking out loud, I'm real "slow")... then the "Green Revolution", since you're saying this depiction is right out of the communist playbook, must not be "what the Rockefeller Foundation is doing in the third world".

Huh? The Green Revolution began more than 60 years ago. Since you've obviously been spared from the ravages of critical thinking, I'm going to write this very slowly for you.....I do not follow the current actions of the Rockefeller Foundation in the third world, please be assured that I understand, very well, the role they played in the Green Revolution two generations ago.

The depiction of the Green Revolution that I quoted from your lame article is the worst kind of Bolshevik propaganda that is targeted at people who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. These lies were created for people who could never be bothered to learn anything about the subject, but will believe any kind of crap that comes their way if it fits with their fixed mentality and depraved ideology. This kind of excrement is popular with folks who wrap the tin foil so tightly around their head that is stops the oxygen flow to their brain.

This is interesting, IMHO. So is the Green Revolution good or bad from your point of view.....I presume that means that you think the Green Revolution is not "evil".

You moron. You're here spouting off nonsense about something you know absolutely nothing about. If you knew the first thing about the Green Revolution, you wouldn't have embarrassed yourself by posting this tripe in the first place. But here you are trying to pass this crap off as something legit, when all it does is call into question your intelligence and your alleged conservative pedigree.

I was under the understanding that part of globalism was their fixation on "global" food supplies and the globalist firms' role in providing a "global" solution for the "global problem".

You provide an excellent example of everything that is wrong with the system of government education in this country today. You're so caught up in your tin foil craziness that you never bothered to learn anything about what it is you fear. Thanks to people like you, the public thinks scum like Rachel Carson are heroes, because they stood up to the toxic terrorists who were promoting the excessive use of pesticides, which besides killing off other plant and animal species, air, water, and land pollution, also distressed local farm economies; while robbing all the soil of its nutrients. These same people have never heard of Norman Borlaug who saved possibly a billion people, mostly children, from starvation by using support from the Rockefeller Foundation to create crops that would grow under near impossible conditions, and that required less land, less tilling, less pesticide, less herbicide, less fertilizer, and less water. Borlaug also led the charge against tin pot dictators who like to use food to keep the people compliant, and would starve them if they ever got uppity.

Rockefeller wanted to be a part of teaching people how to feed themselves because Communism was a very real threat in the third world, and food was the tool used by these wannabe totalitarians to gain and solidify their power. Rockefeller, in helping stem the rising tide of Communism, was also protecting his investments in these countries. Go figure, a capitalist wanting to protect his investments and wealth from a collectivist hoard of bloodsucking murderers. Rockefeller's support of the Green Revolution not only protected American investments and helped forestall the spread of Communism, it fed hundreds of millions who would have otherwise died from starvation.And know-nothing twits like you have the nerve to post your empty headed criticism here, on a conservative forum! The Communists hated the Green Revolution because it removed from them their ability to use food as a mechanism for control. You seem to have a problem with anticommunists and those who prevent starvation.

What's next for you? Will you post something from CPUSA about globalism and then try and pass it off as wanting serious discussion on an important topic? Why not share something with us from Democracy Now!? I'm sure you can find all sorts of tripe there damning capitalism for, gasp!, practicing capitalism. The article you posted here is unmitigated crap that should never see the light of day. That you posted it says a lot about who and what you are. You should be ashamed and embarrassed by this, but you're not. You're still trying to pass it off as something serious. It isn't. The way the author views the Green Revolution makes everything he writes nothing but lies - Communist lies. Sounds like you need more and better tin foil.

27 posted on 01/26/2013 8:40:28 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Yollopoliuhqui
Bunge
Cargill
Nestles
Dreyfuss
Continental

These peckerwoods control 80% of all food processing, storage and shipment on the planet.

80%? Really?

You missed Unilever, Kraft, General Mills, Archer Daniels Midland, Dole, Tyson, Danone, Kellogg, Con Agra, Grupo Bimbo, JBS, Smithfield and hundreds more. This list doesn't even include any of the big Asian food processors.

This is the kind of hyperventilating nonsense that makes the tin foil crowd so entertaining.

28 posted on 01/26/2013 9:01:21 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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Rockefeller wanted to be a part of teaching people how to feed themselves because Communism was a very real threat in the third world, and food was the tool used by these wannabe totalitarians to gain and solidify their power. Rockefeller, in helping stem the rising tide of Communism, was also protecting his investments in these countries.

Apparently Wall Streeters helped finance the Bolsheviks (including Chase National Bank). Big capital in the U.S. has apparently never been averse to dealing with communists. Ford Built a plant in Russia in 1932.

This is the stuff I find hard to square: why would capitalists not simply starve out a communist government if they were anti-communist ? Or use their influence to Stop communists from coming to power ? Also - in terms of "protecting investments" in the third world so "communists" don't take over and "take" the investments - I'm amazed that big American capital was investing in Soviet Russia. How afraid can big capital be of communism if it finances it and invests in the USSR ?

I'm working my way through finding some kind of decently reliable evidence for such crazy talk. One capitalist expressed a positive feeling about the Bolsheviks: Jacob Schiff was head of the New York investment firm Kuhn, Loeb and Co., I'm sitting here looking at a New York Times article where he and President Wilson express their well wishes at the success of the Bolshevik revolution.

I don't think a communist NY Times put up fakes of old articles on their website.

I'm simply unable to understand why a "businessman" would invest in a communist country. I know I wouldn't. There are probably a lot of small business owners who would not.
29 posted on 01/26/2013 11:06:01 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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I wonder, is this why we’re burning food in our cars?

I recall an article posted here a few years ago, which quoted some fellow from some African country saying something like:

“Stop sending us your charity. Stop giving us free clothes and free food.

We need to develop an economy in which our clothes-makers and our farmers (for instance) can do business with one another. But when you keep giving this stuff away, it puts us all out of business. None of us can compete with ‘free stuff’.”

So...The farmers (for one) in poor countries can’t make a living by farming, and the country becomes dependent on the West for their food. Maybe one of Soros’ Big Ag conglomerates buys up their farmland, and hires the locals to grow sugarcane at near-slave wages, and then gets the taxpayer-funded ethanol subsidies to-boot.

(Just thinking out loud here. Tinfoil hat? Maybe. But if I wanted to subjugate people, this is one way I’d go about it...because it would work.)


30 posted on 01/27/2013 6:53:15 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: CORedneck

You must have had some similar experiences as I did! I was acquainted with a bunch of middle eastern types during the Iran Hostage crisis. I certainly got an earful. I was sad later that I had such a diminished understanding of how to reach them and explain the deeper truth behind the situation, but I’ve been learning about it now all these years. I do wish my friends well and hope that they have been able to adjust their disdain.

One fellow I was acquainted with actually was from Afghanistan, and I heard a report that after he went home, he actually was killed in fighting. Again...back in early to mid 80’s, they were fighting the Russians at that time..

I do ask God to enlighten any and all souls from that part of the world, and to bring them into proximity of the Truth that each one needs to learn....whatever that might be.

It was very strange interacting with some of these people. You could go along quite nicely and then all of a sudden you could get a very irrational (in our culture) reaction. An American girlfriend of an engineering student (quite brilliant) COMPLETELY misunderstood the hostess/friendly persona which she put on to entertain her boyfriend’ friends. She was a musician and entertained them and did her best to make the gathering pleasant. Unfortunately, that friendliness was misunderstood as being somehow inappropriate. He accused her of being basically loose. Instead of seeing it as his partner takeing care of and impressing his friends on his behalf, he got all jealous and angry, when she had not done anything that in our culture would remotely be interpreted as such. They had quite a row about it until they had examined the cultural habits and made adjustments. But it was weird.....going along just fine (you think) and then you are in swiss cheese. Lots of holes in logic and communication. I often wonder what became of them. I do hope they are all OK and dont still hate us so terribly, because I certainly don’t hate them!


31 posted on 01/27/2013 11:15:12 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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